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Hello,

 

Im playing around with Windows 8.1 and Im trying to access thru Modern UI the Games section and this message pops up.

 

Is there any way to workaround it?

 

Thank you

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Modern apps do not run on the built in admin account. You need to create a new account and set it as admin if you want to run these apps as administrator. This is for security reasons.

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Did not know that. :blink:

 

Then again I dunno what's up with having to run as "built in admin" - not just "account with admin permissions" these days. :p

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Hello,

Modern apps do not run on the built in admin account. You need to create a new account and set it as admin if you want to run these apps as administrator. This is for security reasons.

Its not for security reasons. Its problably because it can be exploited some way that Microsoft doesnt want.

If there is no workaround. then its back to Windows 7 for me :)

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Hello,

Its not for security reasons. Its problably because it can be exploited some way that Microsoft doesnt want.

If there is no workaround. then its back to Windows 7 for me :)

 

But ... why?

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But ... why?

Because I can and want to. When you are limited like in Windows 8 (forces you to start to Start screen and no Windows button for a visual cue for non expierenced users) and now this, it makes you really see that there is no use in using Windows 8/8.1

I dont use the built-in admin account for nothing but I wanted to test something out. I found this and It is enough for me to return Windows 8/8.1 and go back to a OS that was working perfectly for me: Windows 7.

This I believe is the first version of Windows I will skip. I used Windows ME and Windows Vista which were great operating systems (believe it or not)

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Hello,

Because I can and want to. When you are limited like in Windows 8 (forces you to start to Start screen and no Windows button for a visual cue for non expierenced users) and now this, it makes you really see that there is no use in using Windows 8/8.1

I dont use the built-in admin account for nothing but I wanted to test something out. I found this and It is enough for me to return Windows 8/8.1 and go back to a OS that was working perfectly for me: Windows 7.

This I believe is the first version of Windows I will skip. I used Windows ME and Windows Vista which were great operating systems (believe it or not)

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. But yeah, to each his own I guess

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The admin account doesn't have a Microsoft ID and the Games app logs you in with your ID. My guess.

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Can't you just use a MS account to log into the Games app?

I use a local admin account on one of my pc's, because it don't want it to sync everything.

 

If I want to use the store I just login with my MS account so I can share apps between my pc's without dealing with all the other syncing

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Hello,

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. But yeah, to each his own I guess

Let me give you another example which is semirelated to security:

You might remember the tech famous IE6 days where (besides non standards implementations) IE6 was less secure than Firefox (Chrome wasnt even out at the time I believe). Even though IE6 was less secure, many used it because it was the default browser on their PC but another simply used it because we knew how our PC worked and we strapped ourselves with the proper tools to defend ourselves in case someone got passed it.

Like I said I dont use the built in admin account unless there is big problem that I have been able to solve with the built in admin or something else, but its because I CHOOSE to do it this way. 8.1 allows you to rearrange tiles I believe. Why? Because you can and want to personalize the order.

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Hello,

Its not for security reasons. Its problably because it can be exploited some way that Microsoft doesnt want.

If there is no workaround. then its back to Windows 7 for me :)

smh, you realize you just admitted it is designed for security purposes... right?...

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Hello,

smh, you realize you just admitted it is designed for security purposes... right?...

Yes. I know its for security purposes so noone exploits it some way Microsoft doesnt want to.

The problem was I THOUGHT there was no workaround for it. There is, it works, and perfect :) Everyone is happy.

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Hello,

Its not for security reasons. Its problably because it can be exploited some way that Microsoft doesnt want.

If there is no workaround. then its back to Windows 7 for me :)

 

 

Dude, you can't even RUN modern apps on Windows 7. You have LESS options in Windoes 7. At least in Windows 8, you can run Windows 7 apps and if you ever need to you have the OPTION of running Windows 8 apps. Windows 7 has no OPTIONS. Windows 7 gives you NO CHOICE.

So you are saying, because Windows 8 is restricting, you will go back to Windows 7 which is even MORE limited? That doesn't make much sense. :s

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Dude, you can't even RUN modern apps on Windows 7. You have LESS options in Windoes 7. At least in Windows 8, you can run Windows 7 apps and if you ever need to you have the OPTION of running Windows 8 apps. Windows 7 has no OPTIONS. Windows 7 gives you NO CHOICE.

So you are saying, because Windows 8 is restricting, you will go back to Windows 7 which is even MORE limited? That doesn't make much sense. :s

Actually, it's MS restricting the store to W8. Then again, what kind of enthusiast would run "modern apps" when you can use full-fledged programs on anything that doesn't use touch-input.

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Actually, it's MS restricting the store to W8. Then again, what kind of enthusiast would run "modern apps" when you can use full-fledged programs on anything that doesn't use touch-input.

No, it's technologically impossible for win7 to run modern apps. Win 7 has no capabilities to run those apps.

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No, it's technologically impossible for win7 to run modern apps. Win 7 has no capabilities to run those apps.

Sure it is, just like it was impossible to run Halo 2 in XP :rolleyes:.

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Sure it is, just like it was impossible to run Halo 2 in XP :rolleyes:.

 

 

No, Halo could have been easily ported to XP. Windows 8 modern apps are nothing like Halo 2. Windows 8 modern apps uses WinRT, which is separate from Win32, which Windows 7 uses. WinRT is a whole new OS that runs alongside Windows 8 desktop. Windows 7 doesn't have WinRT.

It is embarrassing to see that comment because it shows you you are unaware of how the technology works. It is like saying Windows 7 should be able to run android or iOS apps (without visualization). That makes no sense. Windows 7 doesn't have the code to run Android, iOS, or Windows 8 apps. That's technology. That has nothing to do with MS not wanting to bring windows 8 apps to 7.

This is the same reason why IE6 can't run HTML5 apps. It's not because MS doesn't port HTML5 apps to IE6, but it's because IE6 doesn't have what it needs to run HTML5 apps. Windows 8 modern apps are like iOS apps. They can't run on Windows 7 without visualization, which defeats the purpose.

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No, Halo could have been easily ported to XP. Windows 8 modern apps are nothing like Halo 2. Windows 8 modern apps uses WinRT, which is separate from Win32, which Windows 7 uses. WinRT is a whole new OS that runs alongside Windows 8 desktop. Windows 7 doesn't have WinRT.

It is embarrassing to see that comment because it shows you you are unaware of how the technology works. It is like saying Windows 7 should be able to run android or iOS apps (without visualization). That makes no sense. Windows 7 doesn't have the code to run Android, iOS, or Windows 8 apps. That's technology. That has nothing to do with MS not wanting to bring windows 8 apps to 7.

This is the same reason why IE6 can't run HTML5 apps. It's not because MS doesn't port HTML5 apps to IE6, but it's because IE6 doesn't have what it needs to run HTML5 apps. Windows 8 modern apps are like iOS apps. They can't run on Windows 7 without visualization, which defeats the purpose.

I suppose you meant to say virtualisation so there goes your comment about my technology knowledge.

 

Do point out where I said this wouldn't need virtualisation, and why would using that would defeat "the purpose"?. It has everything to do with MS wanting to phase out W7 in favour of W8. They desperately want to build an Apple-like ecosystem and W7 is in the way, going the same way as XP did.

 

Hmm, maybe you're right about "the purpose". Then again, nobody wants or needs W8 apps on W7. It's just that the fact of saying it can't be done is retarded.

 

Your comparison of W7 with IE6 is so bad I don't even...

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How about we get the title of this thread changed to what the OP was really asking. Not having it say games since that's not really the issue but the Metro apps. I was coming to post saying all the games I have work under admin but this thread is about metro. Please change the title.

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TItle Updated, I wonder when MS will actually allow Modern UI stuff to run without UAC enabled

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I suppose you meant to say virtualisation so there goes your comment about my technology knowledge.

Do point out where I said this wouldn't need virtualisation, and why would using that would defeat "the purpose"?. It has everything to do with MS wanting to phase out W7 in favour of W8. They desperately want to build an Apple-like ecosystem and W7 is in the way, going the same way as XP did.

Hmm, maybe you're right about "the purpose". Then again, nobody wants or needs W8 apps on W7. It's just that the fact of saying it can't be done is retarded.

Your comparison of W7 with IE6 is so bad I don't even...

Let me ask you this: what would need to be done to make windows 8 apps run on windows 7, technologically. You tell me; I want to see if you understand the technology.

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Let me ask you this: what would need to be done to make windows 8 apps run on windows 7, technologically. You tell me; I want to see if you understand the technology.

Same thing Bluestacks does with Android apps I'd reckon.

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Same thing Bluestacks does with Android apps I'd reckon.

I am sorry I misjudged you. You do understand the technology behind this. Initially I assumed you were saying that Metro apps would simply run by double-clicking an .exe file on the Windows 7 desktop. I didn't realize that you meant virtualization, like bluestacks.

I suspected this because you mentioned halo. For halo 2, you didn't need to virtualize. All Microsoft had to do is tweak the code to work make it run on Windows XP. Halo 2 was a Win32 app like all other XP apps.

Again, I am so sorry for the misunderstanding you. Now that I know what you meant, and because this is technology possible, I see the benefit of bringing Windows 8 apps (especially the XB Live games) to Windows 7 using virtualization.

I will add one thing. Most PCs would run VMs poorly (older hardware, less ram, etc.), and the experience will be slow, especially for games. This would make it seem that Windows 8 is slow.

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