firey, on 09 July 2012 - 02:47, said:
Didn't say it didn't, all I said was it's easy to close apps in Windows 7, windows 8 doesn't make closing apps easier.
It doesn't make it any harder to close apps, either.
firey, on 09 July 2012 - 02:47, said:
The small rectangle is nice, because it doesn't distract me from anything, I mean I can have it up, and not even be looking at it while launching an app, it doesn't take away ANYTHING from my view on the desktop. 0 broken focus. Shows more information? Such as... Weather? There's a gadget, Mail? There's a gadget, CPU Usage? There's a gadget. Guess what? They are all gadgets that go on the desktop and can be viewed at any time without having to switch to another screen. Really? I don't like Windows 8, or see faults so I instantly hate change? That's funny brah.
So, while you are using the start menu (for 2 seconds) you're actually paying attention to something else? No, I don't buy this argument. When I use the start menu/screen I'm launching a program which means I'm typing or mousing in the start menu/screen, not looking at something else. Yes, actually, it does show more information. Not only does it show those tiles like you stated, but since it takes up the whole screen, more apps and search results are shown at once. Why have this huge screen and only use a tiny portion of it to do what you're currently doing? Pressing the start button (or clicking in the bottom left) brings it up, and pressing the start button again makes it go away. Yes, you just hate change.
firey, on 09 July 2012 - 02:47, said:
Not saying Windows 8 doesn't have nice features, but in adding nice things I feel they took away some really nice things too. Honestly though how many people stare at Task Manager, 99% of people open TM to see Memory usage, CPU Usage, or to kill programs that froze.. .all of which is easy to do on <=W7
And it's even easier to do on W8. You haven't actually stated any useful features which were removed. Just things you've gotten used to doing one way that you'll have to do a slightly different way and you can learn how to do in a minute.
firey, on 09 July 2012 - 02:47, said:
Or so you assume, your assumption is that someone who doesn't like something is talking out of their ass, have no clue why they don't like it, hate change for the sake of hating it. Which sorry to burst you bubble isn't true. There are plenty of people who feel the same as me, and have their own reasons for disliking it. If you are too blind to see that people have valid feelings about something, then that's on you, but don't make assumptions and group people together just because you can't understand why they don't like something you do.
Please state some actual reasons that it is worse than Windows 7. The start menu using a small portion of the screen is not in any way inherently better than using the whole screen. People always say it's better to take a small portion because they can still see the rest, but that's not valid because no one is actually paying attention to the rest for the whole two seconds that it is usually up. And when you're using it to search or launch a program by clicking, it shows MUCH MORE things at once.
trag3dy, on 09 July 2012 - 02:50, said:
In summation - if you dislike metro because you don't want to some tacky full screen start thing and have no interest in the ever trendy app store you hate Windows 8. Despite the fact that excluding metro, there is actually a lot of nice changes in Windows 8 that most people on neowin that are "haters" actually want.
I don't see why it's to much to ask that MS give us an option to have a start menu like it is now. You can use metro, I can use my start menu. Everyone is happy.
Microsoft implemented changes correctly in Windows 7 with the super bar. If you didn't like it you could make the start bar like Vista, or 95, or 2000, etc. How they are forcing (if you want windows 8) the metro start screen onto everyone is a night and day difference compared to how they made changes in Windows 7. It amazes me that people are so against having options.
I'm 100% certain that if they did that the majority of the criticism against Windows 8 would disappear nearly instantly.
This is such a STUPID thing to be mad over. The start screen is better than the start menu. It shows more items at once AND is immensely better for touch screens for computers with them. This doesn't mean it's only better on touch screens, but also for non-touch computers. I have a 30" 2560x1600 monitor on my desktop. The start screen shows a TON of items at once, and they're all very large. This means I can very easily mouse over to them and click without having to be precise or scrolling a lot.
It's no worse than the start menu on my desktop and in my opinion even better since it shows more items and has tiles which replace desktop gadgets.
The only people mad at the change are a minority of people online. Everyone who I've showed it to has liked it. All the "reaction" videos of people hating Windows 8 are the ones who were told about it in a negative fashion before being given it to use or weren't told at all how to use it (hot corners). These aren't realistic scenarios.
trek, on 09 July 2012 - 02:52, said:
If there was a GPO that would revert to the normal start menu I think MS would avoid a ton of this resistance. But they are choosing to be stuck up and force it upon the user base. Too bad they forget that they aren't Apple.
The user base won't mind and the ones with touch screens will thank them for it.
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