official Windows 8 Consumer Preview Discussion

[King Lizzle]

7 DAYS!? Seeing how the CP was only released on Wednesday.... Do you have a time machine or something you're not telling us about? In our universe, that's only 4 days. ;)

Several doesn't mean seven - it means any small number more than two.

[jarrettwold]

Yea, I can see people not objecting to mutually exclusive modes. Where you can use Desktop *or* Metro without any hybridizing. I haven't used 8 enough at this point to see if that would be good or bad. But, that's a perfectly legitimate request.

It might not make sense due to the apps that currently exist and have been written to work well with that kind of environment, but it is important to mention that there will come a day when those apps will no longer work; there will likely be a significant change that breaks those apps at some point. It may not make sense for the Metro experience to be that change and that is why Microsoft have included the Desktop mode. What I mean, really, is that I'd like there to be no need for me to go into the Desktop mode. I'd like to be able to develop and design apps while in the Metro experience (obviously not Windows Forms apps, Java apps, or anything like that; just Metro apps and websites would be fine), among other things, and I'd like to never have to visit the Desktop experience. I'd of course have no problem with Microsoft keeping the Desktop mode, but I'd rather never have to use it to achieve the tasks I'd like.

[Calum Veteran]

As you said Callum we will agree to disagree and I am a Computer Engineer and designer.

Let's see what happens.

I agree :) Inevitably, whatever the majority of users end up preferring will probably be the direction Microsoft follow, and if that happens to lead to the Metro experience changing to my disliking come Windows "9," then so be it.

[Mazhar]

It is unnecessary to have two interfaces of Windows Update:

On the left top is Metro Windows Update. Both showing the same download.

[dafin0]

It is unnecessary to have two interfaces of Windows Update:

On the left top is Metro Windows Update. Both showing the same download.

its for people who want to use desktop

like i keep saying, YOU CAN USE BOTH, its not one or the other... this is whats good about it.

the more i read what complainers say the more i get sick of them (not talking about you Mazhaz). if you want your multi screen setup and all the rest use the desktop NOTHING is stopping you at all. its no hard to understand

[Mazhar]

its for people who want to use desktop

like i keep saying, YOU CAN USE BOTH, its not one or the other... this is whats good about it.

the more i read what complainers say the more i get sick of them (not talking about you Mazhaz). if you want your multi screen setup and all the rest use the desktop NOTHING is stopping you at all. its no hard to understand

The point I have been making is "Why Two interfaces" for the same program? Why not just ONE?

[dafin0]

The point I have been making is "Why Two interfaces" for the same program? Why not just ONE?

because some people will want to view it metro style (tablets and what not) and some will want to view it in a desktop style.

both view have there pros and cons but in the end its about giving the user choice and having these choices doesnt get in the road of each other.

[Muhammad Farrukh]

The point I have been making is "Why Two interfaces" for the same program? Why not just ONE?

They cannot just make the whole shift towards Metro in one version of their Operating System.

Sure, I agree, but what they are doing is the right approach and they know what they are doing.

Some people will prefer the new layout, some will still want to stick with the old one. They cannot just force everyone to use the new one overnight.

It'll take time

[delete]

It isn't "a lot" faster. One can get to another window with a keyboard shortcut almost as fast; thus, productivity is not lost.

What a crack up.

Saccades are amongst the fastest if not the fastest movements the human body is capable of.

The time taken for hand movement is around ten times longer. And that is just for simple movements, not the kind of complex movement required to access a shortcut. It also does not include the time taken by the OS.

That is not almost as fast.

It is a lot slower.

Hence, inefficient.

[Muhammad Farrukh]

Anyone got an ETA on when they'll send the fix for this Sign In Error?

[Muhammad Farrukh]

Now this thing is certainly interesting.

Instead of having separate windows for each operation, they are showing it in one single window.

A huge thumbs up (Y)

[techguy77]

It is unnecessary to have two interfaces of Windows Update:

On the left top is Metro Windows Update. Both showing the same download.

This screenshot represents everything that is wrong with Windows 8. Just rubbish.

[Muhammad Farrukh]

This screenshot represents everything that is wrong with Windows 8. Just rubish.

First you guys are raging about how there should be choice.

And now that they are giving it to you, you are saying it is Rubbish.

Figures

[techguy77]

I can't describe how much I dislike that way of working. Juggling between many different open windows, having to look around on the screen for the one you want, having to move on window out of the way just to get to another one . . . is just inefficient. It also looks incredibly ugly compared to having two Metro apps with no chrome open. Chrome is horrible,

Perhaps you should change profession :)

First you guys are raging about how there should be choice.

And now that they are giving it to you, you are saying it is Rubbish.

Figures

That is not a choice. That is called bull**** beyond comedy. Just look at the screenshot how unnatural that **** looks. Completely two different designs slapped together like putting Ferrari Engine into Chevy Malibu. it is really sad that all performance improvements in Windows 8 are ruined with UI. Such a deal breaker.

[Aaron Olive]

finally solved the dimming issue on the iMac's, by turning off the adaptive brightness settings it won't dim the display automatically anymore.

[Another Canuck]

Anyone got an ETA on when they'll send the fix for this Sign In Error?

Which sign in error?

[Muhammad Farrukh]

Which sign in error?

Can't sign in, in apps like Maps, Music, e.t.c

[bogas04]

Now this thing is certainly interesting.

Instead of having separate windows for each operation, they are showing it in one single window.

A huge thumbs up (Y)

it was in wdp too :D

[Muhammad Farrukh]

Didn't noticed it in DP

[Muhammad Farrukh]

Is it just me, or the CPU is going crazy?

Randomly spiking up to 99%, when I am just browsing

[Mazhar]

I do not think we need to pin items in Desktop Taskbar now if we are using the Start Screen. What you guys think?

[bogas04]

I do not think we need to pin items in Desktop Taskbar now if we are using the Start Screen. What you guys think?

that's why i have auto hidden the taskbar , i get as my screen state as a metro app gives now \m/

Is it just me, or the CPU is going crazy?

Randomly spiking up to 99%, when I am just browsing

same here , i am not satisfied with my proccy performance , thermal levels are high. Also i noticed Mail app is a resource eater!

[Guest]

Theres a few more scrolling inconsistencies that annoy me in metro too. They're in apps and I understand that it's up to the developer to make their apps but one of them, "cookbook" won a Microsoft contest!

In cookbook, scrolling is reversed. Down is up, up is down, left is right, right scrolls left. That'd be fine if it were true OS wide which it isn't.

Also I have a trackpad with multitouch scrolling in both directions. In Microsoft's own weather app, you can only scroll left and right. There's a part in the centre of the scrollable area which you should be able to scroll vertically though. It doesn't work though, even moving the cursor over this area and scrolling still moves the overall content left and right. I know this will probably be fixed by rtm but seriously?! They've had months and months to fix that, the app has existed since DP and it's hardly even a particularly complex app for getting rid of rather large bugs like that.

I think interestingly, this is a bug that would have been overlooked if they were primarily testing it on touch based devices.

[Muhammad Farrukh]

same here , i am not satisfied with my proccy performance , thermal levels are high. Also i noticed Mail app is a resource eater!

This is actually pretty weird.

Until last night and one something hour into this morning, it was fine, but I don't know what happened, it suddenly started to spike up.

Strangely, when you pull up the Task Manager, its gone. Back to normal :wacko:

[Guest]

same here , i am not satisfied with my proccy performance , thermal levels are high. Also i noticed Mail app is a resource eater!

I don't know about you but I've installed win8 on one of my older machines, a 1.6ghz core2duo with 2gb of ram. It's nothing amazing but I honestly expected windows 8 to run faster and smoother with it expected to be running on some lower and hardware commercially soon. It runs like crap at times! The hard drives are constantly working, you can hear them but when I check out task manager, the most any single app is using at that time is 1mb read/write. Can't see anything in the error log to indicate a dodgy drive so it's a mystery!