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#1 Dan~

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 14:51

Does anyone know if the UAC in Windows 8.1 will have the learning facility?

 

I recently started to play with Windows 8 and was shocked that the annoying STILL prompt doesn't have an option like "Apply this for all future occurances" so if you say Yes to open, it doesn't nag again.

 

Am I the only one who thinks this needs to be built it?

 

I know you can turn it off, but I like it possibility that it may prompt for something which isn't legitimate (like it's meant to)

 

 




#2 Roger H.

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 15:11

Don't know but odds are everyone would check Apply All and then when some rogue app comes in and masks itself as IE or whatever and runs a muck people will sue Microsoft as a result.



#3 Dot Matrix

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:09

That would compromise your system's security, and make UAC useless, so yes, you are the only one.



#4 ajua

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:45

I agree with Shotta35 and Dot Matrix. A setting like that would compromise more people than we can imagine.

 

Right now, the majority of apps have been changed to work without admin priviliges, but there are plenty that still require them just out of lazyness or indifference from it's authors.

 

A clever way can be implemented, though. Perhaps combining SmartScreen with digital signatures and whitelists or something like that.



#5 TPreston

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 17:48

I agree with Shotta35 and Dot Matrix. A setting like that would compromise more people than we can imagine.

 

Right now, the majority of apps have been changed to work without admin priviliges, but there are plenty that still require them just out of lazyness or indifference from it's authors.

 

A clever way can be implemented, though. Perhaps combining SmartScreen with digital signatures and whitelists or something like that.

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#6 Ian W

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 20:32

If implemented, wouldn't malicious software have free rein over the application(s) that you have decided to trust?



#7 Dot Matrix

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 20:39

If implemented, wouldn't malicious software have free rein over the application(s) that you have decided to trust?

 

It wouldn't be too hard to create a piece of malware that pokes around the OS to see whats open.



#8 Mordkanin

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 20:41

That entirely defeats the purpose of the system. That would allow any app to launch any previously blessed app elevated. Might as well not even have it if you're going to do that.



#9 Javik

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 20:42

The main reason that UAC doesn't do this is that viruses can sometimes alter the code of trusted executables and use them as a means of propagation. Having UAC constantly auto elevate them without question could lead to them being used as a means of delivering an infection. If you think you know what you're doing turn UAC off, otherwise the slight hit to usability is something you'll have to take if you want to benefit from the enhanced security UAC offers



#10 Dashel

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 20:44

Don't know but odds are everyone would check Apply All and then when some rogue app comes in and masks itself as IE or whatever and runs a muck people will sue Microsoft as a result.

Yea, cause MS has ever had that worry about it with their EULA...

 

+1 for su, though your speaking of 'legitimate' has me wondering what your trigger event is.



#11 Rickkins

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 21:25

First thing I do, is disable uac via regedit.

Thanks, ms, but I can defend my machine myself.



#12 grayscale

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 22:10

First thing I do, is disable uac via regedit.

Thanks, ms, but I can defend my machine myself.

This, I think, is the reason why I disagree with what the OP is suggesting. Those who know better can disable it. Those who don't are, in a way, safer with it.



#13 ajua

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 17:46

This, I think, is the reason why I disagree with what the OP is suggesting. Those who know better can disable it. Those who don't are, in a way, safer with it.

 

The problem is that if you disable UAC, Windows 8 apps won't work.

 

I always disabled UAC on Win7 but with Win 8 I had to settle with the least intrusive setting, which is to show the prompt without dimming the screen.



#14 BeerFan

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 00:47

^^ Another reason why Windows 8 is flawed in concept.  I want control of my system, dammit.  Not too much of a downside to me though, as i never use any Win8 "apps".



#15 K.John

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 01:13

The problem is that if you disable UAC, Windows 8 apps won't work.

 

Say what? Windows 8 apps work just fine with UAC disabled.