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It doesn't have the same CPU as PS3, if they kept the CELL cpu it would have been outclassed by the next xbox, it would run hot and cost a fortune. Plus your PS3 doesn't magically stop working as soon as PS4 is released.

Sony should at least include a ps3 emulator. I dont like the idea of having to turn one console off and turn another on to play a older game. Sony has the ability to develop an emulator for the ps3. If you bought 10 ps3 games that were 40 dollars each, thats 400 dollars. I mean it would be nice to play Fallout 3, GTA IV, Gran Turismo or Just Cause 2 on the ps4!

It doesn't have the same CPU as PS3, if they kept the CELL cpu it would have been outclassed by the next xbox, it would run hot and cost a fortune. Plus your PS3 doesn't magically stop working as soon as PS4 is released.

I thought the deal was PS3 games would be streamed via cloud? Gaikai or however it's spelt.

Sony should at least include a ps3 emulator. I dont like the idea of having to turn one console off and turn another on to play a older game. Sony has the ability to develop an emulator for the ps3. If you bought 10 ps3 gamea that were 40 dollars each, thats 400 dollars.

The ability to fully emulate CELL? I do not think so.

I thought the deal was PS3 games would be streamed via cloud? Gaikai or however it's spelt.

Most likely, but BC plans if any will probably be announced at E3.

Sony should at least include a ps3 emulator. I dont like the idea of having to turn one console off and turn another on to play a older game. Sony has the ability to develop an emulator for the ps3. If you bought 10 ps3 games that were 40 dollars each, thats 400 dollars. I mean it would be nice to play Fallout 3, GTA IV, Gran Turismo or Just Cause 2 on the ps4!

That PS3 still works you know. Don't be a lazy git. If they included BC, we would be looking at an $800 PS4 just like how the PS3 was expensive as hell when it came out.

Sony should at least include a ps3 emulator. I dont like the idea of having to turn one console off and turn another on to play a older game. Sony has the ability to develop an emulator for the ps3. If you bought 10 ps3 games that were 40 dollars each, thats 400 dollars. I mean it would be nice to play Fallout 3, GTA IV, Gran Turismo or Just Cause 2 on the ps4!

The thing with emulators is that, well they're just that an emulator. And while a PS3 isn't that powerful compared to hardware today. if if you take the raw FLOPS or whatever of the PS3, the PS4 would in most cases be able to emulate that just fine. The issue is that the PS3 isn't just another architecture, had it just been another PowerPC architecture sure, but with the special split architecture, then the power required to emulate it rises exponentially. Effectively it would need a Cell CPU in the PS4 to do it, like the PS3 had the emotion engine in the start.

in any cases they'll use their streaming technology to give you BC when you have internet, and since the PS3 games are all 720 or below the compression quality reduction won't be terrible.

Looks weird, to me it looks like a cube, the fan vent image looks quite big.

Yet if it had a Microsoft logo it would be the best thing ever right?

Uh..yea right or may be I said it's a lame attempt because

1. they are obviously trying to rain on Microsoft's parade and it is a poor tactic (Microsoft has done similar stupid stuff)

2. the "tease" itself is badly done. blurry blocks and generic grills/edges. If you saw it without any PS4 affiliation, will you be able to make the connection?

but yea, I am the fanboy here...

Sony should at least include a ps3 emulator. I dont like the idea of having to turn one console off and turn another on to play a older game. Sony has the ability to develop an emulator for the ps3. If you bought 10 ps3 games that were 40 dollars each, thats 400 dollars. I mean it would be nice to play Fallout 3, GTA IV, Gran Turismo or Just Cause 2 on the ps4!

Emulating a PS3 isn't even possible now with the top of the line gaming computers, and you want them to add it into the PS4? I wish it would happen as well, but its not possible with the tech we have now.

Also, as it has been said many, many times before, you don't have to throw out your PS3 with you get a new console. It sucks, but people are making a huge deal out of this. PS3 doesn't have PS2 games native, and its been years. Stop crying about something that has been in play for 5+ years.

2. the "tease" itself is badly done. blurry blocks and generic grills/edges. If you saw it without any PS4 affiliation, will you be able to make the connection?

That's the idea behind a teaser video, if they just showed it, it wouldn't be a teaser would it? After all, Sony have already stated they'll show it at E3... so they'll show it at E3.

It's just a teaser to catch attention, which has worked because it's got you talking about it, didn't it?

That PS3 still works you know. Don't be a lazy git. If they included BC, we would be looking at an $800 PS4 just like how the PS3 was expensive as hell when it came out.

Maybe in the future then. Yes, your ps3 will still work, but once you get a new console, you dont want to go back to the old one. Remember, alot of people spent a fortune on ps3 games. I wont be buying the new ps4 console for several years anyways!

Uh..yea right or may be I said it's a lame attempt because

1. they are obviously trying to rain on Microsoft's parade and it is a poor tactic (Microsoft has done similar stupid stuff)

2. the "tease" itself is badly done. blurry blocks and generic grills/edges. If you saw it without any PS4 affiliation, will you be able to make the connection?

but yea, I am the fanboy here...

Yeah trying to keep the hype up for its own console on the eve of a big console reveal is a poor tactic........

As for the teaser you really don't have a clue, it's supposed to TEASE you into wanting to know more about it, to get people talking about it.

Go back to the Microsoft forum.

Maybe in the future then. Yes, your ps3 will still work, but once you get a new console, you dont want to go back to the old one. Remember, alot of people spent a fortune on ps3 games. I wont be buying the new ps4 console for several year anyways!

If you don't want to go back to the old one why do you want to play old games?

Who cares if you have spent a lot on PS3 games, you bought them for the PS3 not the PS4. That's your own problem if you don't want to switch between them.

Maybe in the future then. Yes, your ps3 will still work, but once you get a new console, you dont want to go back to the old one. Remember, alot of people spent a fortune on ps3 games. I wont be buying the new ps4 console for several year anyways!

PS3 will keep selling for quite a while yet, especially with this years lineup. The current, and potentially still to come revisions of the PS3 are that rock solid, the worst that may ever happen over time is you needing to replace the Blu Ray laser which is very easy.

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Everyone is wondering what this is, not part of the controller/camera....

Maybe in the future then. Yes, your ps3 will still work, but once you get a new console, you dont want to go back to the old one. Remember, alot of people spent a fortune on ps3 games. I wont be buying the new ps4 console for several years anyways!

Sony stopped producing PS2s only last year. Look how long the PS3 has been out for.

Also, after about a year or two, most people don't go back to their old consoles.

Regardless if the ps4 will be BC or not, ps4 games are going to look incredibly photo realistic! If you thought ps3 games looked good, ps4 games will be mind blowing! I am going to wait several years to buy a new playstation 4, one reason is the price, and another is games in both in amount and graphics are going be better later.

From NeoGAF, looks like controller tweaks

think they made the touch pad a bit bigger, the little speaker at the bottom has been pushed down and the share button has been moved and is now sitting at an angle.

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I think it's the shape that people are wondering about. Grills/vents are shown in the video and they are rectangular, not circular.

most of the rectangular stuff are the front of the console and the eye toy camera.

this is likely on the side/rear of the console somewhere and it's not a perfect "box" shape, likely one side is round. that or this is the powerbrick ;)

I'm buying both the new PS and Xbox ...

To add to my current setup of

Sega Megadrive

Nintendo SNES

Nintendo 64

Sega Saturn

Sony PS2

Sony PS3

Nintendo Wii

Microsoft Xbox 360.

Brand whoring about consoles is pathetic. Every single person here attacking because it's not shown fully must be empty inside. Why not get excited about ALL new releases? Why not buy them all? I am :) Brand ###### can suck it.

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From NeoGAF, looks like controller tweaks

No, the new pictures are identical to the old one. the thing is the old one is a straight top down view. the new ones are shot at angles. it's kind of like the non paralell shadows on the moon photos thing ;)

if seen strgith from the top the share button is straight, it's straight in the new pic to. but it's not on a flat surface.

And if you look at the shading of the original top down picture, you'll notice the shadows showing the speaker is in the same downward bend/curve area that the new angled pic shows off better.

I'm buying both the new PS and Xbox ...

To add to my current setup of

Sega Megadrive

Nintendo SNES

Nintendo 64

Sega Saturn

Sony PS2

Sony PS3

Nintendo Wii

Microsoft Xbox 360.

Brand whoring about consoles is pathetic. Every single person here attacking because it's not shown fully must be empty inside. Why not get excited about ALL new releases? Why not buy them all? I am :) Brand ###### can suck it.

I don't have enough time to play all the new Xbox games, why would I need another console essentially giving me mostly the same games and whatever exclusives there are on either side, I can either live without or there are as or nearly as good alternatives on the console I have. I think PC, Xbox* and Computer covers all the gaming hours I had if my days where 48hours.

So whatever console you chose to buy, I don't see the need to have both Xbox and PS.

Is anyone planning on buying a ps4? I always wait several years because games will mature in graphics, quantity, and quality and the price will drop a little overtime.

Is anyone planning on buying a ps4? I always wait several years because games will mature in graphics and quantity, and the price will drop a little overtime.

If the pre-E3 show vision all comes to fruition, and we do not get any stupid announcements between now and release (silly DRM/silly paywalls), I'll buy fairly soon after launch for sure. The change to x86 and putting gaming/developers first should be a dream come true for gamers.

The new controller looks much better than the DS3 as well, shame it's not BC :p

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