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[+McKay]

techguy77, on 12 April 2012 - 15:03, said:

Windows 95 UI was step forward from Windows 3.1 UI. Windows 8 UI is step backwards from what we have now. Mouse is more efficient tool than any gesture because nothing beats mouse in term of being precise especially in higher resolutions.

But at the time there were people saying it was a step back, when 3.1 launched, people said it was a step back from DOS. People say Windows 7 is a stepback from XP. Notice a pattern here?

[virtorio]

Dot Matrix, on 12 April 2012 - 15:52, said:

Uh, no. But just put it this way, in the movies and TV shows set in the future, do you still see users throwing a mouse around their screens? Think about the computers seen in "Minority Effect", "Avatar", and the LCARS interface seen in "Star Trek". Any mice there? We're not going to get there mindlessly clinging onto the mouse. So, yes, it does limit innovation.

Wow, really, movies? Software and hardware shown in movies has no basis in reality.

But seeing you brought it up, I don't see anyone doing any actual work (like I mentioned) in movies. Not just because that would be boring, but also because it would be impossible.

[+Vice]

Callum, on 12 April 2012 - 01:53, said:

Of course I want an actual computer I just realise that there is no need to have many apps open on the screen at any one time, and I'm also well aware from experience that such a way of working becomes cumbersome and messy, yet because the option is there, I naturally allow myself to follow that cumbersome way of working. The Desktop mode is just too cumbersome and annoying to use all round. It isn't hard to use, the user experience is just annoying, compared to what the Windows 8 Metro experience offers.

The way I use my PC I want to be able to run many apps at once. I wouldn't have purchased three 30" displays if I didn't want many many apps open at once and visible. Metro dumbs everything down because they want to appeal to people that don't know how to use a computer. That isn't me and that is why I reject everything that Metro represents. It isn't better, it's basic.

[Dot Matrix]

virtorio, on 12 April 2012 - 16:02, said:

Wow, really, movies? Software and hardware shown in movies has no basis in reality.

But seeing you brought it up, I don't see anyone doing any actual work (like I mentioned) in movies. Not just because that would be boring, but also because it would be impossible.

HA! Where do you think the inspiration came from for all the tech devices you own today? And nothing is impossible. Nothing. These movies will continue to inspire computer designers. So, yes, it is a valid point.

[virtorio]

Dot Matrix, on 12 April 2012 - 16:07, said:

HA! Where do you think the inspiration came from for all the tech devices you own today? And nothing is impossible. Nothing. These movies will continue to inspire computer designers. So, yes, it is a valid point.

So how does your "valid" point link back to today and Windows 8 and users still doing work that requires the use of a mouse?

[Dot Matrix]

virtorio, on 12 April 2012 - 16:26, said:

So how does your "valid" point link back to today and Windows 8 and users still doing work that requires the use of a mouse?

What I'm trying to say is, the mouse is slowly going away. With the introduction of mainstream touch and motion sense, people are going to be using the mouse less and less as Microsoft, Apple, and maybe even Google find a way to integrate these technologies into their operating systems. Microsoft is the first to do so on the desktop. Apple is bound to keep away for a few years as they play into the fears of Windows users like they always do, but they too will follow, I could almost guarantee for OSXI. But once Apple does it, like the lemmings they are, people will "love" it.

[+devHead]

JaredFrost, on 12 April 2012 - 06:08, said:

You would think so, but he wasn't.

Yeah, I realized afterwards it was a post by Callum!!

[+devHead]

Callum, on 12 April 2012 - 09:02, said:

I purposely wrote it in a way that would sound sarcastic, haha, but I was actually being serious. There are very good reasons as to why I think the Metro experience's limitations are beneficial to all computer users. As I mention, I believe the current way everyone multitasks with Windows is flawed, and I think the restrictions the Metro experience provide will lead to everyone multitasking in a more efficient manner, helping their productivity while simultaneously improving their overall user experience.

Callum, bro, you're a good guy I'm sure. However, you know what I think?

I think you've lost your mind.

[fixxxer2013]

V23, on 12 April 2012 - 01:09, said:

Looks ugly and over-complicated in my opinion.

but metro is soo MUCH better right, right?

[+Chris123NT]

devHead, on 12 April 2012 - 16:38, said:

Callum, bro, you're a good guy I'm sure. However, you know what I think?

I think you've lost your mind.

LOL

[virtorio]

Dot Matrix, on 12 April 2012 - 16:34, said:

What I'm trying to say is, the mouse is slowly going away. With the introduction of mainstream touch and motion sense, people are going to be using the mouse less and less as Microsoft, Apple, and maybe even Google find a way to integrate these technologies into their operating systems. Microsoft is the first to do so on the desktop. Apple is bound to keep away for a few years as they play into the fears of Windows users like they always do, but they too will follow, I could almost guarantee for OSXI. But once Apple does it, like the lemmings they are, people will "love" it.

Right, so when people like something Apple does they're lemmings. I think we're done here.

[Dot Matrix]

virtorio, on 12 April 2012 - 17:28, said:

Right, so when people like something Apple does they're lemmings. I think we're done here.

Apple is the industry's darling. If Metro was Apple's idea, people would be going ape **** nuts over it.

[fixxxer2013]

Dot Matrix, on 12 April 2012 - 17:41, said:

. If Metro was Apple's idea, people would be going ape **** nuts over it.

i don't think so.

[virtorio]

Dot Matrix, on 12 April 2012 - 17:41, said:

Apple is the industry's darling. If Metro was Apple's idea, people would be going ape **** nuts over it.

People hated Launchpad in Lion, Apple TV isn't all that popular, plenty of Mac users hate the Magic Mouse.

On the flip side, OSX has had multilaunch gestures for a while, and Lion introduced full screen apps and an excellent task switching paradigm (though Mission Control - that is somewhat analogous to some of the task switching methods in Metro, but is considerably more useful) and they didn't need to introduce a whole new platform to do it.

Sometimes people like what Apple do not because they're fanboys, but because they've actually done a good job.

[V23]

smooth3006, on 12 April 2012 - 16:52, said:

but metro is soo MUCH better right, right?

Yes.