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#166 MorganX

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 19:54

lol no doubt!
But really the UI in OSX is mostly unchanged since 10.0 and there really isn't any reason to change something that works just fine for most people, apple came out with dashboard and still didn't try to force it on anyone, unlike metro.


The Metro UI is primarily for Tablets and touchscreens. I don't even think that's debatable. There's plenty more for developers but they're slow to utilize it and show it's value to buyers. it is early, Microsoft clearly wanted to get 8 out the door ASAP and on tablet devices ASAP. Shortcomings be damned. Sort of like they did with the Xbox 360 which resulted in the RRoD fiasco. This won't be that bad ...

But as I said, the desktop is used more than the command line, and even that has not and will not go away. In fact, for pros, it's more powerful than ever and there are many things you wouldn't want to do anywhere else. One word: Powershell. The desktop and MDI isn't going anywhere. There's a reason GUIs and MDI took over and have never left since Xerox Parc. That won't change with the tablet form factor. Microsoft is going for the professional tablet market, if they were going for the consumer market with RT, they lost before they started due to lack of software and middleware. You still can't sync WP8 or Surface RT with a desktop running Windows 8. They're all over the place. They're too big.

You think needing a scroll bar for basic UI inputs = productivity... seriously?


I have to agree with you here. The app looks fantastic but operates horrendously. I uninstalled it. I spent more time trying to navigate and get to what I wanted than actually consuming content. What a waste, but great looks.


#167 +warwagon

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 20:04

Lets all keep in mind that Dot Matrix also thinks "Windows 8 should have eliminated the legacy right click menu."

http://www.neowin.ne...nu/page__st__90

#168 Duck!

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 20:05

At first I hated it, I had only tried it in the virtual machine and had no idea how to close apps or how to shut windows down but after reading about how to use the metro side of windows 8 it became more useful. I installed it as my main operating system to force myself to adapt to it and now I think its great. My start screen is customized with my frequently used programs and all my games. I've also got myself a touch mouse so I can take advantage of some of the gestures in windows 8. I don't think I could go back to Windows 7 now.

#169 MorganX

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 20:14

Lets all keep in mind that Dot Matrix is the same guy who created a thread about how "Windows 8 should have eliminated the legacy right click menu."

http://www.neowin.ne...nu/page__st__90


The Modern UI does eliminate it. And that's one of the worst things about the Modern UI IMO, at least on a desktop computer. OK, lets meet halfway and call it a workstation (back to the future).

In place context sensitive menus are one of the most productive features of any GUI with mouse control. In fact, for years it kept Windows more productive than Mac OS when Mac OS was probably more polished and optimized. Microsoft did a great job of standardizing on it. It became a Mac OS weakness, IMO, because they never standardized the implementation due to stubbornly sticking to a single mouse button. To this day they are not really universally standardized.

The loss of this functionality in the Modern UI will always make it inferior to the Desktop Environment, and the current Mac OS. Having to travel to the top or bottom of the screen which could be large, for an in-place action is just stupid. Real stupid. But that's not what tablet computing is for is it? And Modern UI in its current state, isn't for workstations. Nobody today actually does meaningful work in the Modern UI environment, and it's not meant for that at this time. It's meant for consumption, not creation or productivity IMO. Not yet. The notion that the Desktop Environment and Modern UI could meet somewhere in the middle is interesting, maybe tantalizing even, but to suggest we're there yet is just a dream.

At first I hated it, I had only tried it in the virtual machine and had no idea how to close apps or how to shut windows down but after reading about how to use the metro side of windows 8 it became more useful. I installed it as my main operating system to force myself to adapt to it and now I think its great. My start screen is customized with my frequently used programs and all my games. I've also got myself a touch mouse so I can take advantage of some of the gestures in windows 8. I don't think I could go back to Windows 7 now.


I could not go back because of the performance of the Desktop Environment, and with Start8, it's better at what 7 does than 7 without exception. I don't do much in the Modern UI, with Start8 including Modern UI apps in the Start Menu, I haven't seen the Start Page in long time. Except rebooting (by choice). And since I haven't seen it, I think I'll use Start8 to start booting to the desktop.

#170 nekrosoft13

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 23:54

my initial reaction has not changed, it was designed by idiots that play and wave their finger around all day, it simply doesn't belong in productive enviroment.



Windows 8 should have never happened, its a ugly frankenstein of OS, mixing two types of OS together simply doesn't work.

If MS wanted to expand into phone/tablet business they chould have made OS for phone and tablet and leave windows like it way.

#171 Order_66

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 23:58

my initial reaction is same as before, it was designed by idiots that play and wave their finger around all day, it simply doesn't belong in productive enviroment.



Windows 8 should have never happened, its a ugly frankenstein of OS, mixing two types of OS together simply doesn't work.

If MS wanted to expand into phone/tablet business they chould have made OS for phone and tablet and leave windows like it way.


^This 100%.

#172 cron-x-

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 14:28

i still thinking that it is not an upgrade for win7, i think about windows 8 as an downgrade... getting back to primitive
anyway, there is a program named start8 and some other like this one that allow you to get back the start button. But making it non retro-compatible (i am not sure if I wrote it right but in spanish goes like that) is a bad idea. that type of problems make me not want to get it yet

I am from Puerto Rico and i am use to write in spanish, so sorry for my bad english

i still thinking that it is not an upgrade for win7, i think about windows 8 as an downgrade... getting back to primitive
anyway, there is a program named start8 and some other like this one that allow you to get back the start button. But making it non retro-compatible (i am not sure if I wrote it right but in spanish goes like that) is a bad idea. that type of problems make me not want to get it yet

I am from Puerto Rico and i am use to write in spanish, so sorry for my bad english

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 18:19

When I first saw it my reaction was quite literally "what the f*** is this crap"

I do use it and have kind of gotten used to it but it STILL feels more clunky than Windows 7, and this is after well over a year of using it.

#174 COKid

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 18:21

It's built for touch. I already have an Android tablet for touch. I went back to Windows 7 on my lappy.

End of story.

#175 syobon999

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 21:39

It's built for touch. I already have an Android tablet for touch. I went back to Windows 7 on my lappy.

End of story.


if wasn't for substantial improved battery life, i would be back to 7 too.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 22:07

People really need to get this straight.... if Windows 8 was a touch only OS then why can't I hold all these icons???

#177 Rickkins

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 16:38

People really need to get this straight.... if Windows 8 was a touch only OS then why can't I hold all these icons???


Huh..??

#178 BeerFan

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:27

Huh..??

Oh come on. Where's your sense of cat humor?

I'd be back to Win 7 in a flash if it weren't for the integration of Hyper-V, the Remote Desktop app (allows multiple concurrent sessions), and better startup, sleep, and wake from sleep times. All of the UI "enhancements" can be BURNED WITH FIRE from my perspective. But I've agreed to accept the substantial bad with the good.

My initial reaction? Something like this: "Yuck. Ugh. Nooooo!!!!111!!! WTF were they thinking?"

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:23

I have been messing around with the trial of Win8 for the past week or so. Just spending a lot of time fooling around and getting used to it. One thing that is annoying is that when you browse apps, the screen doesnt scroll when you move the mouse to the edge of the screen. However, the screen does scroll in the All Apps list.

Is this just me? Or Win8?