mudslag Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 in science there is no such thing as 100% certainty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiranui Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Higgs Boson walks into a church. The priest comes up to him and says, "I'm afraid your kind is not welcome here". Higgs Boson replies, "But, without me, you can't have mass..." Alera and Glassed Silver 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted July 12, 2012 Subscriber¹ Share Posted July 12, 2012 in science there is no such thing as 100% certainty Of course, there's! It's called quantitatively analyzed empirical evidence! Put an apple into a basket, add another one, and you'll be 100% certain the sum is two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Of course, there's! It's called quantitatively analyzed empirical evidence! Put an apple into a basket, add another one, and you'll be 100% certain the sum is two. What if there is another apple growing within one of them? Or if you cover the basket? There is no scientific way of knowing whether you have two apples or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Of course, there's! It's called quantitatively analyzed empirical evidence! Put an apple into a basket, add another one, and you'll be 100% certain the sum is two. Unless multiverse. I'm surprised how much press the Higgs-Boson is getting. We all know mass exists, and while explaining how it exists is a valuable scientific pursuit, and the large hadron collider is pretty-nifty... none of this has much relevance to the average person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted July 13, 2012 Member Share Posted July 13, 2012 Higgs Boson walks into a church. The priest comes up to him and says, "I'm afraid your kind is not welcome here". Higgs Boson replies, "But, without me, you can't have mass..." Are you kin to warwagon? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm surprised how much press the Higgs-Boson is getting. We all know mass exists, and while explaining how it exists is a valuable scientific pursuit, and the large hadron collider is pretty-nifty... none of this has much relevance to the average person. The Higgs field gives matter mass. In the future, we could invent technology to alter the Higgs field around an object, therefore decreasing it's mass. The immediate usefulness of this to the average person is staggering. You could have gloves that reduce the mass of the object you're picking up, therefore allowing you to lift heavy items. We could reduce the mass of cars, therefore allowing them to accelerate using very little fuel. We could reduce the mass of spacecraft, meaning we could easily accelerate to light speed and fly to distant planets in a matter of hours. Did you know WiFi came about from research into black holes? And that the GPS used to navigate your car couldn't exist without Einstein's theory of general relativity, which describes gravity. Who knows what understanding the Higgs boson could do for the average person in the next decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The Higgs field gives matter mass. In the future, we could invent technology to alter the Higgs field around an object, therefore decreasing it's mass. The immediate usefulness of this to the average person is staggering. You could have gloves that reduce the mass of the object you're picking up, therefore allowing you to lift heavy items. We could reduce the mass of cars, therefore allowing them to accelerate using very little fuel. We could reduce the mass of spacecraft, meaning we could easily accelerate to light speed and fly to distant planets in a matter of hours. Did you know WiFi came about from research into black holes? And that the GPS used to navigate your car couldn't exist without Einstein's theory of general relativity, which describes gravity. Who knows what understanding the Higgs boson could do for the average person in the next decade. That's a bit of a stretch, there. WiFi comes from an understanding of radio waves, albeit it's application was derived while looking for black holes. GPS I'll give you, but our current understanding of black holes and Einstein's theory of relativity came from observation, not manipulation. Even if we find the Higgs boson, manipulating it's properties is exponentially more difficult. I'm not denouncing science, and I'm not saying we shouldn't study these things, I'm just surprised how much press this is getting compared to any of the hundreds of experiments being run right now that will have real world impact in our lifetimes. Honestly, I think it has something to do with people still believing that the LHC will create a black hole, or a perverse desire to see things smash together at nearly the speed of light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 That's a bit of a stretch, there. WiFi comes from an understanding of radio waves, albeit it's application was derived while looking for black holes. GPS I'll give you, but our current understanding of black holes and Einstein's theory of relativity came from observation, not manipulation. Even if we find the Higgs boson, manipulating it's properties is exponentially more difficult. I'm not denouncing science, and I'm not saying we shouldn't study these things, I'm just surprised how much press this is getting compared to any of the hundreds of experiments being run right now that will have real world impact in our lifetimes. Honestly, I think it has something to do with people still believing that the LHC will create a black hole, or a perverse desire to see things smash together at nearly the speed of light. Ah, I thought you were being another one of those naive "why are we spending so much time and money on this when it has zero relevance to my every day life" type of people, my mistake. I think it has gained a lot of hype, mostly thanks to the media. The black hole concerns over the LHC were definitely good doomsday-grabbing headlines back in the day, and naming it the "God"-particle I have no doubt was a marketing tactic by the media to lure the religious crowd in to reading the articles. So yeah, it's probably gained a lot more attention in the widespread community than any other scientific discovery would have, but I think that's a good thing. Too many people take stuff like this, and the technology that eventually arises from it, for granted. And regarding WiFi, well my point was more to do with the fact that if someone hadn't been poking around in the sky studying black holes, who knows how long it would've taken for WiFi to emerge. And I'm sure people back in the day proclaimed that studying black holes would have no immediate advantage to everyday life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Of course, there's! It's called quantitatively analyzed empirical evidence! Put an apple into a basket, add another one, and you'll be 100% certain the sum is two. Not sure if science or math..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebor Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I expect force fields, hover cars and general awesomeness from now on. However I also recognise that this needs exploring futher, nice work CERN (Y) Oh and of course Zero Point energy/guns ala Half Life 2 could now be within reach :cool: awww yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassed Silver Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 So does McDonalds. Gold comment right there. Best funny post I've seen on Neowin in a long long while. :laugh: Glassed Silver:mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Higgs Boson walks into a church. The priest comes up to him and says, "I'm afraid your kind is not welcome here". Higgs Boson replies, "But, without me, you can't have mass..." The Higgs Boson jokes bandwagon... who hasn't Lepton? Daveski 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassed Silver Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Higgs Boson walks into a church. The priest comes up to him and says, "I'm afraid your kind is not welcome here". Higgs Boson replies, "But, without me, you can't have mass..." I don't know... usually that joke would be lame, but I adore it! :D Glassed Silver:mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted July 13, 2012 Subscriber¹ Share Posted July 13, 2012 Not sure if science or math..... Is math not science? imho it's the most essential and the purest branch of sciences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Higgs Boson walks into a church. The priest comes up to him and says, "I'm afraid your kind is not welcome here". Higgs Boson replies, "But, without me, you can't have mass..." Okay, that's pretty damn epic. :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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