Opera Next 15 released

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Opera Next 15 Released!

After a busy Winter here in the Desktop department at Opera we are finally ready to lift the covers of the latest preview of the next generation of our Web browsers. Today we are releasing Opera Next 15 for Windows and Mac. For all the latest information on the features head on over to the product information page. If you just can't wait grab the builds from the links below.

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Opera Next for Windows

Opera Next for Mac

One of the changes in this release is moving Opera's internal email client M2, into it's own separate product. It's almost ready, so today we want to introduce to you, the first release candidate of Opera Mail. If you have been using M2 please download it and send us your feedback.

Opera Mail for Windows

Opera Mail for Mac

Enjoy!

Source: Opera Desktop Team blog

For what it's worth: It crashes at launch on my work laptop. YMMV.

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any other changes than separating out the 2 kb html integrated webmail page ? :)

Going by the complaints in the blog post comments they axed a lot of features Opera users liked. RSS, M2 mail client, Opera Link etc.

On the positive side it's now based on Chromium and the Blink browser engine rather than Presto.

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any other changes than separating out the 2 kb html integrated webmail page ? :)

new feature which i love is the ability to stack the speed dials, like in the android version. No Link but they say they are working on it and i'm not sure yet but i think the lovely "wand" password manager might be gone, replaced with a typical one...

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Going by the complaints in the blog post comments they axed a lot of features Opera users liked. RSS, M2 mail client, Opera Link etc.

On the positive side it's now based on Chromium and the Blink browser engine rather than Presto.

Opera link... they killed link ? The others I don't care about but why would they remove link... not that the password part of it ever truly worked but...

new feature which i love is the ability to stack the speed dials, like in the android version. No Link but they say they are working on it and i'm not sure yet but i think the lovely "wand" password manager might be gone, replaced with a typical one...

Ugh, no want either. The wand was great and one f the reasons to use Opera over other systems with crappy password managers, heck it worked better than most third party systems.

Does it support Chrome extensions, since its based on chromium?

no, it uses the rendering engine not the UI shell which is where the extensions live.

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Opera link... they killed link ? The others I don't care about but why would they remove link... not that the password part of it ever truly worked but...

Ugh, no want either. The wand was great and one f the reasons to use Opera over other systems with crappy password managers, heck it worked better than most third party systems.

no, it uses the rendering engine not the UI shell which is where the extensions live.

Is there any hacks to add the UI shell?

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Why not wait until they add the features we are waiting for? There is a lot of whining in the blog and such now.

They shouldn't have "released" this in such matter for such a simple build. Looks like this might cause customers to drop their browser.

It's NEXT release, essentially an alpha, they released it to those who want to help test the bleeding edge. for those who want everything working all nice and fine, they have the regular stable release.

Is there any hacks to add the UI shell?

umm no. that's IS the browser, essentially, then you'll be running chrome.

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It's NEXT release, essentially an alpha, they released it to those who want to help test the bleeding edge. for those who want everything working all nice and fine, they have the regular stable release.

Yea, but going by the Facebook, it really is harming more than helping. I like it so far, but missing some features. Hope the updates keeps coming in from now on.

I thought Opera was moving to Webkit and not Blink...

Blink is Webkit.. But Blink will be its own engine eventually.
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I thought Opera was moving to Webkit and not Blink...

No, they're going with Blink: http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/04/04/opera-confirms-it-will-follow-google-and-ditch-webkit-for-blink-as-part-of-its-commitment-to-chromium/

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It's NEXT release, essentially an alpha, they released it to those who want to help test the bleeding edge. for those who want everything working all nice and fine, they have the regular stable release.

I think we understand that. The thing people are complaining about was that this is essentially not Opera. It's a webkit/blink renderer on a really simple shell which does next to nothing. What is so 'bleeding edge' about that?

It might have been better if they added some of the Opera-exclusive features into this build, even if they were half-baked. Right now, it's just a crippled Chrome.

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I think we understand that. The thing people are complaining about was that this is essentially not Opera. It's a webkit/blink renderer on a really simple shell which does next to nothing. What is so 'bleeding edge' about that?

It might have been better if they added some of the Opera-exclusive features into this build, even if they were half-baked. Right now, it's just a crippled Chrome.

+1 I hope Google releases an API for the extensions

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I think we understand that. The thing people are complaining about was that this is essentially not Opera. It's a webkit/blink renderer on a really simple shell which does next to nothing. What is so 'bleeding edge' about that?

It might have been better if they added some of the Opera-exclusive features into this build, even if they were half-baked. Right now, it's just a crippled Chrome.

it's bleeding edge because it's an alpha that's not done. if you want the features and stability, you're supposed to run the regular version.

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it's bleeding edge because it's an alpha that's not done. if you want the features and stability, you're supposed to run the regular version.

But is it worth releasing an alpha, if it means losing your identity? None of the things that uniquely defines Opera is present in this build.

I'm not joining the horde of people whining and threatening to leave (I'm actually excited), but if they had waited a couple weeks, they may not cop as much abuse as they are right now.

Plus, I'm worried that they'll go with their Android strategy, where they release their feature-lacking, bleeding edge version as Opera Mobile stable, and wiped their feature-rich stable version off of the market.

On a more positive note, people have reported of some extensions working. The next couple days should be interesting.

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Ah, I've been waiting to try this out. It works very well for me so far. I mean, obviously it's quite bare-bones considering the early stage of development, but I quite like it already. :D I haven't been on Opera full-time since the version 9 days, but this will make me switch back.

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I'm rather disappointed, but will hold my review for the final release. Too many things have been removed, and some completely useless(discovery...just like in android version) items were introduced. This simply looks, feels and works like Chrome, which isn't a praise from my point of view. I hope that Opera will listen to it's customer base for further development of Opera 15, since almost no one of long time users seems to be satisfied with Opera's direction.

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