BigBoy Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Matthew Szulik, chief executive of Linux vendor Red Hat, said on Monday that although Linux is capable of exceeding expectations for corporate users, home users should stick with Windows: "I would say that for the consumer market place, Windows probably continues to be the right product line," he said. "I would argue that from the device-driver standpoint and perhaps some of the other traditional functionality, for that classic consumer purchaser, it is my view that [Linux]technology needs to mature a little bit more." http://www.silicon.com/software/os/0,39024...39116741,00.htm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmondian Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 :laugh: Couldn't have said it better myself. I wonder how the HardCore Linux advocates feel now? :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1332991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Well, I think that's exactly right. Linux is as easy to use as Windows, so long as it supports your hardware! I'd be perfectly happy using Redhat is I could just get my sound card to work. But with out it, it defeats many of the reasons I use my computer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1333054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerf25 Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 well said, I like linux but don't use it as my main computer but there are many things that linux can handle much better than windows user-friendliness is not one Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1333058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairon Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Oooh, thats gotta hurt. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1333059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 4, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 4, 2003 it's just the hardware support that's hurting them... if you used linux as much as you used windows... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1333076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Linux has never appealed to me due to the lack of a gaming platform. Sure you can host a CS server on a linux build, but you can't play the clientside version. Bummer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1333082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotabigtruck Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 I couldn't have said it better myself! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1333235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Booger Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 You can't blame linux for the lack of driver and hardware support.. that is the hardware manufacturers fault. Same thing with game makers. They could easily make ports of linux and Mac but they see Microsoft as the sole money making operating system for their products. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1334651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted November 5, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2003 :laugh: Couldn't have said it better myself. I wonder how the HardCore Linux advocates feel now? :D Well I personally don't mind. Linux has never been suitable for the average home user - I would personally have never reccomended it for such a scenario! But for the enthusiast home user (such as a lot of Neowinians, etc) and people with a bit more IQ about them than the people who put credit cards in floppy drives and use their CDROM drives as a coffee cup holder, then Linux is still a great system. We all know still that Linux makes an excellent server system though.. Windows for desktops, Linux for servers :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1334659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethrd Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Linux has never appealed to me due to the lack of a gaming platform. Sure you can host a CS server on a linux build, but you can't play the clientside version. Bummer. Actually, you can. There is a program called "WINE" that allows you to run Win32 based applications in a *nix environment. As for the Windows for desktop, Linux for server, I personally prefer a BSD flavor for servers. =) :ninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1334671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus ^i^ Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Hardly surprising... Linux is getting better, but it's still too difficult to use for the average Joe. Just installing a driver for your gfx card is a science in itself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1334995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonobozoot Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 What the hell? Linux CEO has been conquered by those evil MS ***tards. May he be sent to Valhalla to serve under ODin for the rest of his life. that is what i wanted to write and look for the meaning of Valhalla in Google. these two were something i didnt expect: ;) :laugh: valhalla is now shipping for linux valhalla is a great hall where "odin receives the souls of heroes fallen bravely in battle". more is here @ Valhalla Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1335039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMasamune Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Hardly surprising... Linux is getting better, but it's still too difficult to use for the average Joe. Just installing a driver for your gfx card is a science in itself. I know what you mean. Those darn Nvidia drivers had me going crazy for a little bit. Got it working though.. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1335047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fukachu Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 linux is a great system and is gonna get so much better, its gone so far in recent years! much further then windows (in my opinion please dont argue with me about this) sad to see redhat linux is dying also, but to be honest never liked it anyway! go the slackware or gentoo :) still have to admit windows is made so much easier.. mainly because of what is almost a monopoly there is. if more people used max it would be cheaper, if more people used linux over the years it would be better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1335131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotabigtruck Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Huh? I got this on Googlism: valhalla is awaiting you valhalla is included in the plans for a future nordic youth portal valhalla is the only choice valhalla is awesome valhalla is a spooky place valhalla is dead valhalla is a good ride Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1335313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotabigtruck Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Actually, Red Hat Linux isn't dying. Just RHL boxed products and RHN support. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1335322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 To the guy who said linux has come a long way in the past few years..... errr so has windows, they just did it first. Linux is trying FAR too hard to be like windows, its almost embarasing that linux freaks claim its far better then advocate complete ripping of the GUI. Dont get me wrong, I absolutely love linux as a no-gui server OS, but as a desktop its a wannabe, plain and simple. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1335346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander777 Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 To the guy who said linux has come a long way in the past few years..... errr so has windows, they just did it first. Linux is trying FAR too hard to be like windows, its almost embarasing that linux freaks claim its far better then advocate complete ripping of the GUI.Dont get me wrong, I absolutely love linux as a no-gui server OS, but as a desktop its a wannabe, plain and simple. Snickering I just love how windows people think microsoft like invented the gui, with the blue desktop and the nice little icons and taskbar. They dont hold the patient on any of the destops, taskbars or icons so when another company makes a o/s with them everyone says oh oh look they are stealing microsofts stuff. bull besides go back to the 70s when mr gates stole basic. when you run your mouth at least do your research to back it up . :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1335374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptiPlex Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 To the guy who said linux has come a long way in the past few years..... errr so has windows, they just did it first. Linux is trying FAR too hard to be like windows, its almost embarasing that linux freaks claim its far better then advocate complete ripping of the GUI.Dont get me wrong, I absolutely love linux as a no-gui server OS, but as a desktop its a wannabe, plain and simple. Snickering I just love how windows people think microsoft like invented the gui, with the blue desktop and the nice little icons and taskbar. They dont hold the patient on any of the destops, taskbars or icons so when another company makes a o/s with them everyone says oh oh look they are stealing microsofts stuff. bull besides go back to the 70s when mr gates stole basic. when you run your mouth at least do your research to back it up . :angry: So what kind of GUI does Linux have? Never seen one :o Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1336114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezza Veteran Posted November 5, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2003 So what kind of GUI does Linux have? Never seen one :o https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=69838 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1336132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tran Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 So what kind of GUI does Linux have? Never seen one :o You know that's the funniest thing I've heard all day! :laugh: I love Gnome... not really a fan of KDE but might give it a shot if I ever install Linux again (either Fedora, Slackware or Gentoo). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1336153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLapointe Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 The fact with windows a noob can install pretty much all software by just putting in their cd and following the instructions or if they downloaded it by just double clicking the .exe file and following the very easy instructions. Until Linux gets a standard system with a program having say .lin where every version can use this instead of having .rpm or god knows how many sources missing messages that people don't even know how or where to get and/or add them. Poeple don't want to have to use a command line to inzip, untar and install and such. The mac and windows make it simple with either .exe for windows or .bin, .dmg or the like that still only require a couple clicks of their mouse without a command line. Hey I like Linux but that is its biggest killer and until that becomes universal and easy it will "NEVER EVER" compete with windows or the mac platform. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1336181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyk87 Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 :huh: even though i do agree, i very much like linux and the very idea it is. sad to see redhat 9 be there last personal release. but face it, windows is best for home computing. next to that my linux and wanting of a mac box. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1336190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LogicalApex MVC Posted November 5, 2003 MVC Share Posted November 5, 2003 For those busy cussing out the CEO of Red Hat, Inc... He has a valid and clear point, Linux isnt ready for desktop usage. The OS has a long ways to go in terms of being simple to use, many users love the ability to know how to say install Nvidia drivers on Linux w/ ease, but for a average user taking 30 minutes to do a "simple" task isnt very welcomed. Simplcity that Windows and Mac are famous for can be inherent to limits, but its also needed. The majority of Linux users are like me, PC Professionals, Taking a while to learn sometime and master it is actually fun to us. To A person who could care less about a PC and just wants specific stuff done its not fun at all, but instead a pain in the arse. I agree with the CEO on Linux, it wil get in user hands soon enough, not now. And for the users screaming that Linux dosent "Steal" from MS, it does lots, but MS is a standard so its hard not to have to steal from them... Relax and as said before... Windows = Desktops Windows Server = Damn good server OS :D (im a windows server admin soo...) Linux = Server Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/113352-red-hat-ceo-says-you-should-buy-windows/#findComment-1336251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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