freak180 Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 +Zlip792 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted May 22, 2012 Veteran Share Posted May 22, 2012 I still think the default Start Screen is ugly as sin. I really wish Microsoft would focus on creating an attractive OoBE. Too many mis matched colors. That is my main gripe with Windows 8 at the moment; however, I haven't been able to find a Start Screen configuration I'm happy with yet :( I enjoy the light grey theme in the Consumer Preview, but the tiles for the built-in apps come in around six different colours, and no matter what combination of those I try, in terms of placing them on the Start Screen, it just doesn't look right/good. Microsoft must make some improvements, I think, before I'm happy with how the Start Screen looks. Allowing us to select different tile colours might be a start, even if that means the tile is a different colour to the app. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 i have two grips with Start screen 1- small logo for desktop program, they look ugly :( 2- can't drag multiple item to new group :s Then i can die happy with Windows 8 ;) Sszecret 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 8400 is the public build coming this June, right? If so, I guess it's the last time we'll ever see Aero Glass... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ^ Yes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Somebody talking about Start Screen colors being too different and stuff. Its because they are using colors of different intensities.If MS restrict the intensities of every color it would look super!.. intensity I mean saturation. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerFan Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I still think the default Start Screen is ugly as sin. I really wish Microsoft would focus on creating an attractive OoBE. Too many mis matched colors. Completely agreed. It truly is fugly so far; it's not just a matter of getting used to a new look. And for the average user who will never customize their start screen, it's going to remain the default fugliness for the life of the user's system. It will just grow wider and wider. Calum 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 @ all people complaining... how many hours do you spend customizing your OS ? seems all you "artists" want is just flashy **** aero was really just a waste of resources. do you really need some transparency to see what windows is under your current window. im sure there will be some way for you "artists" to turn aero back on with some 3rd party app. just like there is some 3rd party app to bring back the start button. i really just laugh at all you people that spend hours customizing your OS. do you all freak out when you get on your friends machine too ? Why do you care how people want to use their own PC? If people spent ?1000~ on a PC and ?100~ on Windows who are you to chastise them, if they want flashy glass and no plain metro crap then that's what they want, being condescending doesn't make you right. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Why do you care how people want to use their own PC? If people spent ?1000~ on a PC and ?100~ on Windows who are you to chastise them, if they want flashy glass and no plain metro crap then that's what they want, being condescending doesn't make you right. While I agree that there's no need to attack people who like to customise Windows he does have a point. Microsoft's main goal shouldn't be to satisfy modders as they represent a tiny number of people. Instead, they should be working to build a stable OS that is easy for the majority to use. If that means sacrificing a legacy UI then so be it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak180 Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Everyone, Since RTM is mostly UI changes, than its safe to say that we can extract the resources from RP to make a aero based theme for RTM oliver182 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda X Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Everyone, Since RTM is mostly UI changes, than its safe to say that we can extract the resources from RP to make a aero based theme for RTM From the looks of it they're going to use the new MSStyles (has new properties) so it might not be that easy. We'll have to wait and see, but either way someone will get to it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OOOOOOOO Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I'm loving the straight corners are coming back. Rounded was just awful. Especially on XP where they weren't aliased. You mean where they were aliased. If they weren't aliased, they'd be anti-aliased ... smoothed. Aliased means they were hard edges with no softer alpha info in the pixels. :) oliver182 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 also if I remember correctly those files were bitmaps. In vista the graphic files are majority .pngs (alpha channel ones). There was this pink thing in XP bitmaps which I think meant 100% transparency so in a way they could be anti-aliased. What we need is smoother graphics for small and old icons. And guys open the Store app in CP and look closely at the back button. It is not anti-aliased. So .......... (clumsy MS). Also a small thing which I don't think will be fixed. (when you load an app, The loading circles aren't sharp enough). They seem to be designed at a lower resolution than in what they display. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Everyone, Since RTM is mostly UI changes, than its safe to say that we can extract the resources from RP to make a aero based theme for RTM Where did you read that Aero was off from Windows 8 RTM? So far we only know that the default theme will be "metro like", nothing more, nothing less. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted May 22, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted May 22, 2012 Where did you read that Aero was off from Windows 8 RTM? So far we only know that the default theme will be "metro like", nothing more, nothing less. I believe he's mostly referring to the aero glass Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak180 Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 I believe he's mostly referring to the aero glass Yep! That's exactly what I was referring to. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 8400 is the public build coming this June, right? If so, I guess it's the last time we'll ever see Aero Glass... The current (or very similar) Windows 8 Aero theme could very well still be included. It just won't be the default. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted May 22, 2012 Global Moderator Share Posted May 22, 2012 From the looks of it they're going to use the new MSStyles (has new properties) so it might not be that easy. We'll have to wait and see, but either way someone will get to it. In time that will get cracked just like it was for XP, I honestly think it's better NOT to have glass take up most of the window chrome, this way you can get people to make more themes like during XPs first 4-5 years. Anyone remember apps like StylesXP iirc? Basically a glorified theme manager. I must have tried 20+ different themes when I used XP back then before I found a nice dark gray one I liked and stayed with. When Vista and then 7 showed up and glass took over all that theming, afaik, seems to have died with it. I don't think anyone is willing to switch to Aero basic and then run a theme seeing how you lose features in the process (like the thumbnail previews on the taskbar etc). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594880957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 You mean where they were aliased. If they weren't aliased, they'd be anti-aliased ... smoothed. Aliased means they were hard edges with no softer alpha info in the pixels. :) XP had the hard edges though, which is what I was trying to say. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594881267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I believe he's mostly referring to the aero glass My comment was about Aero Glass. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594881465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Windows 8 Enterprise :whistle: : Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594889533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
strelok1911 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 WTF ^ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594889537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted May 26, 2012 Veteran Share Posted May 26, 2012 WTF ^ The build is real, but the start menu is software developed by Win8China. http://www.win8china.com/html/902.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594889545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 The build is real, but the start menu is software developed by Win8China. http://www.win8china.com/html/902.html Awww. I was wondering how long it was going to go until someone figured it out. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594889549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
strelok1911 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 The build is real, but the start menu is software developed by Win8China. http://www.win8china.com/html/902.html Thanks god! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1067818-windows-8-rc-to-get-flatter-explorer-ui-other-changes/page/14/#findComment-594889557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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