School Punishes Boy for Opposing Homosexuality

[seta-san]

Appalling: ap?pall?ing/??p?liNG/ Adjective: Awful; terrible

I am presuming that you have quoted my post because .... you agree with me?

As far as I know, socioeconomics refers broadly to the "use of economics in the study of society" and what it shows is that if societies are better educated and wealthy they tend to have far less children than those from poor, uneducated ones! I sincerely doubt that feminism has anything to do with it! Correct me if I am wrong!

feminism set up the ability for women to have largely carefree lives. the pill, the morning after pill, abortion, and women in the work place all heavily contribute to women not having and raising children. the poor simply less access to these products and services.

[ILikeTobacco]

Of course I have the right to question spurious and ridiculous beliefs. People, including the teacher in the classroom, also have the right to stand up to bigotry and hatred. Religion isn't a get out of gaol free card that can be used to justify hatred and discrimination.

You are missing the point. I have the right to think and say for instance, "I hate Hispanics." You have the right to question my opinion. Questioning an opinion and silencing view points are two different things. The teacher should have asked, "Why is it wrong?" The only lesson this kid has learned is that having your own thoughts/beliefs is wrong. What kind of society would we live in if all beliefs that didn't fall into the norm where silenced still? Women wouldn't be able to vote, slavery would still happen, and being gay would be socially unacceptable. The kid did nothing wrong in voicing his opinion. The teacher did everything wrong in handling it.

I personally think homosexuality is wrong and that is my opinion. As long as I am not violently acting on those opinions or forcing anyone else to share my opinion, I have every right to think that. There is nothing inherently wrong with hatred or discrimination. By definition those two works mean nothing more than not liking something and favoring one group over than other. The Americans with Disabilities Act grants me the right to discriminate against any group of people for any reason that pertains to the job I am hiring for. Saying discrimination is inherently wrong is an ignorant thing to say. In the same regards, hatred is not inherently wrong. Is it wrong to hate anyone in a terrorist organization?

Was what the kid said/believes wrong? Depends on what you believe.

Was him saying it wrong? Not unless he was trying to emotionally abuse someone that he knew was gay.

Was the teacher wrong for trying to silence instead of educate the child? No matter how you spin it, the teacher was wrong. You do not silence beliefs. End.Of.Story.

If you really want to say that him saying his opinion is wrong(which is your opinion that even the school doesn't agree with as they admitted they were wrong for what they did), then you are saying that you yourself are wrong because you are stating an opinion that may or may not line up with the actual truth.

Also the teacher has the right to stand up and correct the student, not to grandstand in front of a classroom with the purpose of humiliating him to his peers. That by definition is emotional abuse and is illegal for teachers to do.

[HSoft]

Of course it doesn't and it frightens me to think that you could even make that mistake.

Of course it does by definition. Saying otherwise shows how narrow minded some people are on the subject. It's either agree with what we say or shut up. There is no apparent middle ground.

The boy isn't allowed to say something as he's bigotted, but the schoolteacher somehow is not bigotted for not allowing the schoolboy to voice his opinion? Serious double standard.

[ILikeTobacco]

It's not socially acceptable to hate other groups for no valid reason

fixed for you. no one would argue its wrong to hate terrorists and they are a group

[Solid Knight]

It's funny how some Chrisitans seem to think that going to church makes you a good person. It doesn't. Rapists, murderers, child molesters, racists, wife-beaters, et cetera have gone to church habitually.

[Hum]

^ I remember reading on-line, about a LDS bishop, who was having sex with an underage girl.

The school should have just had a quiet talk with Dakota, asking him to not say anti-gay things in front of the class.

It should not have been a big deal.

[M_Lyons10]

It's funny how some Chrisitans seem to think that going to church makes you a good person. It doesn't. Rapists, murderers, child molesters, racists, wife-beaters, et cetera have gone to church habitually.

Yeah, I always love that. And I genuinely feel it's a minority, but you are not automatically a good person because you're church going. Hate is still hate. They just act upon it differently.

[c3ntury]

I oppose any male with the name Dakota.

Agreed. xD

[Eric Veteran]

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Again, please stick to the topic.

[Original Poster]

who gives a ****? if this person thinks homosexuality is wrong... that is what they think.... i mean some people think its right... maybe the people who think its right should also not be allowed to express it... i dont care either way if people like the same sex good for them its there own business ... what i cant believe is some one gives a **** that he is honour student?? or even about this situation

[De.Bug]

Great! Religion is not getting free reign in that school.