Wii U Firmware 2.0.0

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

Ouch. It just keeps getting worse for Nintendo it seems.

Not sure if I'm just living under a gaming rock but I didn't even realise the Wii-U had been released! :|

[+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹]

Good job it's not apple, or you would have to pay them for the update as it adds new features from vanilla settings.

[Teebor]

Ouch. It just keeps getting worse for Nintendo it seems.

Not sure if I'm just living under a gaming rock but I didn't even realise the Wii-U had been released! :|

Ha not just you :)

However this is only the US release I believe. No idea when Europe are getting it

[REM2000]

i think the main problem with be christmas, the internet is gonnna get hit a mass update on christmas morning, that along with games that require an update (i.e. kiddies unwrapping COD BO2 etc..) i hope the ISP's can keep up.

[tsupersonic]

5GB will not take much time at all to download on a 20Mbps connection. At peak speeds, no more than 35-40 mins. Hardly a 'long time'.

Which is why I said the word ADVERTISED. It is advertised from the ISP at 20 Mbps, I don't get that. If I tether my phone, I can get faster throughput at 30-35 Mbps (woohoo Verizon LTE)

[testman]

ISPs. :p

[Wakers]

4 hours tops? What planet do these people live on?

The vast majority of people won't be able to download 5GB in 8 hours, let alone 4!

[torrentthief]

I'm surprised people are criticising this to be honest. Of course you will brick your console if you yank the power cable out. Do this when you are updating your motherboard bios and that will happen too.

As for not having software ready on shipped devices, you do realise nintendo have more orders than consoles, right? They are working 24/7 to mass produce them. If they decided to update them before shipping then there would be a tiny number of consoles available to purchase which would mean millions of children crying their eyes out on christmas morning when father christmas hasn't brought them their wii u. I'd rather update the software on christmas eve then wrap it up for a kid on christmas morning than have no console for christmas morning.

5GB is very large, i wonder if they could have improved the compression to reduce the size a little. Hopefully some retailers might update the firmware before they ship the consoles that way there is no problem.

[Rudy]

4 hours tops? What planet do these people live on?

The vast majority of people won't be able to download 5GB in 8 hours, let alone 4!

Took about 45 mins here, and I'm guessing the slow end was Nintendo because they were getting hammered. Mind you I am far from having the fastest connection available here

[Tarvis123]

From reports on other forums, the download is around 1GB, but when installed takes up 5GB of space.

Hope it's not 5GB, as I only have a 5MB connection, but I guess I will find out when I get home unless UPS messes up my delivery.

[neufuse Veteran]

You're right. The 8GB model has approximately 3GB for "data storage and downloads". And the 32GB model has 25GB.

As for the 5GB firmware update, I find it odd that Nintendo is making people download so much data. I don't have a Wii U but I imagine the download is less than 5GB and it overwrites existing data.

how long before the lawsuits start "my 8GB system only has 3GB of storage!!!!!! OMGZ!!!!!"

Took about 45 mins here, and I'm guessing the slow end was Nintendo because they were getting hammered. Mind you I am far from having the fastest connection available here

something is always slow on Nintendo's end... heck on my Wii when I download a SNES game it for some reason takes 5 minutes! on a 50Mbit connection! why?!!!! I've had this problem from day one on my Wii still exists to this day!

[Blackhearted]

4 hours tops? What planet do these people live on?

The vast majority of people won't be able to download 5GB in 8 hours, let alone 4!

Now i know the US(the only country the wii u is released in so far) lags behind many other countries in internet speed, but even here it's not as bad as "most people having 1.5mbps connections" like you're trying to say.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

how long before the lawsuits start "my 8GB system only has 3GB of storage!!!!!! OMGZ!!!!!"

It'd be frivolous. The Wii U isn't the first console to do this. But even though that is the case, I wouldn't be surprised if some people filed a lawsuit for not getting all 8GB.

something is always slow on Nintendo's end... heck on my Wii when I download a SNES game it for some reason takes 5 minutes! on a 50Mbit connection! why?!!!! I've had this problem from day one on my Wii still exists to this day!

I think it's because the loading bar includes the installation time as well as the download. Either that, or the server was slow for you.

[neufuse Veteran]

Now i know the US(the only country the wii u is released in so far) lags behind many other countries in internet speed, but even here it's not as bad as "most people having 1.5mbps connections" like you're trying to say.

39% of the country has access to 105Mbit DOCSIS3 connections now on Comcast alone (the largest ISP in the country), over 20% more has access to 100+ Mbit connections from other ISP's (TWC, COX, etc.), the majority of the country has access to a minimum 5Mbit connection

it's the rural people that make the largest problem, which the Midwest is the worst to wire up... most of them rely on WISPs... but heck with Verizon LTE now covering most of the country, via WISP's you have 15+Mbit LTE available to most of the people if you wanted a LTE connection point...

not as bad as people think it is anymore

[LaP]

5GB for a firmware is ridiculous.

This an OS update probably.

[LaP]

4 hours tops? What planet do these people live on?

The vast majority of people won't be able to download 5GB in 8 hours, let alone 4!

I download 4GB in around 2 hours easily (probably more like 1 hour and a half) if the server is good and i have the worst high speed connection avalaible in the Province of Quebec.

From reports on other forums, the download is around 1GB, but when installed takes up 5GB of space.

Hope it's not 5GB, as I only have a 5MB connection, but I guess I will find out when I get home unless UPS messes up my delivery.

1gb is nothing. Video card drivers are like 150MB these days.

[neufuse Veteran]

I download 4GB in around 2 hours easily (probably more like 1 hour and a half) if the server is good and i have the worst high speed connection avalaible in the Province of Quebec.

1gb is nothing. Video card drivers are like 150MB these days.

and 90% of that "driver" isn't the driver, but add-on software that you don't necessarily need

[+Eternal Tempest MVC]

Complete system update for the PS3 is about 200mb.

1gb (or 5gb) is pretty massive. Seems like Nintendo was a bit pressed to meet there launch window.

Maybe they should of broken it down to core system, and trying to run system apps having a separate download (on demand).

They should also have an offline update method as well.

This won't deter me from getting a Wii U, however, there update system needs some work.

[tsupersonic]

39% of the country has access to 105Mbit DOCSIS3 connections now on Comcast alone (the largest ISP in the country), over 20% more has access to 100+ Mbit connections from other ISP's (TWC, COX, etc.), the majority of the country has access to a minimum 5Mbit connection

it's the rural people that make the largest problem, which the Midwest is the worst to wire up... most of them rely on WISPs... but heck with Verizon LTE now covering most of the country, via WISP's you have 15+Mbit LTE available to most of the people if you wanted a LTE connection point...

not as bad as people think it is anymore

I had experience with TWC and DOCSIS3 (was advertised 30/5), and it is not fast at all. The connection ended up being worse than my current 20/2. Bottom line is TWC is absolute garbage, but it is the only option in my area (well unless I go the satellite route, and that is just laughable). I think the highest package they offer in my area gets to 50 Mbps download, but that is ungodly expensive. The 30/5 was $85/month alone.

[LaP]

and 90% of that "driver" isn't the driver, but add-on software that you don't necessarily need

It's still a 150$ download for 99.99% of the people out there. And i would not call the drivers control panel not necessary anyway.

5Gb is definately too much. I would not call 1Gb a big deal. This is about what you have to download when you buy a new computer if you want to update all the drivers and softwares to their last version.

[Glassed Silver]

Nintendo really loves internet updates, it lets them ship beta software and patch it and add features later on.

Tisk tisk tisk...

Glassed Silver:ios

[neufuse Veteran]

I had experience with TWC and DOCSIS3 (was advertised 30/5), and it is not fast at all. The connection ended up being worse than my current 20/2. Bottom line is TWC is absolute garbage, but it is the only option in my area (well unless I go the satellite route, and that is just laughable). I think the highest package they offer in my area gets to 50 Mbps download, but that is ungodly expensive. The 30/5 was $85/month alone.

I'm on Comcast at 50Mbit, and I get a steady 65Mbit (they overprovision) never had speed issues on DOCSIS3, TWC is notorious for over subscribing nodes, causing "slow downs" on the shared coax lines from the node

[Blackhearted]

I had experience with TWC and DOCSIS3 (was advertised 30/5), and it is not fast at all. The connection ended up being worse than my current 20/2. Bottom line is TWC is absolute garbage, but it is the only option in my area (well unless I go the satellite route, and that is just laughable). I think the highest package they offer in my area gets to 50 Mbps download, but that is ungodly expensive. The 30/5 was $85/month alone.

I have had TWC for years and i have had pretty much no problem at all getting every bit of my connections advertised speed(unless, of course, a site has a per user bandwidth cap. but that's not twc's fault). Also, TWC aint all bad, even if you may have speed problems. After all, i don't beleive they have caps yet.

Nintendo really loves internet updates, it lets them ship beta software and patch it and add features later on.

Tisk tisk tisk...

Glassed Silver:ios

Most game developers do that all the time these days(ship now, fix later). Why are you only jumping to complain about it now? Is it because it's nintendo?

[LaP]

Nintendo really loves internet updates, it lets them ship beta software and patch it and add features later on.

Tisk tisk tisk...

Glassed Silver:ios

Everyone do that these days.

I'm not saying it is right but sadly it's not a big deal anymore.

[Tech Geek Alex]

The "normal" home user pays $19 to $29 a month for there internet. Those users get 768k to 1.5 mb speeds. So this is basically a take the U home today and play with it tomorrow (if you are lucky).