Windows 8 Sales are actually Amazing - 40 million sold

By spudtrooper
in Microsoft (Windows)

 Share

Recommended Posts

Grand Master

+LogicalApex MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

Do you guys honestly think that run box will last much longer!?

As I said earlier, why remove something that doesn't need removing? It would be more work to remove it...

The code for the RUN dialog doesn't change with every Windows release. It probably is largely unchanged from Windows 95...

Not every user is incompetent. Some of us can, and do, use the advanced functions of the OS.

Grand Master

Dot Matrix

Posted
Posted

why not? that's one thing that's definitely not hurting anything by being there

and it especially comes in handy when/if explorer crashes

It's redundant code. It could be removed in favor of the Metro search screen which is triggered by Win+Q.

Grand Master

+LogicalApex MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

It's redundant code. It could be removed in favor of the Metro search screen which is triggered by Win+Q.

And you know this how? Have you seen the Windows source code? If Microsoft's developers are smart, and I suspect they are, the code isn't redundant and instead the Metro search calls the RUN dialog (or whatever the RUN dialog itself calls).

What you see isn't directly reflective of the structure of the code executing behind the scenes...

Grand Master

Brandon H Supervisor

Posted
  • Supervisor
Posted

And you know this how? Have you seen the Windows source code? If Microsoft's developers are smart, and I suspect they are, the code isn't redundant and instead the Metro search calls the RUN dialog (or whatever the RUN dialog itself calls).

What you see isn't directly reflective of the structure of the code executing behind the scenes...

this, most likely the search box from vista-8 is making a call through the run program

plus like i said, if explorer crashes, Win+Q does nothing. what do you do then? oh that's right, start explorer back up through the run dialog box

Dot, even most linux guis have a run dialog box you can access

even if it is redundant, it's so small it shouldn't really matter, it's probably only a line or 2 of code

Grand Master

Dot Matrix

Posted
Posted

And you know this how? Have you seen the Windows source code? If Microsoft's developers are smart, and I suspect they are, the code isn't redundant and instead the Metro search calls the RUN dialog (or whatever the RUN dialog itself calls).

What you see isn't directly reflective of the structure of the code executing behind the scenes...

If that's the case, it can be simply eliminated, and Win+R re-directed to Metro Search. It would be one step in creating unity in the OS.

Grand Master

HawkMan

Posted
Posted

And you know this how? Have you seen the Windows source code? If Microsoft's developers are smart, and I suspect they are, the code isn't redundant and instead the Metro search calls the RUN dialog (or whatever the RUN dialog itself calls).

What you see isn't directly reflective of the structure of the code executing behind the scenes...

....

SERIOUSLY...

you don't code for a living do you...

Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

It's redundant code. It could be removed in favor of the Metro search screen which is triggered by Win+Q.

So do you type in your URL's in the search box if the browser isn't open?

Did you ever use the run box in XP?

Grand Master

Dot Matrix

Posted
Posted

plus like i said, if explorer crashes, Win+Q does nothing. what do you do then? oh that's right, start explorer back up through the run dialog box

When was the last time Explorer crashed for you? It hasn't crashed for me in years. Plus, CTRL+ALT+DEL still works.

Grand Master

Dot Matrix

Posted
Posted

Did you ever use the run box in XP?

I used the run box.... Never. I type my URLs in the browser... Where they belong. And to be honest, I never type URLs anymore. I pin them to START.

Plus, guess what also works in Win8 Search... You guessed it. URLs. ;)

Grand Master

Brandon H Supervisor

Posted
  • Supervisor
Posted

When was the last time Explorer crashed for you? It hasn't crashed for me in years. Plus, CTRL+ALT+DEL still works.

yes, ctrl+alt+del still works, and you then from there, you open the task manager where you can access RUN

plus the search box doesn't always work for everything, like using flags when launching an app for example

Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

I used the run box.... Never. I type my URLs in the browser... Where they belong.

See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it.

Grand Master

Dot Matrix

Posted
Posted

See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it.

Like I said above. URLs also work in Win7 and Win8 Search. ;) Better part? I don't even need to know the URL! I can do a web search too!

post-420821-0-20901500-1355430045.png

Grand Master

Brandon H Supervisor

Posted
  • Supervisor
Posted

See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it.

sorry war, you're the only one i've ever known to actually do that

I've never heard of any other "power user" that does that

Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

Like I said above. URLs also work in Win7 and Win8 Search. ;)

You don't even use that. You still open the browser.

sorry war, you're the only one i've ever known to actually do that

Close your browser and try it.

windows key + R then type the web address with the www. then press enter. it's MUCH faster.

Grand Master

BajiRav

Posted
Posted

Do you guys honestly think that run box will last much longer!?

Well practically it was removed in Vista when Microsoft removed it from start menu. :p I don't see them doing more than that because it is used in bunch of places including the server core editions.

See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it.

Don't power users have multiple applications open? why is your browser closed then?

hand over your power user card on your way out...NAAW!

Grand Master

Dot Matrix

Posted
Posted

Another difference between Search and Run, with run, you HAVE to know the filepath. Let's be honest, no one, and I mean no one, remembers file paths, no do they want to sit there and type them out, when Search works faster and more efficiently.

Grand Master

HawkMan

Posted
Posted

See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it.

I think you're confused about what a power user is.

Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

Well practically it was removed in Vista when Microsoft removed it from start menu. :p I don't see them doing more than that because it is used in bunch of places including the server core editions.

Don't power users have multiple applications open? why is your browser closed then?

hand over your power user card on your way out...NAAW!

,

Even if the web browser was open it's much slower to bring the app back in focus and click the address bar, than it is to use the run box with windows key + R

Grand Master

Brandon H Supervisor

Posted
  • Supervisor
Posted

Another difference between Search and Run, with run, you HAVE to know the filepath. Let's be honest, no one, and I mean no one, remembers file paths, no do they want to sit there and type them out, when Search works faster and more efficiently.

yes and no, basic things from the system & system32 folders you can just type the app name such as regedit or services.msc or explorer
Grand Master

Dot Matrix

Posted
Posted

,

Even if the web browser was open it's much slower to bring the app back in focus and click the address bar, than it is to use the run box with windows key + R

If your mouse is so slow, then should you not increase the tracking speed?

Grand Master

+LogicalApex MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it.

Additionally, countless Windows programs depend on this functionality as this allows them to ensure they open the default browser instead of figuring out what browsers users have installed (the app sends the url to the API as if it were a file to execute). So it isn't that arcane or odd.

....

SERIOUSLY...

you don't code for a living do you...

I'm not sure if you're serious or not... But if you are... I'd recommend you read some of the fundamentals of the craft such as Hunt's The Pragmatic Programmer and understand why the DRY Principal he mentions is considered a fundamental part of software engineering.

You can also Google it... But actually learning the concepts is far more important.

Grand Master

+Warwagon MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

If your mouse is so slow, then should you not increase the tracking speed?

and if hands are already on the keyboard it's slower just to take your hands off the keyboard and put it on the mouse.

Grand Master

+LogicalApex MVC

Posted
  • MVC
Posted

Another difference between Search and Run, with run, you HAVE to know the filepath. Let's be honest, no one, and I mean no one, remembers file paths, no do they want to sit there and type them out, when Search works faster and more efficiently.

Actually, no you don't. Any application whose path is in the PATH environment variable or in the APP_PATH registry key will launch just by typing the executable name.

Try it yourself... Type "Winword" to open MS Word or "Firefox" to open Firefox. Works like a charm.

  • Brandon H and MorganX
  • Like 2
Grand Master

BajiRav

Posted
Posted

,

Even if the web browser was open it's much slower to bring the app back in focus and click the address bar, than it is to use the run box with windows key + R

switch with alt+tab/winkey+# and then press F4 to jump to the address bar :p (only if you use IE though)

This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Posts

    • Samsung, Amazon extend 990 PRO 2TB NVMe SSD deal beyond Prime Day 2026

      By seeprime · Posted

      I like to reminisce about the good old days, way back in autumn 2025 when building a gaming machine was fun and the drives were about $150 when you caught a deal. Yes duh, back in the day we had it gone. Then baby Skynet came along, hiding in AI datacenters demanding more processing power until it reached singularity. End of a not totally fictional story.
    • Bypassed Windows 11 shows surprising stability on ancient, completely unsupported hardware

      By +Spark99 · Posted

      My experience in the past with older Windows 11 builds was not great on unsupported machines but I recently used Rufus to put the latest build on a older 5th Gen Core Thinkpad T that we upgraded with a SATA SSD and 8GB of RAM four years ago when hardware was reasonable and it seemed pretty fast and solid. Customer is very happy with the performance and will probably get four more years out of that venerable laptop that he loves so much. Another customer just retired his Dell Studio laptop from 2009 running Windows 10. It got an SSD over 10 years ago and did everything he needed it to for 17 years but he also retired last year and is happy doing everything on his iPad now.
    • Apple's newest AirTag 2 gets first big discount

      By TarasBuria · Posted

      Apple's newest AirTag 2 gets first big discount by Taras Buria In late January 2026, Apple introduced its second-generation AirTag trackers, bringing a refresh to the old model that has been on the market for half a decade. Now, you can get these new trackers at an all-time low price, thanks to the first big discount that brought the price down by 17% on Amazon. While the second-generation AirTag looks identical to its predecessor, it packs meaningful upgrades inside. The second-gen ultrawideband chip works 50% farther than the original AirTag, allowing you to detect lost items in a wider range. In addition, the second-generation AirTag features an upgraded Bluetooth chip for extended range and a significantly louder speaker (up to 50%) so that you can hear it better when locating a lost item. Note that the second-gen AirTag only works with iPhones and iPads that run iOS/iPadOS 26 and newer, so you need a compatible device to use the tracker. Like the original AirTag, the AirTag 2 is available in two packs: one and four pieces. Both are now available at a notable discount on Amazon, and you can purchase them using the links below. Apple AirTag 2 tracker - $24 | 17% off on Amazon Apple AirTag 2 tracker (four-pack) - $89 | 10% off on Amazon Good to know This Amazon deal is U.S.- specific and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from a first-party seller link only. Check out Today's Deals on Amazon | or our recent tech deals. Become a Prime member (for Students or SNAP) via Neowin Get Prime Access - Prime for half price (for qualifying Medicaid, EBT, SNAP) Subscribe to Prime Video, Audible Plus, Music Unlimited or Kindle Unlimited via Neowin As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
    • Tidal won't monetize AI slop music, company says

      By monterxz · Posted

      I've been on Deezer for over a decade, but glad that Tidal joined them in fighting AI slop. Can't stand such takes as Spotify's: "Spotify's CEO recently pushed back against listeners who call AI music "slop," urging people to stop using the term and instead embrace the creative potential of AI music."
    • Why it's almost impossible to produce a smartphone in the United States

      By Cosmocronos · Posted

      “Could” … in the IS the healthcare is run by insurance companies that make indecent profits denying basic treatments to people that are paying money for nothing. Besides, where are all the Trump epigones who were stating that the tariffs were going to paid by foreign companies and not the US citizens? …

  • Recent Achievements

    • Reacting Well
      NovaEdgeX earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • Week One Done
      NovaEdgeX earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Year In
      BA the Curmudgeon earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Conversation Starter
      rosiecharles earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • First Post
      KMilenkoski1202 earned a badge
      First Post

  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      538
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      266
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      151
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      98
    5. 5
      macoman
      66
    Show More

  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!