Xbox One: No Games DRM or "Always Online"

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duddit2

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"Xbox battlefield 4" and your playing

 

"Xbox battlefield 4" and your getting up to insert the disk, maybe its scratched by the friend you lent it to, maybe you cant find it, maybe you just want to be able to say the f**king command and it happens.

 

Also, now I don't have access to the game libraries of 10 friends without going to their house and borrowing the game, assuming they are ok lending games to friends (I'm not, its now worth the price I paid instead of being a means of distribution, without the disk working I cant play it any more - EVER!)

 

STUPID,

STUPID,

STUPID,

STUPID,

STUPID,

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the better twin

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That's the one in a hundred thousand in the release countries. and that's estimating way high. a correct estimate and adjusting for the actual target audience would find this number even more ridiculous.

96% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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So much to say but I'll probably come back to this topic in a couple of days once the heat dies down.

 

Thank **** they saw the light though. I mean seriously. I still think it's pretty disgusting how they are playing this off in a "heroic" manner, telling us how much they've listened. Actually, no, I think you were forced more than anything because someone higher up knew whoever made these decisions was in the wrong & the whole devision was ready for going down the toilet. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they've changed their mind and reversed these policies. I thought it would take them a year at least before they did. The kind of message it sends out is still not positive. It shows they don't have faith in their decisions, they don't understand their market & their attention was only on trying to make as much money as possible.

 

You can't treat gaming like any other industry. This isn't the same audience for books/movies/tv and if you don't do what they want, you will sink. It's as simple as that. The whole smoke and mirrors they tried to do since the Reveal was a farce. Hiding behind the cloud features or how much more powerful the console can be because of it. Bull****. Nobody cares because you can't even get the basics right.

 

Right now I wouldn't trust Microsoft or Sony to add/remove some sort of DRM between now and launch, never mind what the future holds. It's clearly easy enough to remove, they've made that much evident, it's certainly easy enough to add back in.

 

The past month a lot of trust and love has been lost for the Xbox brand and boy do they have an uphill struggle on their hands to repair the damage. This will no doubt haunt them for years but it's probably necessary. Microsoft think they are untouchable right now in gaming & they can do no wrong. Their attitude (particularly over E3), was disgusting and the message they sent to gamers.

 

As it stands the Xbox One now has a fighting chance, but the PS4 is still objectively the better console. Better hardware, options, it's cheaper and it has the support of devs/indies. Microsoft still have a lot of work to do.

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MS gives the whiners, who were never going to buy an xbone in the first place, what they want.

 

Damn, hardly anyone was going to buy an Xbox One in the first place then?  :rofl:

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ahhell, on 19 Jun 2013 - 18:32, said:

MS gives the whiners, who were never going to buy an xbone in the first place, what they want.

This is very true. Some of the features that came about because of the always online functionality are what kind of got me a little excited. Now, I have to keep my disc in my tray, can't share my games with my family plan, can't lend games to people across the country, etc. What have they done?

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I always thought the phoning home every 24 hours was retarded. It was a big FU to people who didn't have internet or people who wanted to take their Xboxes with them where there was no internet..

 

No reason Microsoft can't give us those other features without phoning home. They just choose not to.

 

Now I know what it would have been like if Microsoft had listened and gave us back the start menu :D

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It looks like Microsoft is starting to think clearly again like with Windows 8.1 and now with the Xbox One. Good for Microsoft!

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Judging by the responses to this thread MS have given the PS4 fanboys what they wanted which is why the people who actually intended to buy an XB1 are complaining.

 

Nah, I pre-ordered the X1 on this news.

 

I can only hope they change the policy again, to add family sharing back in with digital distribution

Most people would expect the online requirements with digital distribution, the only problem was treating

physical media differently, while it sucks you'd have to download 3 to 25GB on the initial install, most people

who buy digital would be able to do this without an issue, and I believe you don't need to fully download to start

the game.

 

There is no reason they cannot do a good balance of both, and I expect we'll hear news at some point that they

plan on doing this, people just need to keep on their case about it, and they'll change the policy again.

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So Microsoft gives the people what they want, and they still complain?

You missed the point that 'people' is everyone, and some agreed and other disagreed with the policies.

 

So your post, where you say MS 'gives 'people' what they want' is inherently stupid, as 'people' includes both sets of 'people'.

 

You do understand this don't you?

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freak180

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"Xbox battlefield 4" and your playing

 

"Xbox battlefield 4" and your getting up to insert the disk, maybe its scratched by the friend you lent it to, maybe you cant find it, maybe you just want to be able to say the f**king command and it happens.

 

Also, now I don't have access to the game libraries of 10 friends without going to their house and borrowing the game, assuming they are ok lending games to friends (I'm not, its now worth the price I paid instead of being a means of distribution, without the disk working I cant play it any more - EVER!)

 

STUPID,

STUPID,

STUPID,

STUPID,

STUPID,

Such a work out to get up from the couch.. the pain the pain..

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Judging by the responses to this thread MS have given the PS4 fanboys what they wanted which is why the people who actually intended to buy an XB1 are complaining.

Pretty much.  I wanted one and now I don't.  I'll get it eventually, but it's no longer worth preordering.

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FiB3R

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"Xbox battlefield 4" and your playing

 

"Xbox battlefield 4" and your getting up to insert the disk, maybe its scratched by the friend you lent it to, maybe you cant find it, maybe you just want to be able to say the f**king command and it happens.

 

Also, now I don't have access to the game libraries of 10 friends without going to their house and borrowing the game, assuming they are ok lending games to friends (I'm not, its now worth the price I paid instead of being a means of distribution, without the disk working I cant play it any more - EVER!)

 

STUPID,

STUPID,

STUPID,

STUPID,

STUPID,

Can you point me to the official list of features that are now disabled?

 

Thanks.

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The Xbox One does offer a lot of great features and now no DRM or online. I am still sticking with my long time console which is the PlayStation, mostly because of the exclusive games like Gran Turismo etc and my longtime love for it. Hopefully now Microsoft will go on the right track and give people what they want and do things right.

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The only person I give a **** about is me. Other than that, it sort of ****es me off that welfare susan that lacks the internet is out there spending money on $500 game consoles in the first place.

 

What about minted Pete who lives in the country? He's got a diamond encrusted log cabin, but no ISP can be bothered cabling the countryside...

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duddit2

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Can you point me to the official list of features that are now disabled?

 

Thanks.

No, I cant be arsed to go to the main page of this site and look up the quote from a post on the main page. Its not that its a massive inconvenience for me to do it, but because you obviously cant be arsed so why the F**K should I?

I will say though, that confirmed is you have to have the disk in to play any disk game, and all digital games now cant be shared at all.

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 across the country?? Why would you be worried about people across the country not able to afford a video game??

 

It's not that they can't afford it. Let's say ex. Assassin's Creed 3. What, 90%(?) play the single player only. Why would my brother, sister or friend want to buy they're own game to only play single player, instead of using my copy when I'm finished. And wouldn't they appreciate being able to loan it without needing to send the game disc with the mail? Family sharing would simplify this scenario. Instead of buying another AC3 copy, my brother could buy a new Battlefield game or something, which again I could borrow without sending the disc. It's EASIER.

 

I apologize that all my family and friends doesn't live in the same town.

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