Nokia N9 announced!

[XIII]

Yes, another grid of icons, soooooooooooooo much nicer indeed.

GP007 I know your dying love for WP7 but your fanboy attitude deludes you from acknowledging anything better than WP7. The reality is far from it. WP7 is unique but it's far from the best.

BTW, this is really nice. If this phone came out like 1 years earlier, Nokia wouldn't be the sinking ship we know today.

[rajputwarrior]

^ you calling someone a fanboy is hilarious btw

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i don't understand nokia's thinking behind this. release a phone with an OS you are not going to be supporting fully within 6 months or so?

[.Neo]

Real shame it doesn't come with WP7.

Undoubtedly I'm being blind, but I don't see a release date?

[XIII]

^ you calling someone a fanboy is hilarious btw

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i don't understand nokia's thinking behind this. release a phone with an OS you are not going to be supporting fully within 6 months or so?

Why am I a fanboy ? I have Dell Venue Pro, Samsung Focus with WP7 and HD2, Samsung Captivate running Android. Meego looks much better than both WP7 and Android IMO.

Real shame it doesn't come with WP7.

Undoubtedly I'm being blind, but I don't see a release date?

We have enough WP7 handsets as it is, what's the point of releasing another WP7 clone ? This one looks much nicer.

[thealexweb]

Yes, another grid of icons, soooooooooooooo much nicer indeed.

Sorry mate but that's just whats popular these days, if Nokia gets even an average response from this phone they should look again at being Windows Phone only. Anyway this looks like the best thing that's come out of Nokia for years :)

[.Neo]

We have enough WP7 handsets as it is, what's the point of releasing another WP7 clone ? This one looks much nicer.

Can't say I agree. I find current WP7 hardware design lacking and unappealing. Let me return the question: What's the point in releasing a phone with a niche mobile OS that probably won't ever get off the ground?

[George P Global Moderator]

GP007 I know your dying love for WP7 but your fanboy attitude deludes you from acknowledging anything better than WP7. The reality is far from it. WP7 is unique but it's far from the best.

BTW, this is really nice. If this phone came out like 1 years earlier, Nokia wouldn't be the sinking ship we know today.

If you go back a bit to my first post in the thread you'd see I gave it credit for the swipe feature, but that's it. The rest is much the same tbh, the grid of icons are like the iPhone and Samsungs bada etc. One nice new feature isn't enough though, and honestly that's all I see. You can call me a WP7 fanboy, fine, but lets be honest, the live tiles and future deep linking coming with Mango are innovative and something not done anywhere else. This is fact, hard to see it as otherwise. Now if you don't like the look that's one thing but the tech stands on it's own.

[liju]

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As it stands now, even if there are no new Symbian phones announced, they need to take care of the userbase (maintain the Ovi Store and services etc),

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10 Symbian devices are said to be coming and the one news which seemed to have sunk in the N9 wave is the S40 becoming a lot more smarter, Qt on S40. Now Qt on MeeGo, Symbian and S40. With the release of Belle at the end of this year Symbian UI will come close to Harmattan.

[George P Global Moderator]

Sorry mate but that's just whats popular these days, if Nokia gets even an average response from this phone they should look again at being Windows Phone only. Anyway this looks like the best thing that's come out of Nokia for years :)

But it's not, androids at least got it's widgets. Meego isn't going to sell in volume, just watch by the insane price this N9 will end up having. IIRC the N8 when it first came out cost 800euros around here. And there's no way in hell a carrier is going to cover all of that even with a contract I bet. So expect to pay 200-300euros PLUS get locked into a 2-3year contract if you want this.

[rajputwarrior]

Why am I a fanboy ? I have Dell Venue Pro, Samsung Focus with WP7 and HD2, Samsung Captivate running Android. Meego looks much better than both WP7 and Android IMO.

never said you were. your anti apple rants sure make you seem you are :whistle:

[XIII]

Why would I promote something that I am totally not interested in (iOShit) ? :rolleyes:

[rajputwarrior]

Why would I promote something that I am totally not interested in (iOShit) ? :rolleyes:

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO and the ignorant 12 year old comments are back.

[Knife Party]

just having seen Meego perform, lets see how this goes.....

[bogas04]

It reminds me of windows 8 demos

[thealexweb]

The problem is that these Meego phones are going to be priced at the higher end. Look at the N8 as an example, I can buy it for 500euros right now but it's been out how long? The E7, 600euros. I mean these aren't even new last I checked. I'm sure this N9 will sell for 800euros brand new without some expensive contract which, in the end, you'll still have to pay 300-400euros for the phone.

Android got to where it is off of lower end cheap phones that are given away for free or basically for free with a contract.

It's $660 for the 16GB model which is ?458.

[.Neo]

Is there any word on a timeframe when this will be released? Hopefully this won't be the N8 all over again where they announced the phone in April and released it in October. :/

[Vice]

Beautiful looking phone it's a shame it isn't running an operating system with a future like Android.

They should call it the Nokia N9 "Straight to the grave edition"

[George P Global Moderator]

It's $660 for the 16GB model which is ?458.

You're just following the normal exchange rates, tech/hardware companies don't. If something is $660 in the US you can be pretty sure it'll be ?660 etc. And just the 16GB? So then what, the 64GB will go for $1k? :laugh:

[ichi]

Also as nice as the Meego swipe to open app view is the other problem is support, dev support. Are the symbian devs going to switch over to this? Hell what's the programing language for this anyways?

Being Qt the apps are cross-platform, you could run Meego apps on Symbian, Linux, Windows or MacOS (and latter on other platforms like iOS, Android and WebOS, once the framework ports get stable enough) with no or little code modifications.

Of course the app UI design for a phone is not as portable as, say, a PC app, but it's still a lot more dev friendly than Dalvik. Also Qt UI design tools are quite good, much unlike Android's.

It's a shame that Meego wasn't released earlier though, with enough time to build an ecosystem that could compete with Android's and iOS's.

If Nokia had decided to push Meego it could still have been a success anyway, they could have taken advantage of AlienDalvik to lure Android devs into the OVI store and build a somewhat decent sized app market for Meego even before Qt devs began developing apps designed for it. While running Android apps on Meego wouldn't be as optimal as native Qt apps, you could at least get the most popular Android apps from the get-go.

And then they also had Intel's help to push Meego on Netbooks, IVIs and TVs, which would mean a tight integration between devices.

A shame, really :/

If I hadn't bought a Nexus S already I'd probably get one of these N9.

[Adrian0E]

If something is $660 in the US you can be pretty sure it'll be ?660 etc.

Exactly!

[game_over]

I read an article about this last night saying it was doomed, but i think it looks quite nice..

ot: liju - who is the girl in your avatar?

[Elliott]

MeeGo actually looks pretty nice. It's a shame they aren't making it their main priority. More competition is always a good thing.

[Mohitster]

Everytime I see it, it looks damn damn tasty!! :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

[Mohitster]

10 Symbian devices are said to be coming and the one news which seemed to have sunk in the N9 wave is the S40 becoming a lot more smarter, Qt on S40. Now Qt on MeeGo, Symbian and S40. With the release of Belle at the end of this year Symbian UI will come close to Harmattan.

+1

Couldn't agree with you more. I also visualize different mobile operating systems co-existing....and also nokia not completely dropping support for its own platforms......as it stands, there is a huge mobile userbase still to be tapped....and people do make their own choices!

[fanel89]

Most people are asking themselves what the point of this phone is but out of all the phones out there or rumoured to come out, this will be my next phone. My current phone is a Nokia N73 and they make solid phones. I didn't want another Symbian phone because I want a touch phone and the current Symbian phones are really not optimized for touch. A good alternative to Symbian is Android but there's really nothing out there that stands out (the Galaxy S II is amazing but it has cheap build quality).

This phone with Meego on the other hand is perfect. It ticks all the right boxes: offline map navigation, sync with Outlook, Facebook/Twitter integration, Skype, PROPER multitasking, good fast camera, high resolution screen, great build quality, amazing AMOLED screen. Overall, it is a well-rounded phone. Some people are saying its CPU is its weak point but I watched so many videos of it and as long as navigation through the OS is smooth (which it is), why does it matter if it doesn't have a dual-core CPU. For me, it is good because the phone doesn't feel neutered if you're not connected to the cloud 24/7. It can easily function as a smartphone without a data plan and anything else requiring data is extra.

It comes preloaded with necessary apps so I don't care if the store barely has any and as long as it is stable when shipping, I don't care for how long it will be supported by Nokia and I know the phone will have amazing community support

So I will be a Nokia N9 customer when this comes out. I'll get it shipped from overseas to Canada, I don't care but perhaps this sheds some light on what kind of person would buy this phone.