Windows 8 not Metro enough?

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firey

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Or you could think of it as each tile can provide us with a "window" into the application. You don't have to launch the mail app to know if you have mail, activity in social apps, etc.

But you can already do that with programs, on windows xp, vista, 7, that can run in the taskbar or notification area. AND You can have 101 windows open. I use two screens, so more often than not I have atleast 2 programs running, but often more.

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remixedcat

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Look at Microsoft one I posted in original post. No allcaps there.

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And similarly with Windows 8 Tile, and WP7. These are just concepts.

now if they made it look like this I'd love it. I love the colors on that!!!!

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But you can already do that with programs, on windows xp, vista, 7, that can run in the taskbar or notification area. AND You can have 101 windows open. I use two screens, so more often than not I have atleast 2 programs running, but often more.

The desktop is still there for when you need to "power-user-it-up"

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FMH

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metro interface is good for tablets/phones etc (since you usually do a single thing there) but is not good enough for full desktop environment. IMO they should've separated the two products. I don't plan running windows8 on anything with touchscreen therefor metro is useless for me.

I'm not talking about bringing Tiles into desktop, just Metro elements. Like in these concepts.

http://www.neowin.ne...ttach_id=305444

http://www.winextra..../10/WL-Mail.png

http://farm7.static....fc90e6d44_z.jpg

http://www.winextra....y-Quickview.png

That way the interfaces would look uniform, and "one"!

now if they made it look like this I'd love it. I love the colors on that!!!!

If they would, that'll what it will look like. Because this is their actual product! It's the Zune Software for Windows.

You can download it for free, and check out the UI on your Mac or Windows.

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remixedcat

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I'm not talking about bringing Tiles into desktop, just Metro elements. Like in these concepts.

http://www.neowin.ne...ttach_id=305444

http://www.winextra..../10/WL-Mail.png

http://farm7.static....fc90e6d44_z.jpg

http://www.winextra....y-Quickview.png

That way the interfaces would look uniform, and "one"!

If they would, that'll what it will look like. Because this is their actual product! It's the Zune Software for Windows.

yah I knew it was zune... I was talking for windows explorer interface instead of boring white. LOL

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johnporter29

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Thinks people need to wait for the final product and actually use it before judging whether it's too metro or unusable or a desktop / laptop and stop heightening the negative hype that is becoming apparent over Windows 8.....

If Windows 8 fails it will be because of the FUD that's been created NOW!

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firey

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The desktop is still there for when you need to "power-user-it-up"

Which would be all the time, so I'd be doing pointless clicking every boot to go into desktop mode, and have to pray it doesn't kick me out of it. With the changed start menu... well.. not going to get into it. I don't like the blockiness that Metro is, I like the smooth, rounded, glass that aero is. Still debating on a Windows 8 install, will have to judge by the consumer preview.. but I sure hope someone can haxxor it to remove the tiles and metro elements.

I could stick with W7, but W8 is a step forward in every direction..minus the interface.. so the preformance gains I am assuming should be there.

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FMH

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A lot of people are confusing Metro with Tiles. When I say that Desktop needs to have more Metro-elements, I don't mean Tiles.

Metro could be for both, while Tile is primarily for tablets.

so why not have it disabled if there is no touchscreen? I don't have a touch screen, I don't want metro, but I want Windows 8 for the core system updates.

Zune Software has Metro. From where does it looks like that it works for touch screens. It will be very hard to use it with touch.

Metro does not equal to an interface for touch-only. Metro and Tile aren't the same thing.

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firey

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A lot of people are confusing Metro with Tiles. When I say that Desktop needs to have more Metro-elements, I don't mean Tiles.

Metro could be for both, while Tile is primarily for tablets.

Zune Software has Metro. From where does it looks like that it works for touch screens. It will be very hard to use it with touch.

Metro does not equal to an interface for touch-only. Metro and Tile aren't the same thing.

Right, but metro is the design element. Metro is what programs are supposed to look like, and metro is what the tiles are designed based on. I like Aero with it's smoothness, it's curvature, it's depth. Metro is veyr blocky and plain. Which reminds me of old linux distros, or early versions of Windows.

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greenwizard88

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OP, I was with you. Then I started using the dev preview. and I like it. It takes about a day to get used to, but really it's fantastic. The best part is how you can have 2 apps open side-by-side. I can't wait for netflix in one window, and the net in another... or AIM in a small side window and office in the larger one.

But I don't think MS needs to change anything. I think it's perfect....erm, mostly :p

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techguy77

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We don't really know how will metro work with non touch screen but if it's anything like Zune it will be terrible. If you have let's say have 100 music album and you want to browse them in Zune it is terrible. I don't see that Metro and Tiles will work at all with Desktops. Unfortunately Metro will get in a way a lot while you are on Desktop and most people are on Desktop. It seems to me that Metro/Tiles can't be disabled, tell me if i am wrong. Too bad that Windows 8 interface will be rather deal breaker (not to install it) for me even it will bring performance improvements over Windows 7. Let's wait for Consumer Preview but i am afraid that for the first time ever won't be updating Windows.

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firey

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Those have been lessened considerably in Windows 8 for Desktop.

Because they were trying to make it more metro-esque, more blocks, less curve

So, the Metro argument is based on your liking. It has nothing to with touch. Right?

It has to do with liking, and the fact the new Metro design is made FOR TOUCH. I don't use a computer for touch, I like the buttons small, I don't need them big enough for a finger or a hand to use them. I don't like things big on the desktop and scale things quite small. I lie having multiple windows open, and using the desktop as it is now. I've used the dev preview, and will use the consumer preview to get a solid understanding. As I do software development for a living, I am assuming I will end up having to support our software on Windows 8, so geting used to it will be a requirement. However I will urge our customers to use Windows 8 as a regular computer, no tiles, no touch, etc. Honestly, I'll urge them to downgrade to Windows 7 over Windows 8.

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Osiris

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I think the transition is about right, its a solid dose of metro without shoving it down consumers faces, I think MS has left plenty of room for ppl to really tone down the metro features. With that in mind it definitely goes with their post longhorn design principles of evolution not revolution.

Windows needed to change to adapt to the new technologies out there and this is the first step in a transition I believe will eventually see MS offer a consistent UI and platform across desktop,tablet, phone and to a lesser extent xbox. On the same token its a change in the OS which makes it far more accessible and usabe with touch but also kinect and speech interaction technologies.

To be honest you may as well get on board with Metro as I dont think its going anywhere and id say its just the first wave.

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justmike

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Too much Metro is Windows 8, it's a real buzzkill.

Yeah, we had far too much space on the initial desktop for whatever we wanted there. Less control and more clicks getting into the desktop space that is mostly the same is a nice touch. I would also like to scroll forever when trying to find all my work files, links, and programs. A wide bar at the top of everything I need to view is great now that everyone has wide screens, I had far too much room before, and it's already so much fun. Who needs plugins? Everything works great on IE6-9 without any "cough MS plugins". So yeah, everything should be as smooth as a porky-pines a**. :/

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I agree, It would have been better for Microsoft to go all out Metro and create a unified predictable interface.

Having said that, I see the current Windows 8 UI dichotomy like Gnome Shell/Cinnamon. It's still Gnome at the heart, but the Cinnamon shell is more traditional, while Gnome Shell is a new way of working.

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