"Looking for Windows 7 computers? "

By DavidM
in Microsoft (Windows)

 Share

Recommended Posts

Veteran

DavidM

Posted
Posted

Has anyone else seen the Computer Renaissance tv commercial airing in Tucson and maybe else where? They go through their ad then at the end add something like.. "looking for Windows 7 computers? We have them" or something real similar, I only saw it once and can't find it online.

Is the Windows 8 hate spilling out into the main stream? I know some here have voiced their displeasure (myself included... stupid fonts) but, I kind of always assumed it was just the power users that didn't like it. Us "tech forum" people seem to be quite vocal against Windows 8, although some might say we have to scream over the Windows 8 cheering section... you know who you are!

No, I am NOT trying to start ANOTHER Windows 8 bash thread, I'm just wondering about the perception that commercial seems to imply? Is Windows 8 getting Vista levels of hate? I never had a problem with Vista, not one, but Windows 7 was so much nice so I switched.

So, the question is - Is Windows 8 getting the same hate Vista did in the "average user" segment?

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1140048-looking-for-windows-7-computers/
Share on other sites
Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

Is the Windows 8 hate spilling out into the main stream?

Yes it is. It's been in the main stream shortly after the first regular people got to use it.

The consumer hate for Windows 8 far exceeds that of Vista. I lived through the Vista release with consumers and while there was hate, Windows 8 hate is at a completely different level.

Now i'm not saying ALL consumers hate Windows 8, some actually like it, they just aren't the norm.

Rising Star

tim_s

Posted
Posted

Yes it has reached mainstream but,

<opinion>

In the mainstream there isn't much of an option - I just do not see any other company being able to 100% fill the void of Microsoft for business computing.

</opinion>

I have a Windows 8 box at work to test our software and to be frank, since all the main tools are not supported by Metro; Outside of the main click out of Metro - I really do not see much of a difference.

Veteran

DavidM

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Yes it is. It's been in the main stream shortly after the first regular people got to use it.

The consumer hate for Windows 8 far exceeds that of Vista. I lived through the Vista release with consumers and while there was hate, Windows 8 hate is at a completely different level.

Now i'm not saying ALL consumers hate Windows 8, some actually like it, they just aren't the norm.

I've never heard anything from my family or friends, good or bad, which was kinda why the Windows 7 bit at the end made me wonder.

Yes it has reached mainstream but,

<opinion>

In the mainstream there isn't much of an option - I just do not see any other company being able to 100% fill the void of Microsoft for business computing.

</opinion>

I have a Windows 8 box at work to test our software and to be frank, since all the main tools are not supported by Metro; Outside of the main click out of Metro - I really do not see much of a difference.

The biggest option is to stay with Windows 7, and the only real difference on the desktop is it so f'ning ugly. That and my biggest gripe is the removal of most of the customization... the frickin' fonts man.

If anything, i'd say the hate is higher this time around. And that's partly Microsoft's fault. Why? Because Windows 7 is "that good".

So you think it's just that W7 is so good, that W8 is getting hated?

Grand Master

Praetor

Posted
Posted

Dude, most of the people i know that was bad mouthing Vista when it came out never used it; the case with Win8 is different: most of the people i know love it and aren't bad mouthing the OS (one of my clients had deployed Win8 in ALL their machines).

Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

Dude, most of the people i know that was bad mouthing Vista when it came out never used it; the case with Win8 is different: most of the people i know love it and aren't bad mouthing the OS (one of my clients had deployed Win8 in ALL their machines).

How many is ALL?

Grand Master

Ian W

Posted
Posted

DavidM, perhaps you could try emailing them for the commercial if you haven't already? Required information for the contact form includes: First name, Last name, E-Mail address, Phone number, and ZIP code.

http://compren.com/contact.php

In addition, they also have a phone number if you'd prefer to call them instead... 1888-COMPREN

Edit: Wow, that was dumb of me... I guess you aren't really looking for the commercial... I should have read the first post again. :|

Grand Master

vcfan

Posted
Posted

Uggghhh,why do you assume its automatically windows 8 hate? could it not be clever advertising on their part to reel in those people who have seen windows 8 metro in stores but don't know there is a desktop and get scared they cant run some of their older programs?

and never believe a trend based on internet blogs and forums. people online like to sit and bitch all day long. consumers are ultimately who choose what is a success of not by voting with their wallets. If you've been on the internet for a long time,you'd think for the past 2 decades Linux and mac own the desktop computer market and nobody uses windows, or that consoles suck and everyone plays their games on PC, or that EA,Activision,etc... suck balls and no one buys their games.

Community Regular

ingramator

Posted
Posted

Yes it is. It's been in the main stream shortly after the first regular people got to use it.

The consumer hate for Windows 8 far exceeds that of Vista. I lived through the Vista release with consumers and while there was hate, Windows 8 hate is at a completely different level.

Now i'm not saying ALL consumers hate Windows 8, some actually like it, they just aren't the norm.

I would love to know where you are sourcing this from because in my personal experience with people it is quite the opposite.

  • goretsky and Praetor
  • Like 2
Grand Master

goretsky Supervisor

Posted
  • Supervisor
Posted

Hello,

Like ingramator, my experience has been that most consumers seem to like Windows 8, especially if they are buying a slate or a notebook with a touch-enabled screen.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

Veteran

DavidM

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Dude, most of the people i know that was bad mouthing Vista when it came out never used it; the case with Win8 is different: most of the people i know love it and aren't bad mouthing the OS (one of my clients had deployed Win8 in ALL their machines).

Like I said, no one I know has said anything at all about Win8, I don't even know if anyone is using it. I guess I'm going to have to make some calls and do some research. :)

DavidM, perhaps you could try emailing them for the commercial if you haven't already? Required information for the contact form includes: First name, Last name, E-Mail address, Phone number, and ZIP code.

http://compren.com/contact.php

In addition, they also have a phone number if you'd prefer to call them instead... 1888-COMPREN

Edit: Wow, that was dumb of me... I guess you aren't really looking for the commercial... I should have read the first post again. :|

Don't worry, it happens to us all. ;)

Uggghhh,why do you assume its automatically windows 8 hate? could it not be clever advertising on their part to reel in those people who have seen windows 8 metro in stores but don't know there is a desktop and get scared they cant run some of their older programs?

and never believe a trend based on internet blogs and forums. people online like to sit and bitch all day long. consumers are ultimately who choose what is a success of not by voting with their wallets. If you've been on the internet for a long time,you'd think for the past 2 decades Linux and mac own the desktop computer market and nobody uses windows, or that consoles suck and everyone plays their games on PC, or that EA,Activision,etc... suck balls and no one buys their games.

Let's see - EA DOES suck, but people still buy their games. PC's are BETTER than consoles. Linux will NEVER own the desktop - too many distros, Mac will NEVER own the desktop - too expensive. So the forums are right about half the time??? Yes, I get what you are saying, and no I don't base what I believe on anything but personal use / experience or people who's opinion I trust.

The only real encounter I had with Win8 and not being wanted was at Staples when I actually heard a person say, "If I can't get it with Windows 7, I don't want it", but I couldn't hear anything else, so I don't know why or if that was part of a longer sentence. Damn, them speedy check out lines!!

It could have been clever advertising, but I've never know CompRen ever being "clever", not to say they weren't, who knows. Maybe it was the way it was said or something, but I got the impression. "Hate 8, don't worry we got 7" might/could have been my personal bias. ;)

This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Posts

    • Report: Microsoft to use AWS to help GitHub deal with a major surge in demand

      By +LightEco · Posted

      Who is paying for this 30x scale-up? Its sounds expensive.
    • Millions of users to benefit from Windows 11's new performance boost on Adobe Photoshop

      By hellowalkman · Posted

      Millions of users to benefit from Windows 11's new performance boost on Adobe Photoshop by Sayan Sen Despite the advent of AI-generated imagery, Adobe's Photoshop remains one of the most popular tools on this planet. Adobe does not have a publicly reported total user count but it's probably not wrong to assume there are millions. As of 2025, Adobe Creative Cloud has had approximately 41 million paid subscribers, many of whom likely use Photoshop. In addition, more than 166,000 companies worldwide are apparently also using the app. These figures are according to a very recent report by SQ Magazine. Out of them, it is fair to assume that many are probably running Windows. As such, there is good news for these users as Microsoft has announced Photoshop is getting a big 20% performance boost on x86-64 (AMD64) systems and a 13% bump-up on Arm devices. This is definitely great news for them as many have complained about the slow performance and general sluggishness of Photoshop on Windows 11 ever since the advent of the latter back in 2021. If you are wondering how Microsoft managed to do this, the answer lies in a combination of compiler-level optimizations and a technology called Sample Profile Guided Optimization (SPGO). According to Microsoft, Adobe worked closely with the company’s Visual C++ team and adopted the latest MSVC toolchain enhancements together with SPGO to squeeze more performance out of Photoshop’s CPU-bound workloads. Unlike traditional Profile Guided Optimization (PGO), which requires developers to create special instrumented builds and run lengthy training workloads, SPGO gathers performance data directly from optimized release binaries. This means Adobe could collect real-world usage information which gives a major advantage to this technique, as companies could leverage data collected from actual customer workloads rather than only relying on synthetic benchmark runs. In theory, this should allow optimizations to better reflect how users interact with software in the real world. Thanks to this, there are improvements to code layout, function inlining, hot-and-cold code separation, and other low-level tweaks that help processors execute instructions more efficiently. Essentially the compiler is better able to identify “hot” code paths, those which are most frequently executed, and optimize them accordingly.
    • The 2TB Samsung 990 PRO NVMe SSD hits lowest price in over three months

      By fernan99 · Posted

      "The 2TB Samsung 990 PRO NVMe SSD hits lowest price in over three months¨ I'd prefer to see the lowest price in over a year
    • The 2TB Samsung 990 PRO NVMe SSD hits lowest price in over three months

      By sphbecker · Posted

      Glad these prices are starting to come down, but that is still crazy. I bought the 2TB 9100 Pro (slightly more expensive version with PCIe 5.0) last year for $240.
    • The 2TB Samsung 990 PRO NVMe SSD hits lowest price in over three months

      By hellowalkman · Posted

      The 2TB Samsung 990 PRO NVMe SSD hits lowest price in over three months by Sayan Sen Yesterday, we covered a really good deal wherein you can get a 4TB TeamGroup T-FORCE G50 NVMe PCIe Gen4 SSD for a low price of just $400 with a special discount coupon. That's just $100 per TB, making it a very good offer during these hard times. The deal is still live, so you can check it out in its dedicated article here if you do not want to miss out. Meanwhile, if you don't have that kind of budget but still wish to buy an SSD for a good price, the 2TB variant of the TeamGroup SSD at $280 its lowest price in over three months. Meanwhile, those seeking 2TB but faster performance can check out Samsung's 990 PRO, which has hit the lowest price also in the last quarter or so, as it's on sale for $370 (purchase links under the specs table down below). Thus, you want a faster drive, get the 990 Pro, or you want more capacity, grab the TeamGroup 4TB linked in the first para. The 990 PRO is a PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD and still one of the fastest drives available today for under $500. Speaking of fast, sequential reads and writes are rated at 7450 MB/s and 6900 MB/s, respectively. The random throughputs for reads and writes are 1400K IOPS and 1550K IOPS, respectively. The 990 PRO is based on Samsung's 7th Gen V-NAND flash, and it too is TLC. It packs 2 gigs of LPDDR4 DRAM cache, which helps the random performance. The endurance rating for this is 1200 TBW (terabytes written), which should be sufficient for most users. The Samsung 990 PRO is compatible with the PlayStation 5, but if you are going to use the 990 PRO on a PC, check out the Samsung Magician app that lets you track your drive's health, update its firmware, customize various settings, and more. The tech specs are given below: Specification TeamGroup T-FORCE G50 2TB Samsung 990 PRO 2TB Interface PCIe 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.4 PCIe Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 2.0 Form Factor M.2 2280 M.2 2280 Controller InnoGrit Controller Samsung In-house Controller NAND Flash 3D TLC 3D TLC DRAM Cache None (HMB supported) 2GB LPDDR4 Sequential Read (Max) 5,000 MB/s 7,450 MB/s Sequential Write (Max) 4,500 MB/s 6,900 MB/s Random Read (4K) Up to 600,000 IOPS Up to 1,400,000 IOPS Random Write (4K) Up to 700,000 IOPS Up to 1,550,000 IOPS TBW (Endurance) 1,300 TBW 1,200 TBW MTBF 3,000,000 hours 1,500,000 hours Operating Temperature 0°C to 70°C 0°C to 70°C Storage Temperature -40°C to 85°C -40°C to 85°C Shock Resistance 1,500G / 0.5ms 1,500G / 0.5ms Heatsink Patented Graphene Heat Spreader No Get them at the links below: Samsung 990 PRO SSD 2TB (MZ-V9P2T0B/AM): $369.99 (Sold and Shipped by Amazon US) TEAMGROUP T-Force G50 2TB SSD (TM8FFE002T0C129): $279.99 (Sold by TeamGroup, Shipped by Amazon US) Good to know This Amazon deal is U.S. specific, and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from a first-party seller link only. Check out Today's Deals on Amazon | or our recent tech deals. Become a Prime member (for Students or SNAP) via Neowin Get Prime Access - Prime for half price (for qualifying Medicaid, EBT, SNAP) Subscribe to Prime Video, Audible Plus, Music Unlimited or Kindle Unlimited via Neowin As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

  • Recent Achievements

    • First Post
      Jocimo earned a badge
      First Post
    • Week One Done
      suprememobiles48 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Windows Guy earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Month Later
      Prasann earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Prasann earned a badge
      Week One Done

  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      522
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      174
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      90
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      81
    5. 5
      ATLien_0
      70
    Show More

  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!