School Punishes Boy for Opposing Homosexuality

[articuno1au]

People are born with their skin color, but nobody is born with a particular sexuality. Therefore it would be illogical to say "being black is wrong", while "being gay is wrong" is a perfectly logical statement (and also understandable when you've been brainwashed by your religion for your whole life).

Anyway, why do you feel the need to say "what if he said X"?

What if he said "I hate people who see what I said and say 'what if he said this'"?

What if he said "I hate people who Capitalize words which aren't meant to Be capitalized in mid Sentence"?

Apart from the whole "born gay or chose gay" issue, where in there is no consensus, what happens when we find a way to bleach the skin easily?

Then people can choose to be white. Thus will being black be wrong then?

/shrug

The school got it wrong, and it would appear the teacher was pushing an agenda. That's where the problem lies. He pushed an agenda, then punished the child for not agreeing with him on the matter.

[mudslag]

Apart from the whole "born gay or chose gay" issue, where in there is no consensus, what happens when we find a way to bleach the skin easily?

Then people can choose to be white. Thus will being black be wrong then?

/shrug

The school got it wrong, and it would appear the teacher was pushing an agenda. That's where the problem lies. He pushed an agenda, then punished the child for not agreeing with him on the matter.

The point is, at the end of the day it was nothing but an opinion. That in itself doesnt constitute a punishment. But as for bleaching the skin, that still doesnt change who a person is. A black person bleaching their skin white doesnt make them any less black then a white person tanning themselves make then any less still a white person.

[articuno1au]

The point is, at the end of the day it was nothing but an opinion. That in itself doesnt constitute a punishment. But as for bleaching the skin, that still doesnt change who a person is, so that point is moot.

Indeed, and in fact I said the school got it wrong, so well read there.

Based on your differentiating skin bleaching from being gay, I take it you think being gay changes you as a person..

Like you never see a black guy affected by his skin colour and the situations he faces/faced as a result of it.

Well played..

[mudslag]

Indeed, and in fact I said the school got it wrong, so well read there.

Based on your differentiating skin bleaching from being gay, I take it you think being gay changes you as a person..

Like you never see a black guy affected by his skin colour and the situations he faces/faced as a result of it.

Well played..

I didnt suggest that. There is a difference between who you are mentally and who you are biologically. Yes your biological factor can have an affect on your mental factor. Still a black person bleaching their skin doesnt make them white.

[Ently]

It seems like the school did overreact but at the same time thoughts that are like that really shouldn't be thrown around. No one gains from negativety and to those saying it was his church... how do you know that? It could have been his parents pushing him or maybe he has represses homosexual urges (I find most homophobic people do).

Btw I'm not a religious person so don't think I'm sticking up for the church, I'm just saying we have no idea why he would make a comment like that.

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

I don't get this. Government wants people to bear more and more babies, and because government wants even more people than women want to deliver they import millions of immigrants. On the other side they spend billions encouraging homosexuality. What's the point? Look at Germany - they have overwhelming levels of homosexuality and that's why Germans have basically no children at all, Turks now make children for them. Is it what the government really wants?

Yeah, and I don't like anyone that lectures me who should I like or not like.

LOL. The situation in Germany has nothing to do with "high levels of homosexuality" - speaking to a very good (German) friend of mine, he was saying that it simply became "unfashionable" in the last decade or two to have kids. People there seemed more preoccupied with improving their social status, acquiring material posessions and just going out and having fun - doing the family thing simply became less popular for a time. I'm not sure if that's still the case.

And it's probably not that there are more gay & lesbian people in Germany.. they're probably just less embarassed about showing it off because the population are more tolerant / accepting!

Besides - we arguably need more homosexuality.. world population continues to increase and we're only going to run out of room and resources if it carries on. My personal feeling is that it's a built in genetic population limiter / control.. nature trying to save us from ourselves a bit and help regulate the number of people on the planet! :)

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

My personal feeling is that it's a built in genetic population limiter / control.. nature trying to save us from ourselves a bit and help regulate the number of people on the planet! :)

yeah, it's a paradox, isn't it? The homosexuals can't reproduce, but they keep on multiplying! :laugh: (not saying it's bad)

imho pop culture is the greatest contributor:

Just a decade or two ago this video would have been banned, no doubt about it.

A nephew of mine saw this on TV and asked me who they were... I was really flabbergasted then :blink: I was totally not ready to explain this to a child.

He liked the video thou. They show everything the kids want in these videos: icecream, ipad, strawberries...

[.Neo]

I don't get this. Government wants people to bear more and more babies, and because government wants even more people than women want to deliver they import millions of immigrants. On the other side they spend billions encouraging homosexuality. What's the point? Look at Germany - they have overwhelming levels of homosexuality and that's why Germans have basically no children at all, Turks now make children for them. Is it what the government really wants?

Yeah, and I don't like anyone that lectures me who should I like or not like.

You couldn't be more ignorant if you tried. The reason why people in highly developed countries, such as Germany, have less children is because both men and women work longer. Having children isn't a necessity for various reasons like in poorer countries either, whether it's believe or work related. Next to that it's highly unlikely there are actually more homosexuals in Germany, people are just less afraid to be open about it. Fundamental difference right there.

[Wolfbane]

Apart from the whole "born gay or chose gay" issue, where in there is no consensus, what happens when we find a way to bleach the skin easily?

Then people can choose to be white. Thus will being black be wrong then?

/shrug

The school got it wrong, and it would appear the teacher was pushing an agenda. That's where the problem lies. He pushed an agenda, then punished the child for not agreeing with him on the matter.

I didn't say nobody is born gay, I said nobody is born with a sexuality. That includes hetero as well.

I also wasn't talking about whether or not it was moral, I was talking about the illogicality of the statement.

To answer your question though, the color of someone's skin doesn't change who they are, and (as a guy with pale skin) I'd say that anyone who bleaches their skin would be an idiot, as people with very pale skin are prone to skin cancer.

[Hum]

yeah, it's a paradox, isn't it? The homosexuals can't reproduce, but they keep on multiplying! :laugh: (not saying it's bad)

Umm, many gay women have had donor sperm, and gave birth to kids.

Gay men have used surrogate mothers.

[DukeEsquire]

Society conditioning children to have no independent thought.

No one has independent thought.

[Hum]

No one has independent thought.

Says who ?

What is your idea of independent thought ?

I choose to think for myself.

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

Umm, many gay women have had donor sperm, and gave birth to kids.

Gay men have used surrogate mothers.

I'm quite aware of assisted reproductive technologies. Thanks for your comment!

[Hum]

^ Welcome.

And many Bi's reproduce the natural way ! :laugh:

[Lexcyn]

?Dakota is a very well-grounded 14-year-old,? she told Fox News Radio noting that her son is an honors student. ?He?s been in church his whole life and he?s been taught to stand up for what he believes.?

I don't think those two statements go together. If you are a well grounded individual wouldn't that mean you are open minded and not prejudice towards other people who are different than you?

[ahhell]

Poor Christians...always beinig oppressed.

:rolleyes:

[jakem1]

I don't think those two statements go together. If you are a well grounded individual wouldn't that mean you are open minded and not prejudice towards other people who are different than you?

Yes, I was going to post the same thing.

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

Well-grounded isn't synonymous with open-minded. And some folks can have such open-minded personalities that they let all the junk get into their brains and start to believe all sorts of absurdities. Open-mindedness doesn't imply rationality :)

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Well-grounded isn't synonymous with open-minded. And some folks can have such open-minded personalities that they let all the junk get into their brains and start to believe all sorts of absurdities. Open-mindedness doesn't imply rationality :)

Yes, Shirley MacLaine is open minded enough to believe in astrology, ghosts, new age spirituality and occultism.

[Anibal P]

I don't think those two statements go together. If you are a well grounded individual wouldn't that mean you are open minded and not prejudice towards other people who are different than you?

Just because he stated an opinion you don't agree with does not make it prejudice or hatred or any other negative connotation you want it to have, it's a simple difference of opinions, that's the main reason the school didn't actually punish the Boy, he stated an opinion and the teacher was the one who overreacted and made a bigger deal of it that it really is

There's always going to be people that don't agree with you, I hope for your sanity you don't run around acting like they are all prejudiced or biased because of that

[jakem1]

Just because he stated an opinion you don't agree with does not make it prejudice or hatred or any other negative connotation you want it to have, it's a simple difference of opinions, that's the main reason the school didn't actually punish the Boy, he stated an opinion and the teacher was the one who overreacted and made a bigger deal of it that it really is

There's always going to be people that don't agree with you, I hope for your sanity you don't run around acting like they are all prejudiced or biased because of that

How do you positively spin a narrow-minded opinion based on an irrational, fairy-tale belief system? Of course it's prejudiced.

[ahhell]

How do you positively spin a narrow-minded opinion based on an irrational, fairy-tale belief system? Of course it's prejudiced.

Winner!

Thread over.

[Anibal P]

How do you positively spin a narrow-minded opinion based on an irrational, fairy-tale belief system? Of course it's prejudiced.

It's called an OPINION for a reason, everyone has one, if anything YOU are being prejudiced by not being open to others views and opinions

[jakem1]

It's called an OPINION for a reason, everyone has one, if anything YOU are being prejudiced by not being open to others views and opinions

Get real. His "opinion" is worthless and based on hate and ignorance. It has no value and doesn't deserve to be acknowledged. There's nothing good or redeeming about bigotry.

[Lexcyn]

Get real. His "opinion" is worthless and based on hate and ignorance. It has no value and doesn't deserve to be acknowledged. There's nothing good or redeeming about bigotry.

Agreed 100%.

His "opinion" is the same as if he said "I do not like black people." Same concept.