Do you (still?) find bringing up Charms with mouse to be clumsy/difficult?


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Charms and/or the Switcher work nice and fluid for me. I use a "swooping/swinging" motion as well. There's no impediment to the user, perceived or otherwise. Although, some may argue the "perception is reality" adage. Once you become accustomed to it, it's like second nature.

The majority of my time since RP is spent on the Metro side. Now, let me qualify this by saying, I work with a number of desktop app, but I launch all of them from the Start Screen. I use the Metro web browser a ton more than the desktop browser. Switching tabs is certainly faster in the desktop, but again once you acclimate, it's pretty fast in IE Metro too. Since, all my news readers, Tweetro, and things I use all day are on the Metro side, using IE Metro keeps me in one environment the entire time.

Although, I must say that going from desktop to Start Screen isn't really an issue. Especially, considering I'm in snapped mode 90% of the time. I wish individual desktop apps would appear in the Switcher. Ah well. Overall, I find 8 a pleasure to use and like it much better than 7, and certainly its potential.

I'm used to opening up the start menu or whatever by just winkey+start-typing so charms bar is not that much of a hassle since it's just winkey+c (although I don't think corners are too much of a hassle since you don't need to 'target' it. You only need to go all the way to the corner and down.

I find myself trying to trigger it on Windows 7. Needless to say, it's becoming second nature.

Same, but that doesn't mean it's not clumsy. On multi-monitor systems you have to make sure you hit the catchment area, then when moving the mouse to trigger it you have to be careful to move vertically or else it will disappear - there is reasonable margin but it becomes more of an issue when you're trying to do it quickly. The biggest problem is that you can lose track of the cursor on the second monitor, which is especially problematic if the display isn't immediately next to the first (I have a HDTV connected at a 90 degree angle for watching media). I've adapted to it as best I can but it's still not a good UI element.

Same, but that doesn't mean it's not clumsy. On multi-monitor systems you have to make sure you hit the catchment area, then when moving the mouse to trigger it you have to be careful to move vertically or else it will disappear - there is reasonable margin but it becomes more of an issue when you're trying to do it quickly. The biggest problem is that you can lose track of the cursor on the second monitor, which is especially problematic if the display isn't immediately next to the first (I have a HDTV connected at a 90 degree angle for watching media). I've adapted to it as best I can but it's still not a good UI element.

I only have one monitor running at the moment 42" HDTV. Are you running the RP? Thought it was supposed to have better multi-monitor support.

I only have one monitor running at the moment 42" HDTV. Are you running the RP? Thought it was supposed to have better multi-monitor support.

It does. The multi monitor support in the RP is phenomenal, but it is a bit quirky yet. It's getting there.

I only have one monitor running at the moment 42" HDTV. Are you running the RP? Thought it was supposed to have better multi-monitor support.

I'm running the RP but to be honest it created as many problems as it solved. For instance, dragging a Metro apps off the edge of a screen automatically maximises it to the next screen; the new corner catches don't recognise Aero Snap; opening the Start screen moves onto that monitor any Metro apps running on another monitor (meaning if you have two screens you can't run Metro apps on both screens). The changes were poorly thought through.

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