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#31 George P

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 09:35

RAM and CPU was never an issue, it was/is mostly the hard drive footprint, in other words how much space the OS takes up on your drive to install. Don't know if anyone has noticed a reduction in that at all.


#32 +Zlip792

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 18:29

How to hide shutdown button on Start Screen:

http://winaero.com/b...e-start-screen/



#33 +warwagon

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 17:08

Well I just installed the 8.1 Feature update. I have this to say about it.

 

Now I might actually be able to sell Windows 8 to people, that is to say I might be able to show them how it works and how to get around the UI with out their eyes glazing over.

 

The retarded hidden charms bar is still there. What I would really like to see is a physical button on the home screen in the top right, next to the search button and the bottom right of the taskbar which would either activate the charms bar or have a drop down with the charms bar items. All the while keeping it hidden along the right.

 

The ONE single thing that makes peoples eyes glaze over when I show them how to use Windows 8 are the Hidden UI elements.



#34 OP +FaiKee

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 00:26

Well I just installed the 8.1 Feature update. I have this to say about it.

 

Now I might actually be able to sell Windows 8 to people, that is to say I might be able to show them how it works and how to get around the UI with out their eyes glazing over.

 

The retarded hidden charms bar is still there. What I would really like to see is a physical button on the home screen in the top right, next to the search button and the bottom right of the taskbar which would either activate the charms bar or have a drop down with the charms bar items. All the while keeping it hidden along the right.

 

The ONE single thing that makes peoples eyes glaze over when I show them how to use Windows 8 are the Hidden UI elements.

Well you could still try to press it to Brandon Live and see if he would add it to his toy, AFAIK build 9600.17031(yes, it's RTM) will not be the final release that will hit MSDN and public Windows Update. :)



#35 George P

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 10:23

I don't get how hidden UIs or controls are now such a big issue for everyone with 8.   They've been around for years in some shape or form, and everyone's using iOS and Android devices without much complaint and they're full of their own hidden UIs or hidden ways of doing things via gestures and so on.



#36 zhangm

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 22:54

I don't get how hidden UIs or controls are now such a big issue for everyone with 8.   They've been around for years in some shape or form, and everyone's using iOS and Android devices without much complaint and they're full of their own hidden UIs or hidden ways of doing things via gestures and so on.


It is beneath some folks in support positions to teach less knowledgeable users about features that they themselves don't like. I'm not going to try and justify it, but there's no reason to be surprised that this is the case.

#37 George P

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 22:57

It is beneath some folks in support positions to teach less knowledgeable users about features that they themselves don't like. I'm not going to try and justify it, but there's no reason to be surprised that this is the case.

 

Well how much more counter to the job can you be in that case?   Oh well, technology has taught us that with a bit of time and a guide or two people will learn how to use new things. 



#38 zhangm

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 23:13

Well how much more counter to the job can you be in that case? Oh well, technology has taught us that with a bit of time and a guide or two people will learn how to use new things.


If you're taught a skill by one or a few people, you're subject to the biases of that limited set of viewpoints - the really scary thing is that this is a general issue rather than one limited to computer user support, and there's considerable blindness to it. With regard to computing, I have a list of various reasons that technicians wouldn't be losing sleep about teaching or not teaching novices about every potential way to get a task done, but I don't want to get into it lest I start defending that position.

A lot of tech jobs just have support services shoot for getting users to accomplish tasks rather than turning users into experts. The other part of it is that I think we're wired to favor what is familiar - it's a pretty effective strategy and almost always wins in short-term gain, so it's not as if the people doing this would even see it as a wrong decision. But I'm drifting off-topic, and will have to ban myself if I continue. :p

#39 xendrome

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 23:27

AFAIK build 9600.17031(yes, it's RTM) will not be the final release that will hit MSDN and public Windows Update. :)

 

Of course it will be. RTM = RTM = RTM.



#40 OP +FaiKee

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 00:34

Of course it will be. RTM = RTM = RTM.

You forgot what happened last Aug? MS first posted win8.1 RTM in MSDN, then prior to GA they posted a 2nd time, RTM slipstreamed with RollupA, :)



#41 OP +FaiKee

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 01:37

MS China guy @WBpluto also claims that "build 9600.17031 unlikely to be final release"(final release means the edition that hits MSDN)

 

http://bbs.pcbeta.co...486487-1-1.html

 

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