ViperAFK, on 03 April 2012 - 22:54, said:
lol, tanks were far from "unstoppable killing machines". A single engineer can easily kill a tank.
Again, this. If people know what they are doing, tanks are hardly killing machines. I say this as someone who has been on the receiving end plenty of times of some C4 from a sniper or from the repair tool of an enemy engineer. Tanks are without a doubt fairly easy to take out when up close. One of the many things that separates a good tank driver from a bad one is making sure you keep the enemy far enough away so they do not have the opportunity to get up close and personal and deploy any of the easier means to take you out fairly easily. Even with being aware of this fact, it still happens fairly often. But a good squad will send one or two people out as "bait" while the other ones circle around to take out the tank from the back. This is also a good example of why having a great gunner in the tank really makes a huge difference. A good tank team will usually do it so the driver covers what ever they are looking at, while the gunner is covering the opposite direction. A gunner should only be looking and firing in the same direction as the driver when it is necessary to do so.
So the last thing I will say about all of this all is the funny thing is, I actually happen to fully agree that someone camping in a tank is incredibly annoying. IMO they ruin the game and are not playing it the way it is meant to be played. What I absolutely do not agree with is when someone makes a generalization that all people that use tanks camp because some people choose to do so. Especially when it is expressed as fact rather than an opinion, and especially when it is deliberatly said to offend either a certain person or people who happen to enjoy that aspect of the game. That is then taking to a whole other level just for the sake of getting under peoples skin.
Also to knock an aspect of the game play, in this case a tank which falls under the umbrella of vehicles, that literally is one of the key reasons the series is what it is, is just ignorant at best. Vehicles are what truly differentiate Battlefield from the competition and IMHO is what has helped it stand the test of time. When someone says Battlefield, almost immediately someone says vehicles. They are literally synonymous with each other. So if for whatever reason you really dislike the fact that vehicles are part of the game, this game is not for you. Time to go back to a game like CoD that caters to what you prefer. Absolutely no need to sit in a thread about the game and knock anyone who enjoys what is one of the biggest aspects of said game. It would be like going into a thread for Left 4 Dead and saying Zombies are stupid and anyone who likes shooting zombies does not know how to play the game.
Finally, the reason I defend using a tank so vehemently is this...
I have stated so many times now that I have played BF since its inception. I also make it clear I use a tank whenever I can and I am a tank whore. However I am equally comfortable on foot. It is just my preference to play in the tank. And I am good at using a tank because I have put in a whole, whole lot of hours using one. I can drive in reverse just as good, if not better, as driving normally. I know pressing 1 and 2 frequently to change weapons is imperative to being a good tank driver. I can go on and on, but really the truth of the matter is, practice makes perfect, and I have had a whole lot of practice in tanks. So to say I am cheap because I am actually good does bother me, as I know I am good because I put in the time to be good.
Not only that, I simply never camp when using a tank. First off, I only play Conquest. To me, that is Battlefield. None of these other modes existed when I first started playing 1942, it was always Conquest. As such, that is the one and only mode I play. Most of the time when I play the other modes it has been my experience that people seem to only be concerned about their KD Ratio and hardly doing any objectives. So for both of those reasons I tend to stay away from the other modes. I can absolutely imagine that if someone is using a tank in a non-Conquest Mode, those people would have a tendency to camp just for their KD ratio. But I also was under the impression vehicles hardly exist in those modes, which is actually a good thing if it is true.
So yeah, that is my last little tangent about tanks and vehicles overall. I truly cannot see how one would even bother playing the game if they dislike the vehicle aspect of it all. Vehicles are synonymous with Battlefield. So much so that talking smack about the people who choose to use the vehicles in the Official thread about the game can only be done out of spite and/or because one likes to start drama for the sake of it. Either way, I do not think that is the way to go about things, so I do apologize to everyone for stooping to the level I did a few days ago and in turn derailing the thread, as that was no better than what prompted me to respond that way to begin with. In fact it was worse as I was fighting fire with fire. I should have either wrote the response I just wrote now and have been done with it, and or better yet, just ignore it and not feed the troll and let those of us who enjoy the game for what it is continue discussing it.
I actually hope to check out the new patch sooner than later. Just have had zero time to play anything lately, but really want to check it out asap.
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