Xbox One: No Games DRM or "Always Online"


Recommended Posts

The fact that you think it was the "cry babies" responsible for this is hilarious. I think you should watch the Sony conference again. People were cheering for a reason.

 

Playstation journalists, not "people", as in average joes. 

 

Journalists who refused to report on the whole aspect of the DRM and functions of it are the ones who lead this whole ridiculous crusade to start with. 

I think it's funny that people are blaming "us". If MS were so sure of their plan they wouldn't be making a drastic move like this. They've decided it's not the right way to progress either, so if you want to bitch, bitch at them.

 

No, I'm going to bitch at "you" about it.  You people complained loud enough and, unfortunately, got them to listen.  That's how the market works.  That's how business works.  You'd complain about them not listening to the consumer if they didn't do this, so you're just a hippocrate right now.

OT: hate to break it to you but, it's not.

I believe the start button is coming back in Windows 8.1 is it not? If yes, then that would be Microsoft listening to feedback as well.

They aren't doing it for the minority.

They're doing it to keep the majority.

I believe the start button is coming back in Windows 8.1 is it not? If yes, then that would be Microsoft listening to feedback as well.

They aren't doing it for the minority.

They're doing it to keep the majority.

button, not menu. 

Well, one thing is that the Xbox One will be around for another 7-8 years for sure before the next Xbox comes up.  I bet in 4-5 years they'll try to rework these ideas back into the system piece by piece.

Playstation journalists, not "people", as in average joes. 

 

Journalists who refused to report on the whole aspect of the DRM and functions of it are the ones who lead this whole ridiculous crusade to start with. 

 

You must not have been on the internet at all that night. "Normal people" all across the internet were cheering.

So thanks to the whiners, I can no longer

- share my library with my fanily

I can do this now. They can help themselves to my entire library. Crazy concept, they just pick it up off the shelf.

- play my games with the disk, protecting the disk

I assume you mean without? Just install it anyway, this means the disc doesn't get used.

- switch games instantly since disk is required

Its such a chore swapping discs.

- play my games on any of my consoles without remembering to bring the disk.

I guess youll just have to improve your memory. Try brain training.

- lend games to friends

Great news. You can now do this without restrictions.

- rent games digitally. 

You couldn't do this anyway.

 

Thank you guys. you're awesome for saving me from this freedom. /s

No problem. Some of us have the sense to think of whats best for the majority of consumers not just ourselves (Y).

Umm... all these things are still possible without DRM...

Has Microsoft actually confirmed those things or are you just throwing an assumption tantrum?

 

 

RTFA, yes it's confirmed. and no it's not possible without DRM, much like Netflix, spotify, Pandora etc. is not possible without DRM. 

Family sharing. RIP

I've got a feeling that some of these features (family sharing, fast switching, etc.) will be available for games you download but not for disc-based games. Steam-like digital distribution is the future and MS are unlikely to give up on it because of a few vocal fanboys on the internet who can't cope with change.

So thanks to the whiners, I can no longer

- share my library with my fanily

- play my games with the disk, protecting the disk

- switch games instantly since disk is required

- play my games on any of my consoles without remembering to bring the disk.

- lend games to friends

- rent games digitally. 

 

Thank you guys. you're awesome for saving me from this freedom. /s

 

Depending on the media type, you can do all but the last one

You need to now decide which type of media you wish to purchase your content on, digital or physical, both have pros and cons

But you get to decide which are more important to you.

I've got a feeling that some of these features (family sharing, fast switching, etc.) will be available for games you download but not for disc-based games. Steam-like digital distribution is the future and MS are unlikely to give up on it because of a few vocal fanboys on the internet who can't cope with change.

Fun fact: PS4's UI video shows all DD games being purchased and launched. So much for the draconian DRM in XB1. :S

lmao over a feature? You people are ridiculous. Guess no xbox one or ps4 since they basically the same right?  

 

Yeah no PS4 either, waste of time. The benefits that were gained from the restrictions, far outweighed some archaic attachment to physical media and saving a few dollars while being ripped off by GameStop or whatever they're called

  • Like 2

 

So thanks to the whiners, I can no longer

- share my library with my fanily

I can do this now. They can help themselves to my entire library. Crazy concept, they just pick it up off the shelf.

- play my games with the disk, protecting the disk

I assume you mean without? Just install it anyway, this means the disc doesn't get used.

- switch games instantly since disk is required

Its such a chore swapping discs.

- play my games on any of my consoles without remembering to bring the disk.

I guess youll just have to improve your memory. Try brain training.

- lend games to friends

Great news. You can now do this without restrictions.

- rent games digitally. 

You couldn't do this anyway.

 

Thank you guys. you're awesome for saving me from this freedom. /s

No problem. Some of us have the sense to think of whats best for the majority of consumers not just ourselves (Y).

 

Why would I want to run with my disk up and down the stairs, when I could have my entire libary working n both consoles here. and consoles elsewhere. and I could share my library with my family, including the ones living 2 hours away in Sweden. Andeven if I install the disk, I still need to take out the disk and have it in the console, as opposed to safe in a case on the shelf. not a chore. but sometimes I like to swap around games, untill I decide what to play. it's better not to require a disk, arguing that havign to insert a disk to change game is better is rather. ridiculous.

 

with their old system I could lend games digitally to my friends(not at launch but soon after), and they where implementing digital renting. way to keep up. 

My friend from within MS says this is in part due to the backlash from the community (they expected it), but mostly because of a request from the US Department of Defense that heard their troops in warzones were basically being shut out by the DRM.

 

Now all I hope is Family Sharing will return at some point for the digital games. I'm still going all digital next gen.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • Digisecret 2.1.431 Pro and Wzipse 4.0. Both are encrypted self-extracting archives.
    • Google reshuffles its AI coding team as it struggles to catch Anthropic by Karthik Mudaliar Google is already reorganizing the AI coding “strike team” it created roughly two months ago, as it attempts to find ways to close the gap with Anthropic in one of generative AI’s most commercially important areas. According to The Information, Google DeepMind is expanding the team’s focus to include “midtraining,” rather than concentrating only on coding tools and agents. Midtraining takes place after a model’s broad initial training but before the final stages that prepare it to follow instructions and perform specific tasks. In simple terms, it gives developers another opportunity to expose a model to carefully selected data before it is polished for release. That could help Google improve Gemini’s underlying coding abilities instead of relying only on better prompts, interfaces, or post-training. Previous research has found that midtraining can be particularly effective for code and mathematics, where models must move from general language knowledge to more structured tasks. Google reportedly created the original strike team in April. It was led by Google DeepMind research engineer Sebastian Borgeaud, who previously worked on model pretraining, and focused on complex, long-running programming jobs. Google co-founder Sergey Brin and Google DeepMind chief technology officer Koray Kavukcuoglu were also reportedly involved in the effort. DeepMind researchers were said to believe that Anthropic’s coding tools were outperforming Google’s Gemini models, prompting the company to give the project more attention. Anthropic has made coding a central part of its AI strategy through Claude Code and its Claude model family. The company has continued improving that area, with Claude Opus 4.8 offering upgrades for coding and other agentic tasks, along with the now-unavailable Mythos and Fable models. The reshuffle also comes at a time when Google faces increased competition for AI researchers. Gemini co-lead Noam Shazeer recently announced that he was leaving Google for OpenAI, while two other researchers who contributed to Gemini and DeepMind projects are reportedly preparing to join Anthropic. It remains unclear whether the reorganized team will produce a new public Gemini model or developer product. No release date, team size, or specific performance target has been disclosed. Source: The Information
  • Recent Achievements

    • First Post
      kinowa earned a badge
      First Post
    • Rookie
      krychek57 went up a rank
      Rookie
    • Grand Master
      Jaybonaut went up a rank
      Grand Master
    • One Year In
      Philsl earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Dedicated
      Scoobystu earned a badge
      Dedicated
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      413
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      168
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      132
    4. 4
      Xenon
      73
    5. 5
      Michael Scrip
      73
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!