Woz: I Wish My iPhone Did All The Things My Android Does.

[ndoggfromhell]

I agree with this, but let's not forget that Steve is not a typical user. The majority of people don't want a phone they can "tinker" with. They want something that works reliably and with stability and consistency. I have NEVER gotten that from android. WP7 and IOS work flawlessly for me. for 3 years now i've been suffering with android, so much so that i've even rooted and installed Cyanogenmod 7 on it. So far, a better user experience coming from the stock sense ui from HTC but a far cry from the polished iOS and WP7 devices I've used. If you want to play with your phone all day and everyday to get every little thing to work... then Android is for you. If you want to set it up on day 1 and forget about it until you upgrade... forget about android.

[Belazor]

I have used Palm Garnet, Windows Phone 2002, 2003, 5, 6, 6.1, 6.5, Symbian 60v3, Droid 1.5, 2.2, 2.3, and 3 .... I prefer 2.3.4 Droid. I love the task manager (long press home key.) and the amazing availability of apps ... I would prefer standardized UI, and menus on ALL devices though.

By default in Android, long press on home key isn't task manager but list of recently opened apps, same as double-click on the Home button on my iPad 2.

I'm not saying you are wrong, as Motorola may have implemented this feature, I'm pointing it out in case others think this is default Android behaviour :)

[Miuku.]

Yeah that is why I alway recommend the iPhone for people that can't think for themselves.

Apparently you need to take a few lessons in understanding the context of what is being referred to.

What I was referring to was firmware updates, which are laughably poor when it comes to Android phones, or how do you like manufacturers dropping support for your phone 6 months into the life of it? I'm sure the fanboys will spin something "positive" from it like "You can always install a 3rd party firmware!1!1".

Sounds great and not at all retarded.

[UndergroundWire]

Apparently you need to take a few lessons in understanding the context of what is being referred to.

What I was referring to was firmware updates, which are laughably poor when it comes to Android phones, or how do you like manufacturers dropping support for your phone 6 months into the life of it? I'm sure the fanboys will spin something "positive" from it like "You can always install a 3rd party firmware!1!1".

Sounds great and not at all retarded.

OK you need to take a lesson in common sense. Most users have no idea what firmware version they are runnin. The hardcoer users know what they are running. So let's evaluate something here with Android. I am a hardcore user. I had a Droid Incredible (Released in May 2010). That phone has had firmware upgrades all the way to Gingerbread. Then I had the Thunderbolt (Released March 2011) that phone will get ICS by end of Q1 (Hmm not bad). You see hardcore users buy the higher end phones at the time of release. They have nothing to worry about.

The fanboy's you speak of (like me) are capable of installing their own roms. That is not spinning anything. Why should I care what you have when I have something better? If I am running ICS on my Thunderbolt now, I'm better than you who if you have a Thunderbolt that doesn't.

Judge a phone by the way they treat their computers. They never run updates; never have security; never upgrade the hardware. They just use it because it WORKS!

You see firmware upgrades don't matter to the average user. Sounds great because ignorance is bliss. The overall market is filled with the common user and the minority of the smartphone market are smarter than you if they can run a Custom firmware. It's a Win-Win situation here.

Judge the OS by what it is capable of doing now. What does Android have that iOS doesn't; or even Windows Phone? Start making a list and you'll see what is better for the end user.

[Growled Member]

Glad to see Woz using Android. It is always a good idea to have an open mind about things, unlike so many on the internet today.