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I had good fun in the dry using my BMW M3. The wet race is very hard but the 2J is definetly the car to do it in. Just like Schumaker and Button :p, look for the extra grip off the racing line, and be smooth and gentle with the throttle and brakes. The track isn't 100% wet untill midway through the 2nd lap, so if you haven't got gold on the first, restart. I got a 2:34.6 after about an hour of trying. (Y)

I must try that car. I put in a 2:36 in a GT-R Mask with no traction control.

Patch and DLC out!

DLC is not.

[Hedon]

Does the patch fix the online lag?

[Fish]

No, it's mainly just adding the DLC content. I doubt the online lag issue will get fixed anytime soon.

[Intersect]

just checked to see if i had done the A-Spec Amateur - Classic Muscle Car Championship. to get that buick special car, and its been done.

could not find the car in my collection so did it again and was given a stratos rally car :(

cant wait for the DLC :D

[AbandonedTrolley]

Does the patch fix the online lag?

Patch notes from GT site, no mention of lag fixing :(

A new update has been released for Gran Turismo 5.

The main contents of the update are as follows:

[DLCs]

- New 'Speed Test Course Pack' DLC

The Speed Test Course Pack DLC will add a Speed Test feature to Gran Turismo 5 and will be released for sale on the PlayStation?Store from January 17th, 2012. The price of the DLC will be $3.99.

The new Special Stage Route X Oval track is also included in this pack as a special stage for performing the tests. Measure the performance of your favorite cars with a variety of test features. When this DLC is purchased, the Special Stage Route X Oval will become available to use in the Arcade Mode, Practice, and in Online races. For details, please follow the link below.

- Speed Test Course Pack

- New 'Car Pack 3' DLC

The latest Car Pack 3 DLC will add more new cars to Gran Turismo 5, and will be released for sale on the PlayStation?Store from January 17th, 2012. The price of the DLC will be $5.99.

Featuring cars from both past and present, it includes Lamborghini's latest flagship model Aventador, Jaguar XJR-9 LM Racecar, Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 66' Volkswagen 1200, Mini Cooper S Countryman, and Nissan Leaf. For details, please follow the link below.

- Car Pack 3

[Other Improvements]

- 12 new My Home theme colors and 12 new wallpapers for [GT Mode] have been added to the game. Please find these from the [My Home Settings]-[My Home Design] menu on the left side of the screen.

- Tire wear speed prediction has been added to the pit stop decisions in B-Spec, to prevent tires from wearing out completely during long races.

- Regenerative braking (which recovers energy by converting kinetic energy into electricity) in electric cars have been made stronger to extend driving distance.

- Electric cars will now also creep forward (as in standard automatic cars) when the brake is released without pressing the accelerator.

- Regarding the Chaparral 2J race car's performance points, the increased performance factor due to the downforce produced by the fan is now calculated.

[Correction of Known Issues]

- A issue has been corrected where the car would pit in unintentionally during the last lap of a B spec race.

[To Check Your Current Version]

To check the version of your software, press the "Manual" button at the bottom of the main menu screen. The version number will be located on the upper left of the index page in this manual.

If the number starts with "Ver. 2.03", you are playing the latest version of the game.

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Just try and beat GT5s lighting!

Also a standard/premium conversion comparison

[Hedon]

Forza has GT beat in lighting. However, obviously not in night time...since Forza does not have night racing.

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Forza has GT beat in lighting. However, obviously not in night time...since Forza does not have night racing.

You won't find many people to agree with that. Forza looks like someone took bloom steroids with a cup of rainbow juice.

Some more of the DLC cars

[Hedon]

You won't find many people to agree with that. Forza looks like someone took bloom steroids with a cup of rainbow juice.

Actually, there are many that agree with that. Even some of us peeps that GTPlanet realize that as well. I wouldn't expect you to think so though. ;)

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Actually, there are many that agree with that. Even some of us peeps that GTPlanet realize that as well. I wouldn't expect you to think so though. ;)

If it makes you enjoy your game better, keep believing. I've yet to see Forza produce pictures as good as the best in this topic and I garner more weight through results than personal belief.

You would also think if Forza were the better game on the photography front it would have a topic comparable if not longer than that GT5 picture thread. Wonder why people prefer taking pictures in GT5 ;)

[Hedon]

If it makes you enjoy your game better, keep believing. I've yet to see Forza produce pictures as good as the best in this topic and I garner more weight through results than personal belief.

You just keep telling yourself that ;)

Neogaf? LOL...try GTPlanet, where us REAL racers post ;)

You would also think if Forza were the better game on the photography front it would have a topic comparable if not longer than that GT5 picture thread. Wonder why people prefer taking pictures in GT5 ;)

Maybe because GT outsells Forza 10:1? I am sure THAT has quite a bit to do with it.

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You just keep telling yourself that ;)

Neogaf? LOL...try GTPlanet, where us REAL racers post ;)

Maybe because GT outsells Forza 10:1? I am sure THAT has quite a bit to do with it.

Pictures are pictures regardless of where they come from, look in the Neowin GT5 photo thread instead. Results in there are still far more life like than Neowin's forza counterpart.

[shakey]

Pictures are pictures regardless of where they come from, look in the Neowin GT5 photo thread instead. Results in there are still far more life like than Neowin's forza counterpart.

And when was an excuse that a game sales poorly to another, an acceptable reason that it is still better? With more 360 owners than PS3, I would think, if Forza was better, it would also have the numbers to prove it.

While I think forza looks nice, it has too much of a arcady look to it.

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And when was an excuse that a game sales poorly to another, an acceptable reason that it is still better? With more 360 owners than PS3, I would think, if Forza was better, it would also have the numbers to prove it.

While I think forza looks nice, it has too much of a arcady look to it.

Yup, general lighting is very flat, apart from when it's hit with solar flare bloom. Then there's the unrealistic colour tones given to cars to try and make them 'pop'.

[Hedon]

And when was an excuse that a game sales poorly to another, an acceptable reason that it is still better? With more 360 owners than PS3, I would think, if Forza was better, it would also have the numbers to prove it.

While I think forza looks nice, it has too much of a arcady look to it.

Actually, GT5 is to arcadey (in lighting) in comparison to FM4, even more so when you get the 80% standards in the photos. Pretty bad actually.

Who made an excuse? AB asked why there are more photos in a GT5 thread? So if 1 million people have the game and post pictures, they wouldn't out number the 100,000 Forza posters posting images?

This is like Fuzzy Math all over again!

Pictures are pictures regardless of where they come from, look in the Neowin GT5 photo thread instead.

I have been looking in all the threads you mention for ages. And yup, pictures are pictures regardless. Forza clearly shows better lighting.

Results in there are still far more life like than Neowin's forza counterpart.

So are we changing the tune now? I thought we were talking lighting? Now you are talking lifelike? Life like what? Life like lighting? If so, Forza has that nailed better than GT. GT 5 Premium cars vs. Forza cars, exteriors overall, GT5 wins in the graphics.

Yup, general lighting is very flat, apart from when it's hit with solar flare bloom. Then there's the unrealistic colour tones given to cars to try and make them 'pop'.

Oh I want to play that game. I can produce crappy images from GT5 of that same car, and I can produce better images from Forza 4 of that same car. I love that game!

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Lighting goes a long way to make something look lifelike. If it's arcadey and unrealistic it looks, 'gamey', should we say. Unnatural bloom and the plastic look being bad offenders.

Probably not very productive for you to continue preaching in the GT5 topic, but I'd say any where else GT releated either, as I believe you'll find more people against your opinion than for.

[Hedon]

Lighting goes a long way to make something look lifelike. If it's arcadey and unrealistic it looks, 'gamey', should we say. Unnatural bloom and the plastic look being bad offenders.

That is part of the problem with GT5, I agree.

Probably not very productive for you to continue preaching in the GT5 topic, but I'd say any where else GT releated either, as I believe you'll find more people against your opinion than for.

You brought up GT5 looking better than other games, not me. Of course Sony people in a Sony topic won't agree with me. That would be like Republican's agree with Democrats or vice versa. Just won't happen.

But we need more peeps like me, who are independent and enjoy both games for what they are and can see the flaws in both. Those people are the real winners.

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You brought up GT5 looking better than other games, not me. Of course Sony people in a Sony topic won't agree with me. That would be like Republican's agree with Democrats or vice versa. Just won't happen.

But we need more peeps like me, who are independent and enjoy both games for what they are and can see the flaws in both. Those people are the real winners.

Ehhh you brought Forza into the topic specifically to argue the topic of games looking better? I mentioned no games at all, merely a comment in regards to trying to beat GT5s lighting. I could've meant by real life pictures you know, I didn't specify games ;) I guess you got riled up at the notion of someone praising GT5s lighting in the GT5 thread and wanted to give your independent say on the matter stat.

[Hedon]

Ehhh you brought Forza into the topic specifically to argue the topic of games looking better? I mentioned no games at all, merely a comment in regards to trying to beat GT5s lighting. I could've meant by real life pictures you know, I didn't specify games ;)

Point taken ;)

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Some PD magic!

[AbandonedTrolley]

Some PD magic!

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Wrong thread ;) Photos are in a different one.

I do still think that PD have the upper hand in graphics and lighting as a whole package there is no doubt about that in my mind. Also if you ever play it in the cockpit in 3D that is an experience to be had :) Not too sure if they have patched in 3D on Forza or not though.

[Hedon]

There will not be any 3D for Forza 4, and no patches to add it. Maybe with Forza 5 we will see that, who knows.

I have to disagree with GT having the upper hand though. 80% of the cars and nearly 80% of the tracks look pretty bad. We can't really say a game is aces because a small part of it looks good. If that was the case, just going by AutoVista, Forza would destroy GT5 visually in every possible way.

Here nor there, I like both games.

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There will not be any 3D for Forza 4, and no patches to add it. Maybe with Forza 5 we will see that, who knows.

I have to disagree with GT having the upper hand though. 80% of the cars and nearly 80% of the tracks look pretty bad. We can't really say a game is aces because a small part of it looks good. If that was the case, just going by AutoVista, Forza would destroy GT5 visually in every possible way.

Here nor there, I like both games.

Grasping at straws there. Forza doesn't have night racing, weather or tracks long enough for endurance (well the endurance part is more about Forza being constructed of simple 3/5 lap races constantly). We're talking about lighting and photomode here, why not look at the areas it shows off it's full capacity. One of those being the ability for lighting to actually change between blistering sunny day, overcast and then night time. A superior lighting engine can handle more than just sun.

Circuit de la Sarthe 2009_33 by xXSunnyBoyXx, on Flickr

Circuit de la Sarthe 2009_40 by xXSunnyBoyXx, on Flickr

Circuit de la Sarthe 2009_47 by xXSunnyBoyXx, on Flickr

Circuit de la Sarthe 2009_68 by xXSunnyBoyXx, on Flickr

Circuit de la Sarthe 2009_66 by xXSunnyBoyXx, on Flickr

Trial Mountain Circuit_4 by xXSunnyBoyXx, on Flickr

N?rburgring 24h_14 by xXSunnyBoyXx, on Flickr

N?rburgring 24h_31 by xXSunnyBoyXx, on Flickr

N?rburgring 24h_20 by xXSunnyBoyXx, on Flickr

[Hedon]

I won't do it AB...not gonna derail the thread any further. If there was a GT vs Forza thread, I would have just destroyed your comment though ;)

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I won't do it AB...not gonna derail the thread any further. If there was a GT vs Forza thread, I would have just destroyed your comment though ;)

A few more favs

These almost look real

Then some crappy scenery

Maybe Karts show off the lighting engine the best? :p