Apple targets more Samsung products in patent suit

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http://www.reuters.c...E88001020120901

(Reuters) - Seeking to capitalize on a major legal victory over its rival Samsung Electronics Ltd, Apple Inc has asked a federal court in a separate case to find that four additional Samsung products, including the Galaxy S III, infringe Apple's patents.

In February, Apple alleged that at least 17 Samsung products infringe its patents. In a court filing made in San Jose federal court on Friday, Apple added four more products to the list of allegedly infringing products that have been released beginning in August 2011 and continuing through this month.

Apple won a major victory over Samsung last Friday in a separate case when a jury found that the South Korean company had copied critical features of the hugely popular iPhone and iPad and awarded the U.S. company $1.05 billion in damages.

Samsung representatives did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The case is U.S. District Court, Northern District of California, Apple Inc v. Samsung Electronics Ltd, et al 12-00630.

(Reporting by Andrew Longstreth; Editing by Richard Chang)

ibet i know one that they are going after

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1329077/261.pdf

[Growled Member]

Apple is going nuclear over this. They may yet regret doing so.

[dfuk]

here we go again. i wonder if they will make a person with no idea of what prior art really means, it doesn't mean that the software from the old equipment must be able to run on the new item and vise versa for the prior art to be valid, which seems to be the case with the last trial, forman interview BBC website http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-19425052

Prior art was considered.

But the stipulation under the law is for the prior art to be sufficient to negate or invalidate Apple's patents in this case, it had to be sufficiently similar or, more importantly, it had to be interchangeable.

And in example after example, when we put it to the test, the older prior art was just that. Not that there's anything [wrong] with older prior art - but the key was that the hardware was different, the software was an entirely different methodology, and the more modern software could not be loaded onto the older example and be run without error.

So we all will see what cr@p the lawyers come out with this time and as usual the only people to benefit will be the lawyers.

Also worth a look http://nipclaw.blogspot.co.uk/

[techbeck]

http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/31/3284223/apple-accuses-four-more-samsung-devices-infringement

• Galaxy S III
  
• Galaxy S III (Verizon)
  
• Galaxy Note
  
• Galaxy S II Skyrocket
  
• Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch
  
• Galaxy S II
  
• Galaxy S II (T-Mobile)
  
• Galaxy S II (AT&T)
  
• Galaxy Nexus,
  
• Illusion
  
• Captivate Glide
  
• Exhibit II 4G
  
• Stratosphere
  
• Transform Ultra
  
• Admire
  
• Conquer 4G
  
• Dart
  
• Galaxy Player 4.0
  
• Galaxy Player 5.0
  
• Galaxy Note 10.1
  
• Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus
  
• Galaxy Tab 8.9
  

Looks like Google may be getting involved. Depending on how much they had to do with the Galaxy Nexus design...which looks NOTHING like the iPhone.

[benthebear]

Looks like Google may be getting involved. Depending on how much they had to do with the Galaxy Nexus design...which looks NOTHING like the iPhone.

Agreed about the looks. Me thinks it not about that, though. But if it is, they're dumb.

I guess someone at Apple realized that they got a bunch of Samsung devices in the hot seat that were fading away from existence, and they were like, "OH SHEET!"

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new it was a matter of time before the SGS3 was on the list looks NOTHING like and iphone

[techbeck]

http://www.appleinsi..._complaint.html

The four new patents Apple is leveraging against Samsung include the '647 "Data Detectors" patent, the '721 "Slide-to-unlock" property, the '172 "Word completion" invention and the '604 "Universal search" patent. The Cupertino tech giant successfully wielded the '721 "Data Detectors" patent to obtain an ITC sales ban against certain Android-based HTC handsets in December, however Google continued to implement the feature in its mobile operating system despite the suit's outcome.

Slide to unlock looks WAY different. I knew this would just open Apple up for more lawsuits and patent trolling. Just waiting on them to go after other companies now since the same slide to unlock feature is available on all androids.

Agreed about the looks. Me thinks it not about that, though. But if it is, they're dumb.

I guess someone at Apple realized that they got a bunch of Samsung devices in the hot seat that were fading away from existence, and they were like, "OH SHEET!"

This one doesnt appear to be about trade dress.

[Kondrath]

Years from now, this should be turned into an anime like DBZ. Apple will be the main villain, and then it'll be up to Samsung, Microsoft, and Google to combine their powers and save the earth.

[techbeck]

And speaking of slide to unlock....love how now iOS 5 you can access the camera from swiping to the right from the lock screen. Something that has been part of Android for years.

[Xerxes]

I can't help but laugh at the irony of this though, Samsung designed the S3 [best they could] to avoid Apple patent lawsuits, including reworking the TouchWiz UI. Yet, Apple still sues....to me this has nothing todo with patents and is personal. Apple wants Samsung out the picture, permanently. That is my take.

[techbeck]

I can't help but laugh at the irony of this though, Samsung designed the S3 [best they could] to avoid Apple patent lawsuits, including reworking the TouchWiz UI. Yet, Apple still sues....to me this has nothing todo with patents and is personal. Apple wants Samsung out the picture, permanently. That is my take.

Its not so much about the hardware design as it is the software. AT least thats what I read on a couple sites. And now they are attacking the GNEX which is a Google phone so you can bet Google will be getting involved if their current talks do not work out.

[Praetor]

Slide to unlock looks WAY different. I knew this would just open Apple up for more lawsuits and patent trolling. Just waiting on them to go after other companies now since the same slide to unlock feature is available on all androids.

This one doesnt appear to be about trade dress.

Patent 172 is utter crap, Apple invented T9? are you kidding me??

And speaking of slide to unlock....love how now iOS 5 you can access the camera from swiping to the right from the lock screen. Something that has been part of Android for years.

and the notification system as well. like many said Apple can copy and it's fine but when other do? sue them!

[Xerxes]

Its not so much about the hardware design as it is the software. AT least thats what I read on a couple sites. And now they are attacking the GNEX which is a Google phone so you can bet Google will be getting involved if their current talks do not work out.

Ah ok. Google are getting involved, they are preparing a lawsuit of their own directly against Apple. Apple wants "thermonuclear war" with Google? well Google are arming their nukes...

[abandonedaccount]

Patent 172 is utter crap, Apple invented T9? are you kidding me??

and the notification system as well. like many said Apple can copy and it's fine but when other do? sue them!

But since Android is open source Apple can steal whatever they want?

[Xerxes]

But since Android is open source Apple can steal whatever they want?

The problem is worse then that. The problem is the other companies are not smart enough to patent their own ideas (because at the time they didn't see the potential) and Apple roll by, steal it and patent it as their own, suing anyone (including the original owner) for using it. Apple get away with it because they a) own the patent and b) were allowed to patent it. That is overly simplified of cause but my take on it (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

[techbeck]

If for some crazy reason Apple wins this, this will make it so Apple can go after every maker of Android. Some of these patents they are suing over are present in all Android devices.

Really hope the new iPhone has LTE and Samsung finds a way to fight back. This clearly isnt about protecting ones property like many claim, including Apple. It is about suing the competition. Apple is not hurting one bit, but they play the victim well. I am sure they will wine and cry FRAND this and FRAND that...but again, Apple plays the victim well. As long as they get what they want, they are fine. Like a spoiled kid.

And people like competition. This is proven every day. If Android wasnt around, then some other device would be around giving Apple a run for their money. Imagine if there was only Apple. They could charge you what they want, with as many features as they want, and you would have to accept it.

Apple has legitimate claims in many cases, but leave the silly/petty **** out of it.

Ah ok. Google are getting involved, they are preparing a lawsuit of their own directly against Apple.

Is Google suing currently or talking/trying to work it out with Apple. Last time I saw they were meeting with Apple to try and resolve their issues.

[Growled Member]

I can't help but laugh at the irony of this though, Samsung designed the S3 [best they could] to avoid Apple patent lawsuits, including reworking the TouchWiz UI. Yet, Apple still sues....to me this has nothing todo with patents and is personal. Apple wants Samsung out the picture, permanently. That is my take.

They probably are allowing Steve Jobs to still influence them too much. It was personal to Jobs.

[Xerxes]

If for some crazy reason Apple wins this, this will make it so Apple can go after every maker of Android. Some of these patents they are suing over are present in all Android devices.

Really hope the new iPhone has LTE and Samsung finds a way to fight back. This clearly isnt about protecting ones property like many claim, including Apple. It is about suing the competition. Apple is not hurting one bit, but they play the victim well. I am sure they will wine and cry FRAND this and FRAND that...but again, Apple plays the victim well. As long as they get what they want, they are fine. Like a spoiled kid.

And people like competition. This is proven every day. If Android wasnt around, then some other device would be around giving Apple a run for their money. Imagine if there was only Apple. They could charge you what they want, with as many features as they want, and you would have to accept it.

Apple has legitimate claims in many cases, but leave the silly/petty **** out of it.

Is Google suing currently or talking/trying to work it out with Apple. Last time I saw they were meeting with Apple to try and resolve their issues.

Yes, currently it's just talks at this stage. However, I have little faith at this stage of it ending amicably...

[techbeck]

Yes, currently it's just talks at this stage. However, I have little faith at this stage of it ending amicably...

Especially when Apple asks 30-40 bucks per device. But its Apple so thats fair pricing....

[nub]

Why is this happening? Apple should just be laughed out of court.

[Boz]

Why is this happening? Apple should just be laughed out of court.

Because the notion is that Apple is a GREAT American company that is the mother of all modern computer innovations (delusional), but mostly because Apple stock at the moment is very influential over the state of NASDAQ so A LOT of people including the justice system will lean Apple's way.

Ironic though, cause Samsung is more of an American company today considering they have manufacturing in US than Apple. Apple is an American company only on paper, their practices, production and money all basically go out of US.

[neo158]

I really wish Samsung would tell Apple to **** off and find someone else to manufacture parts for them, I know Samsung would lose money but it's the only way that Apple will learn. As someone else has already said, this isn't about Apple protecting their IP any more they want Samsung gone, out of the market permanently. If this isn't anti-competitive I don't know what is.

[.Neo]

It would be hilarious if the phones of both companies end up being banned.

[neo158]

It would be hilarious if the phones of both companies end up being banned.

If I remember correctly they did in South Korea, didn't they?

[.Neo]

I really wish Samsung would tell Apple to **** off and find someone else to manufacture parts for them, I know Samsung would lose money but it's the only way that Apple will learn. As someone else has already said, this isn't about Apple protecting their IP any more they want Samsung gone, out of the market permanently. If this isn't anti-competitive I don't know what is.

Investors would then tell Samsung to "**** off" themselves. Apple moves on to other manufacturers, something they're already in process of doing.