Apple Sues Kodak, Takes Advantage of Film Giant's Poor Position

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So your argument is that, apple is going to claim they created the digital camera because they did, along with Kodak..... Umm ok...

LOL.. no.. Apple CLAIMED they did. There is no proof they did, actually quite the opposite. Since it has past 20+ years and Apple didn't have an issue with this and now they do is very telling that their involvement if there was any was most likely minimal.

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And again, no.. Kodak invented digital camera as we know it today and owns the patents. It's not one specific model they just happened to be working on with Apple. That's the difference.

Apple claims that it invented A digital camera along with Kodak and thus created a digital camera technology.

You don't seem to get the concept that no one company owns ALL of the patents that apply to digital cameras. Yes, Kodak owns a lot of them, but since Apple produced the QuickTake 100 (in cooperation with Kodak), it is quite likely that they do in fact own some patents related to it as well. Kodak started this by suing Apple over some patents that they claim Apple violated with the iPhone. Apple is suing Kodak over patents that they claim that Kodak violated.

Why is it always so hard for you to comprehend that Apple does actually own some valid patents, and is well within their rights to sue other companies when those are violated?

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Reading comprehension.

This sentence means they CREATED the digital camera along with Kodak meaning simply that they claim they created a digital camera.

Creating a digital camera and inventing digital cameras are two entirely different things. Reading comprehension, indeed.

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Apple is not claiming they invented the digital camera.

Apple and Kodak collaborated on the first consumer digital camera. Apple did a whole bunch of lab work, and some of those ideas went into the camera. Kodak then quietly patented some of those ideas that Apple cooked up in their labs.

THAT is what this is about. Apple contributed ideas, and Kodak claimed them as their own. Kodak lauched a lawsuit against Apple last month, as a desperation move to find a new revenue stream (when you can't actually run a business, sue!), and Apple today countered and said to them "Hey, remember that time that you patented our ideas behind our back...?"

But hey, don't let the actual issue at hand get in the way of blind hatred.

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...and from another source to help the ones who are having trouble comprehending.

Apple previously claimed it is the true owner of the image- preview patent that is the subject of infringement claims lodged against Apple and Research in Motion Ltd. The Cupertino, California-based company contends that it developed a digital camera in the early 1990s that it shared with Kodak, and that Kodak then sought the patent on the technology. Kodak has denied the allegations.

http://www.bloomberg...fringement.html

Again, for like the millionth time, Apple isn't claiming that they, "invented digital camera."

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Do you have proof that it's true what they Apple is claiming?

The Apple QuickTake (codenamed Venus, Mars, Neptune) was one of the first consumer digital camera lines.[1] It was launched in 1994 by Apple Computer and was marketed for three years before being discontinued in 1997. Three models of the product were built including the 100 and 150, both built by Kodak

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_QuickTake

From that it sounds like Apple definitely did partner with Kodak on some early digital cameras.

I'm still not sure what you're claiming. Do you claim that Apple is being dishonest about their involvement in early digital cameras with Kodak? You seem outraged that Apple seems to be claiming that they were involved in the creation of digital cameras with Kodak in the 90s.

Do you have any sources that say that Apple wasn't really involved to the extent that they claim?

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Apple is not claiming they invented the digital camera.

Apple and Kodak collaborated on the first consumer digital camera. Apple did a whole bunch of lab work, and some of those ideas went into the camera. Kodak then quietly patented some of those ideas that Apple cooked up in their labs.

THAT is what this is about. Apple contributed ideas, and Kodak claimed them as their own. Kodak lauched a lawsuit against Apple last month, as a desperation move to find a new revenue stream (when you can't actually run a business, sue!), and Apple today countered and said to them "Hey, remember that time that you patented our ideas behind our back...?"

But hey, don't let the actual issue at hand get in the way of blind hatred.

Steven Sasson as an engineer at Eastman Kodak invented and built the first digital camera using a charge-coupled device image sensor in 1975.[2][3] He received the National Medal in Technology and Innovation for this invention in 2009.[4]

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The simple fact remains-- (since Apple has played this card before and fair is fair)

Kodak's patent was registered first....

(there is the case of the slide to unlock) that Apple claims-- yes there was prior products using it , but we (Apple) patented it first. (along with other cases like this)

Though, If I am not mistaken-- if Kodak wanted to raise a thorn... there is a patent on color correction for visual display systems (which could translate to meaning this in worst case).... think about it-- Your next Ipad may have to be a black and white one... if Kodak wanted to be... mischievous. And I don't mean the one about the Ipod either... I mean the original patent on color correction... the one that people assume means film.. it says ... Visual Display medium... ( medium= a monitor)

and then there is always the 1962 Patent that says -- The use of a computer to correct the color displayed on a visual device.

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