Tycoon insists Titanic II good idea

By Hum
in Real World News

 Share

Recommended Posts

Grand Master

redvamp128

Posted
Posted

I sure hope they have a few backup plans in place just in case something happens...

This time I am sure the regulations are going to be where there is more Life Vests, Life Boats, than necessary as well as not overcrowding the boat. I read somewhere they were about 40 passengers over the recommended safety limit. Not to mention there is improved communication equipment as well as satellite communication in case they go down.

Grand Master

Noir Angel

Posted
Posted

I sure hope they have a few backup plans in place just in case something happens...

Although with the Costa Concordia and the more recent accident ships are in the news again, these days cruise ships are incredibly safe. The most unsafe vessels are car ferries and even in those cases safety is improving.

Rising Star

BoomyBoy

Posted
Posted

Um if everything you own was made in the US you wouldn't be able to afford half of it. People in China get paid $2 a DAY, in America those same people would be making at least $8 an hour + benefits. Then you'd get unions who'd increase their wages too.

Well those companies sell everything they produce to other countries two times higher than they are in the US anyway so it wouldn't make a lot difference. An iPhone 5 in Turkey is 2,000 dollars and it's 650 dollars in the US. There's a huge difference. I'm pretty sure they can sell the iPhone half price here since they make lots of profits in other countries.

Grand Master

+Gary7 Subscriber²

Posted
  • Subscriber²
Posted

Although with the Costa Concordia and the more recent accident ships are in the news again, these days cruise ships are incredibly safe. The most unsafe vessels are car ferries and even in those cases safety is improving.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/15/stranded-carnival-cruise-expected-to-dock-in-alabama-after-four-days-with/

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/13/disabled-cruise-ship-previously-had-electrical-problems-carnival-admits/

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/us/carnival-cruise-line-ship-triumph-towed-into-port.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Incredibly safe if you can put up with feces and raw sewage all over the place and the odor. :s

Grand Master

Noir Angel

Posted
Posted

Yes that's one accident on one ship. If I told you that one shooting with one gun meant all guns everywhere should be banned I'm sure you'd probably bite my head off. Statistically ships are no more unsafe than any other form of transport.

Also: The original Titanic was not an American ship, and the guy creating the Titanic II is not an American either. It strikes me as being odd that so many Americans are up in arms about the labour being outsourced to China.

  • nekkidtruth
  • Like 1
Grand Master

redvamp128

Posted
Posted

http://www.foxnews.c...four-days-with/

http://www.rawstory....arnival-admits/

http://www.nytimes.c...wanted=all&_r=0

Incredibly safe if you can put up with feces and raw sewage all over the place and the odor. :s

I think he is probably referring to even after a fire the ship didn't sink....

Grand Master

linsook

Posted
Posted

I can't believe that companies are still manufacturing stuff in China... Governments should stop that for real. If every country prefers their own country to manufacture then there won't be as high unemployment as there is right now. There are lots of people looking for a job yet companies are still in for China... Just because it is cheap there...Yeah, help China become the biggest economy ever by 2020...

Would you pay $14970 for an ipad?

Grand Master

Xerxes

Posted
Posted

I can't believe that companies are still manufacturing stuff in China... Governments should stop that for real. If every country prefers their own country to manufacture then there won't be as high unemployment as there is right now. There are lots of people looking for a job yet companies are still in for China... Just because it is cheap there...Yeah, help China become the biggest economy ever by 2020...

That will never happen because hiring workers in your own country is far too expensive. As workers in western countries demand higher wages, various benefits and good working conditions etc (things they have every right to have) while workers in China will work for peanuts in **** conditions because they have no other choice. Who do you think the companies are going to employ? companies are all about money and how to make much as possible, they care about little else.

While I totally agree with you that bringing manufacturing "back home" would greatly benefit the home country, there is just too little incentive for massive companies to potentially bankrupt* themselves just to support local workers.

* Alright maybe that is slight exaggeration, but hiring local workers will affect the bottom line and your going to be hard pressed to convince management that reducing the profits of the company to hire local workers is a good thing....

Grand Master

The Evil Overlord

Posted
Posted

I think it's a great idea, if indeed an exact replica, if used as a history museum.

'God himself could not sink this ship'.....

Sorry, where is it right now?

Acutally, while I'm still posting... Is he going to address the structural wobble the original ship had?

Grand Master

+Gary7 Subscriber²

Posted
  • Subscriber²
Posted

Yes that's one accident on one ship. If I told you that one shooting with one gun meant all guns everywhere should be banned I'm sure you'd probably bite my head off. Statistically ships are no more unsafe than any other form of transport.

Also: The original Titanic was not an American ship, and the guy creating the Titanic II is not an American either. It strikes me as being odd that so many Americans are up in arms about the labour being outsourced to China.

Those links are about more than one cruise ship. Just Google Cruise ship mishaps. People go missing..etc. I do not understand how Carnival stays in business. I do not care who is trying to build this ship, it is not a very good idea. Now if they plan to follow the same course as the original , the idea may be feasible. That is if it does not hit an Iceberg. Oh and if the ship was built in America it would not have hit that Iceberg and it would not be an issue.

Grand Master

The Evil Overlord

Posted
Posted

What structural wobble are you talking about?

History channel mentioned the ship had to be reinforced because of it's length, the decks were redesigned and strengthened, due to (for lack of a better way to say it) it's sides had a tendency to wobble in open water.

Now I don't know this for a fact, but I have no reason to not believe it neither.

Grand Master

Noir Angel

Posted
Posted

Those links are about more than one cruise ship. Just Google Cruise ship mishaps. People go missing..etc. I do not understand how Carnival stays in business. I do not care who is trying to build this ship, it is not a very good idea. Now if they plan to follow the same course as the original , the idea may be feasible. That is if it does not hit an Iceberg. Oh and if the ship was built in America it would not have hit that Iceberg and it would not be an issue.

LOL... as much as your misguided arrogance amuses me, the construction of the ship was not at fault for the disaster. No civilian ship on the sea at that time in history would have survived such damage. It was mostly poor corporate management that led to the catalogue of mistakes that sank the Titanic, and I think corporate arrogance is something you yanks know better than anyone else.

History channel mentioned the ship had to be reinforced because of it's length, the decks were redesigned and strengthened, due to (for lack of a better way to say it) it's sides had a tendency to wobble in open water.

Now I don't know this for a fact, but I have no reason to not believe it neither.

I've studied the Titanic extensively and I recall no such reports. The only thing I can think of would be the ship's expansion joints and those were a common feature of shipbuilding at the time, designed to stop ships breaking their back in heavy storms. According to all the survivor testimony I have seen there were no significant issues for the Titanic in that department.

Grand Master

+Gary7 Subscriber²

Posted
  • Subscriber²
Posted

LOL... as much as your misguided arrogance amuses me, the construction of the ship was not at fault for the disaster. No civilian ship on the sea at that time in history would have survived such damage. It was mostly poor corporate management that led to the catalogue of mistakes that sank the Titanic, and I think corporate arrogance is something you yanks know better than anyone else.

http://www.mapreport...p.accident.html

Read and learn something. Arrogance. Pot calls kettle.

Grand Master

Noir Angel

Posted
Posted

http://www.mapreport...p.accident.html

Read and learn something. Arrogance. Pot calls kettle.

8 shipping disasters all over the world. In 2012 561 people died in shipping disasters. 24x more people died in the united states of america alone from gun violence than died all over the world from accidents aboard ships (and 431 of those were in poor countries). Nor have you provided me any evidence that American ships are better than anyone else's. I know fearmongering is all you yanks know but get your head in the real world and actually do the math.

Grand Master

The Evil Overlord

Posted
Posted

I've studied the Titanic extensively and I recall no such reports. The only thing I can think of would be the ship's expansion joints and those were a common feature of shipbuilding at the time, designed to stop ships breaking their back in heavy storms. According to all the survivor testimony I have seen there were no significant issues for the Titanic in that department.

I can't find it now neither, I'm sure I'm not mistaken, but please note, I'm only going on something seen on TV for all I know that information might have been disproven by now...

Grand Master

Noir Angel

Posted
Posted

It is true that the Titanic's original design called for it to be a bit shorter and they did indeed have to lengthen it but as far as I'm aware it didn't cause the ship to handle significantly differently. The size of the ships however did cause other issues, the infamous incident between the Titanic's sister the Olympic and the HMS Hawk was caused largely by the suction that the immense draft of the ships created in shallow water.

Grand Master

+Gary7 Subscriber²

Posted
  • Subscriber²
Posted

8 shipping disasters all over the world. In 2012 561 people died in shipping disasters. 24x more people died in the united states of america alone from gun violence than died all over the world from accidents aboard ships (and 431 of those were in poor countries). Nor have you provided me any evidence that American ships are better than anyone else's. I know fearmongering is all you yanks know but get your head in the real world and actually do the math.

Gun violence is way off of this topic. You seem to be obsessed with guns. I did not say that America's ship building was better. I said that if it was built in America it would not have hit that iceberg . The reason being that it would have taken a very different course. /

Grand Master

CrashG

Posted
Posted

surely the cruise route can only approved for summer time only.

i would also prefer it, if the new titanic have some hovering ability, like hovercraft, just in case...

I'm sure the new one will have the latest & greatest radar system, satellite images and other tech gadgets that the first one didn't have.

  • gameboy1977
  • Like 1
Grand Master

The Evil Overlord

Posted
Posted

Sorry, couldn't resist:

<trollpost>

But I can see one major flaw already, the ship cannot EXACTLY retrace the original ship's journey, 1 because the original was built in Ireland, and 2, the iceberg the original ship hit, no longer exists :p

</trollpost>

This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Posts

    • Save up to 87% on ChatPlayground AI lifetime subscriptions

      By News Staff · Posted

      Save up to 87% on ChatPlayground AI lifetime subscriptions by Steven Parker Today's highlighted deal comes via our Apps + Software section of the Neowin Deals store, where for only a limited time, you can save up to 87% on ChatPlayground AI: lifetime subscriptions. ChatPlayground AI puts the world’s top AI models in one powerful interface, letting you enter a single prompt and instantly compare outputs from multiple models to choose the perfect response for your needs. Boost productivity and creativity with access to the latest AI giants like GPT-4o, Claude Sonnet 4, Gemini 1.5 Flash, DeepSeek V3, and dozens more — all in one window. Whether you’re chatting, coding, generating images, or refining prompts, ChatPlayground AI equips you with advanced tools like prompt engineering, image/PDF chat, saved conversations, and AI image creation, plus priority support to keep your workflow seamless. Access the world’s best AI models Side-by-Side Comparisons: Enter one prompt & instantly view results from multiple AI models to find the best output for your needs 40+ AI Models: Includes GPT-4o, Claude Sonnet 4, Gemini 1.5 Flash, DeepSeek V3, Llama, Perplexity, and many more Multi-Function Platform: Access AI for chat, image generation & coding all within a single interface Web Browser Extension: Offers a Chrome extension to seamlessly integrate the platform into your browsing workflow Boost productivity with powerful features ChatPlayground Interface: Designed for seamless AI model comparison in one window Prompt Engineering: Refine & optimize your prompts for better, more accurate responses Chat with Images & PDFs: Upload visuals and documents to get context-aware answers Saved Chat History: Keep track of past conversations for reference & ongoing projects AI Image Generation: Create high-quality visuals powered by top AI image models Priority Customer Support: Get faster assistance whenever you need it What you'll get with the Unlimited Plan Includes unlimited messages/month Built for prompt engineers, startups, and teams who run experiments nonstop Includes priority access to new features and future models Good to know Length of access: lifetime Redemption deadline: redeem your code within 30 days of purchase Access options: Desktop Max number of device(s): Unlimited Available to both NEW & Existing users Updates included A lifetime subscription to ChatPlayground AI (Unlimited Plan) normally costs $619, but you can pick it up for just $79 for a limited time - that represents a saving of $530 (87% off). Click the link below for more details, always check terms and specifications before making a purchase. Get this ChatPlayground AI (Unlimited) for $79 (was $619) There are also two other discounted plans to choose from. Although priced in U.S. dollars, this deal is available for digital purchase worldwide. Support queries If you have queries or need support for any of the Neowin Deals, please use the contact form here. Neowin Deals are managed and sold by StackCommerce who represent Neowin on an affiliate basis. Why we post these deals We post these because we earn commission on each sale so as not to rely solely on advertising, which many of our readers block. It all helps toward paying staff reporters, servers and hosting costs. So for those that keep moaning and complaining, be thankful we're still online for you to even do that. Other ways to support Neowin Whitelist Neowin by not blocking our ads Create a free member account to see fewer ads Make a donation to support our day to day running costs Subscribe to Neowin - for $14 a year, or $28 a year for an ad-free experience Disclosure: Neowin benefits from revenue of each sale made through our branded deals site powered by StackCommerce.
    • Sihoo Doro C300 Pro V2 Ergonomic Office Chair review: The Ikea of chairs

      By Steven P. · Posted

      Not on my Aeron Remastered no.
    • Tidal won't monetize AI slop music, company says

      By Steven P. · Posted

      I like Tidal, but it still does not control devices from the mobile/app and still no surround support. And yeah re: above comment I still get a lot of network errors and I am on a 4/4 Gbit Fiber connection.
    • Microsoft Edge gets tons of security features, including AI model that can see your screen

      By Riggers · Posted

      Aren`t "security features" and "AI model that can see your screen" a tad diametric!
    • Samsung, Amazon extend 990 PRO 2TB NVMe SSD deal beyond Prime Day 2026

      By hellowalkman · Posted

      Samsung, Amazon extend 990 PRO 2TB NVMe SSD deal beyond Prime Day 2026 by Sayan Sen Recently, we had Amazon's Prime Day 2026 sales wherein there were several great deals including on SSDs. One of those discounted components was the Samsung 990 PRO SSD as the 2TB variant of it was selling for $370, a very good price after a long time. Although that deal was supposed to expire today, Amazon has now extended that sale further (purchase link under the specs table down below). The 990 PRO is a PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD and still one of the fastest drives available today for under $400. Speaking of fast, sequential reads and writes are rated at 7450 MB/s and 6900 MB/s, respectively. The random throughputs for reads and writes are 1400K IOPS and 1550K IOPS, respectively. The 990 PRO is based on Samsung's 7th Gen V-NAND flash, and it too is TLC. It packs 2 gigs of LPDDR4 DRAM cache, which helps the random performance. The endurance rating for this is 1200 TBW (terabytes written), which should be sufficient for most users. The Samsung 990 PRO is compatible with the PlayStation 5, but if you are going to use the 990 PRO on a PC, check out the Samsung Magician app that lets you track your drive's health, update its firmware, customize various settings, and more. The technical specs of the Samsung 990 PRO 2TB are given in the table below: Specification Value Form Factor M.2 2280 Interface PCIe Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 2.0 NAND Flash Samsung V-NAND TLC Controller Samsung In-house Controller Cache Memory Samsung 2GB Low Power DDR4 SDRAM Sequential Read Speed Up to 7,450 MB/s Sequential Write Speed Up to 6,900 MB/s Random Read (4KB, QD32) Up to 1,400,000 IOPS Random Write (4KB, QD32) Up to 1,550,000 IOPS Random Read (4KB, QD1) Up to 22,000 IOPS Random Write (4KB, QD1) Up to 80,000 IOPS Operating Temperature 0°C to 70°C Reliability (MTBF) 1.5 Million Hours Endurance 1,200 TBW (Total Bytes Written) Get it at the link below: Samsung 990 PRO SSD 2TB NVMe SSD (MZ-V9P2T0B/AM): $369.99 (Sold and Shipped by Amazon US) Good to know This Amazon deal is U.S. specific, and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from a first-party seller link only. Check out Today's Deals on Amazon | or our recent tech deals. Become a Prime member (for Students or SNAP) via Neowin Get Prime Access - Prime for half price (for qualifying Medicaid, EBT, SNAP) Subscribe to Prime Video, Audible Plus, Music Unlimited or Kindle Unlimited via Neowin As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases

  • Recent Achievements

    • Reacting Well
      NovaEdgeX earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • Week One Done
      NovaEdgeX earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Year In
      BA the Curmudgeon earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Conversation Starter
      rosiecharles earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • First Post
      KMilenkoski1202 earned a badge
      First Post

  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      542
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      271
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      152
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      99
    5. 5
      macoman
      66
    Show More

  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!