+Warwagon MVC Posted April 18, 2004 MVC Share Posted April 18, 2004 I basically want to hear from people who are against weed; I want to hear their way of thinking about why it should never be legalized, because frankly I just can't figure this one it out. Help me understand, you weed haters Before you respond think about if your reason can also be said for Alcohol and Tobacco both of which are currently legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 first, alcohol and tobacco are social norms and a part of our culture marijuana however, like alcohol and tobacco, is addictive and can impair judgment as well as physical ability, not to mention the health risks involved. so are not healthy (excluding alcohol in moderation), and it is illegal to drink and drive i don't know if you have ever worked with somebody who is high on weed but they are not much fun to work with, same with a drunk marijuana also is a gateway drug which almost always leads to additional drug use and abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beh Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Isn't tobacco more harmful that regular marijuana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Isn't tobacco more harmful that regular marijuana? no, i don't know where people get that bs, it has many more carcinogens, like the bs people say you can't get high your first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beh Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 marijuana also is a gateway drug which almost always leads to additional drug use and abuse That is their excuse when they can't find more negative things to say about it. Don't get me wrong i only tried it like 2 times, and been around it much more so im not defending it becuase im a "pot head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liebe Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 its not as bad as tobacco, and many people dont get high their first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornett Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 no, i don't know where people get that bs, it has many more carcinogens, like the bs people say you can't get high your first time I've not heard this before, care to show your source? (I don't doubt you, I'm just interested). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 its not as bad as tobacco, and many people dont get high their first time. again, where do you get this BS? there are no studies that back that up marijuana tobacco carcinogens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted April 18, 2004 Author MVC Share Posted April 18, 2004 (edited) no, i don't know where people get that bs, it has many more carcinogens, like the bs people say you can't get high your first time ok so basicly what your saying is if you smoke it it has the posiblity of killing you ... ok so its like tabacoo .. first, alcohol and tobacco are social norms and a part of our culture thats only because they are legal.. and people don't have to break the law to get it. is addictive and can impair judgment as well as physical ability, not to mention the health risks involved. ok.. so its addictive like tabaco.. and impairs your judgment like alcahol...or atlease it can't impare it anyworse i don't know if you have ever worked with somebody who is high on weed but they are not much fun to work with, same with a drunk ok so you've basiclly just admited that in that sence its just like alcohol marijuana also is a gateway drug which almost always leads to additional drug use and abuse Thats because they have to go get the weed from illegel sources including people who are also selling much worse Edited April 18, 2004 by warwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beh Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 An average marijuana cigarette contains 30 nanograms of this carcinogen,compared to 21 nanograms in an average tobacco cigarette Ok so marijuana has 9 more nanograms, but people smoke cigarettes alot more than marijuana, and I think it will still be like that if marijuana was legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 well neither tobacco nor alcohol make me want to watch cartoons for 4 hours while eating peanut butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 The only difference I can tell you is, I've seen people with problems become alcoholics, but for the majority of people drinking alcohol is not a problem. On the other hand, I've seen perfectly mentally stable people ruin their lives with drugs, and they've always started with pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kombolcha Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 i want to know why to. people who drink responsibley will drink when they are at home, not while they are working or driving. but alchohol is legal. what's the difference if weed was legal and it was rolled and sold just like ciggerettes are now? people can smoke them just like they drink alchohol. then people are going to come out and say, that's bad because now all that's going to do is make those "junkies" or people who already smoke it smoke more and would want to bring more attention to themselves and they'll say that there will be more crime and crap. my view of this is that it woulnd't be like this if it was legal in the first place. the only problem i would see with this is people passing off chronic weed as natural weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 warwagon: its an unhealthy, addictive drug that nothing good can result from it use (non medical), end of story we get it, you like pot, and sure some people can use it and function fine; however, the majority cannot which leads to other drugs, mental and physical impairments, crime... enough said i always loved the kids who tried to debate this one in comm class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beh Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 If there was no such thing as marijuana, i still think that people will go after different harder drugs instead. It is just the first drug everyone starts off with becuase its more abundant and it is lighter. If it wasnt there poeple would try harder stuff first anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 how old are you guys? i cannot believe a sensible adult would even consider arguing this pathetic debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted April 18, 2004 Author MVC Share Posted April 18, 2004 warwagon: its an unhealthy, addictive drug that nothing good can result from it use (non medical), end of storyTobacco isn?t healthy for you either.. And either is drinking 10 cans of beer in 2 hours.we get it, you like pot, and sure some people can use it and function fine; however, the majority cannot which leads to other drugs, mental and physical impairments, crime... enough said No infact I have never tried pot, as far as functioning fine, some people can have 2 beer and be buzzed to hell, while others don?t feel a thing ?. Hmm leads to other drugs huh? Let?s stop and think about were these people currently have to get weed from. .. and people should just stop saying it has physical impairments because so does drinking i always loved the kids who tried to debate this one in comm class I always love to see people debate against this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravager Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 If there was no such thing as marijuana, i still think that people will go after different harder drugs instead. It is just the first drug everyone starts off with becuase its more abundant and it is lighter. If it wasnt there poeple would try harder stuff first anyways. So you're saying that if it weren't for weed, we'd have cocaine sniffers everywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuka_t Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Tobacco isn?t healthy for you either.. And either is drinking 10 cans of beer in 2 hours.No infact I have never tried pot, as far as functioning fine, some people can have 2 beer and be buzzed to hell, while others don?t feel a thing ?. Hmm leads to other drugs huh? Let?s stop and think about were these people currently have to get weed from. .. and people should just stop saying it has physical impairments because so does drinking I always love to see people debate against this from all the stuff youve said it seems you want tobaco and alkahole to be illegal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted April 18, 2004 Author MVC Share Posted April 18, 2004 if they are looking for something to get the job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted April 18, 2004 Author MVC Share Posted April 18, 2004 (edited) from all the stuff youve said it seems you want tobaco and alkahole to be illegal too. hmmm you make a good point, not really helping your case but still a good point Edited April 18, 2004 by warwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 alright, try this: what's the point of drinking 1 beer? What's the point of smoking 1 cigarette? What's the point of smoking 1 joint? If you can't see the difference, you've been smoking to much weed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongit Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 No I don't ..it just makes me wonder either why they arn't illegel too or why isn't Weed Legal because there are far more users of alcohol than marijuana. Additionally there is a higher percentage of Marijauna users that are abusers compared to Alcohol abusers per users. An abuser being an individual who users the substance more than just occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted April 18, 2004 Author MVC Share Posted April 18, 2004 alright, try this: what's the point of drinking 1 beer? What's the point of smoking 1 cigarette? What's the point of smoking 1 joint?If you can't see the difference, you've been smoking to much weed already. because we legally can , because legally we can, but if we legally can with the first 2 than why not this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 because we legally can , because legally we can, but if we legally can with the first 2 than why not this one? Exactly, why not that one? Answer the question, what's the difference between smoking a cig and smoking a joint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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