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?Batman v Superman? Director Zack Snyder Defends Aquaman on Detroit Radio

 

You guys were disparaging, a little bit, Aquaman?I don?t want to give anything away about the movie or anything like that but Aquaman has some cool abilities. People are like, ?Oh what? Does he talk to animals? Cause that seems like what he does. Or fish?? The cool thing with Aquaman is his Trident. So you have to realize that could cut the flesh of Superman if they came in contact. That?s a thing that?s in the canon. He?s super strong cause of course he can exist at these super deep depths so when he comes up here he?s crazy strong. Anyway, not to say he?s in my movie or anything like that but he has the potential to be bad ass, that?s all I?m saying.

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?Batman v Superman? Director Zack Snyder Defends Aquaman on Detroit Radio

 

 

You guys were disparaging, a little bit, Aquaman?I don?t want to give anything away about the movie or anything like that but Aquaman has some cool abilities. People are like, ?Oh what? Does he talk to animals? Cause that seems like what he does. Or fish?? The cool thing with Aquaman is his Trident. So you have to realize that could cut the flesh of Superman if they came in contact. That?s a thing that?s in the canon. He?s super strong cause of course he can exist at these super deep depths so when he comes up here he?s crazy strong. Anyway, not to say he?s in my movie or anything like that but he has the potential to be bad ass, that?s all I?m saying.

 

 

He's made a valid point, haters gonna hate. 

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Michael Uslan Reveals Bruce Wayne's Age In The Movie

 

Michael Uslan served as an executive producer on Tim Burton's Batman and then each of the subsequent movies right through to Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight Trilogy. Hhe will return in that role for 2016's Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, and spoke to app.com recently about the reaction to Ben Affleck being case as the Caped Crusader. "We?ve been through this I don?t know how many times already. Every time a director makes a creative, out-of-the-box-thinking decision on casting, it tends to get this. I remember even the ?Iron Man? (2008) guys got it on Robert Downey Jr. initially. Of course, we got it intensely when another genius, Chris Nolan, chose Heath Ledger to play the Joker (in 2008?s ?The Dark Knight?). And it was a huge outcry: ?How can a guy who just played a gay cowboy (in 2005?s ?Brokeback Mountain?) play the Joker? You?re going to destroy the greatest villain ever, this is going to be a laugh.? ?So, this has happened time and again, and it happened with Affleck. To go back to the original thought of Bruce Wayne in his mid-40s, I think he?s going to be extraordinary."

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Yeah, hold on, I don't quite get the thinking here.  If Bruce/Batman is in this "mid-40s" and this is suppose to be a setup for a JL movie and a bunch of other movies, how in gods name does that work out at all?  50 yo batman in the JL movie?  No way!  I question this thinking, 35 or so would be fine, tops but 45?  I don't know about this plan.

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Yeah, hold on, I don't quite get the thinking here.  If Bruce/Batman is in this "mid-40s" and this is suppose to be a setup for a JL movie and a bunch of other movies, how in gods name does that work out at all?  50 yo batman in the JL movie?  No way!  I question this thinking, 35 or so would be fine, tops but 45?  I don't know about this plan.

 

yea because an old batman would skew the realism of the universe altogether.

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yea because an old batman would skew the realism of the universe altogether.

There have been several recent attempted calculations of Batman's age in The New 52 series and they all run into problems related to the ages of the various Robins, Damian Wayne, Flashpoint and other factors.

What most all agree on is that in this current contrinity Batman/Bruce is between 40 and 48 years old.

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There have been several recent attempted calculations of Batman's age in The New 52 series and they all run into problems related to the ages of the various Robins, Damian Wayne, Flashpoint and other factors.

What most all agree on is that in this current contrinity Batman/Bruce is between 40 and 48 years old.

 

I'd agree with that if the movie universe had a Nightwing, because that gives us a good reference, but I don't know if they do/will, in which case, if you're going to plan to make more Batman movies following this one and in this new movie universe, I just feel he should be under 40 to start and then have him get older in the movies as they progress.

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There are several reports that Scoot McNairy will play Nightwing. Latino Review reported the part had been cast at about the same time he signed on.

McNairy is 32, about 13 years younger than the average of the age range Bats is supposed to be in the comics. If Bats was 25 when he took Dick in at 12 it would fit.

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There are several reports that Scoot McNairy will play Nightwing. Latino Review reported the part had been cast at about the same time he signed on.

McNairy is 32, about 13 years younger than the average of the age range Bats is supposed to be in the comics. If Bats was 25 when he took Dick in at 12 it would fit.

 

Then ok, it could work out fine then if indeed there is going to be a nightwing in this movie universe.  Nightwing movie spin-off in 2018??!?!?

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And later still a film with Terry McGinnis?

I'd love to see a Batman Beyond film, especially an adaptation of Return of the Joker. I'd be in fanboy heaven.

 

If a Nightwing spin-off movie does well then that gives WB more confidence to try a Batman Beyond movie IMO.  I think those two characters are pretty close actually.

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JASON MOMOA JOINS "BATMAN V SUPERMAN" AS AQUAMAN

After months of speculation and rumors, Variety reports that "Game of Thrones" actor Jason Momoa has been cast as Aquaman in Zack Snyder's upcoming "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice." Long rumored to be in talks to play the King of the Seven Seas, Momoa's casting as Aquaman marks the announcement of the first member of the Justice League in the DC Cinematic Universe since Gal Gadot was confirmed as Wonder Woman in December 2013.

Momoa is best known for his role as Khal Drogo in "Game of Thrones," as well as his work in the starring role of 2011's "Conan the Barbarian." He was also one of the main contenders for the role of Drax in "Guardians of the Galaxy," a role that eventually went to Dave Bautista. Rumors of Momoa's involvement in "Batman V Superman" began in December 2013, when it was reported he was in talks to join the film's cast.

While there was no confirmation until today that Aquaman would appear in the upcoming film, Zack Snyder recently called in to a Detroit radio show to defend Aquaman after the character came under fire by two morning show hosts.

"The cool thing is that with Aquaman, his trident -- people don't realize this -- that could actually cut the flesh of Superman, if they came in contact,? Snyder said during the radio show. "That's a thing that's in the canon. And he's super-strong, because of course, he can exist at these super-deep depths, so when he comes up here it's like he's crazy strong. ? Not to say he's in my movie, or anything like that, he's just pretty badass -- he has the potential to be badass. That's all I'm saying."

Opening March 25, 2016, "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice" stars Ben Affleck as Batman, Henry Cavill as Superman, Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor and more.

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Could they use this as the setup for the JL movie?  Atlantis attacking brings the JL together?  Or is it just a cameo so they can do a Aquaman movie next year and work him into the second JL movie which I'm pretty sure they're going to want to do, because why stop at one right?  :P

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Could they use this as the setup for the JL movie?  Atlantis attacking brings the JL together?  Or is it just a cameo so they can do a Aquaman movie next year and work him into the second JL movie which I'm pretty sure they're going to want to do, because why stop at one right?  :p

 

I think it's safe to say that this is a Justice League movie given the numerous characters involved, the name itself being Dawn of Justice, and it's not a Man of Steel sequel.

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I think it's safe to say that this is a Justice League movie given the numerous characters involved, the name itself being Dawn of Justice, and it's not a Man of Steel sequel.

This film is the film that ties into the Justice League. It isn't a Justice League film on it's own though because most of the JL members in this film have cameo roles, like Cyborg etc. The Man of Steel sequel is slated for a different year.

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If you look closely, you'll see that that's Scoot McNairy who's sitting there. He's rumoured (but a high possibility) to be Nightwing in this film.

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This film is the film that ties into the Justice League. It isn't a Justice League film on it's own though because most of the JL members in this film have cameo roles, like Cyborg etc. The Man of Steel sequel is slated for a different year.

 

I think a more apt description would be Justice League prequel, which would still make this a Justice League movie. The only other description would be a generic DC Comics movie, but that just sounds lame. :P

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You can think of it like a JL setup/primer movie but it's still going to be heavy with superman and batman and then everyone else.  It's still up in the air just how much screen time WW will even have, and remember that the rumors say in the movie she won't even be called WW yet iirc.

 

For a proper JL movie of some type then the screen time has to be pretty much even between Superman, Batman, WW, GL, Flash and Cyborg etc.   If most of those other characters see a few seconds at best then I don't count it.

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I think a more apt description would be Justice League prequel, which would still make this a Justice League movie. The only other description would be a generic DC Comics movie, but that just sounds lame. :p

Well, that is exactly what it is, a prequel to the Justice League film. But calling it a Justice League film is kinda misdirecting because the Justice League isn't in it nor is it formed yet. And most of it's members are only cameo roles in this film.

Superman and Batman are of course the main characters. Then you get the prominent characters from both of their worlds (Alfred, Lois, Lex, etc.) who will all have a significant role in this film as far as I can tell. Then you get Wonder Woman and Aquaman, who'll have a significant role in this films as well. And after that you get the other members, Cyborg etc, who'll only have cameo roles in this film.

So imo it pretty much is a film about Batman and Superman in DC's Cinematic Universe, before they're forming the Justice League. The title of the film also tells us that it's a prequel to the Justice League film, like you said, and not actually a Justice League film.

Everyone is free to have their own interpretation of course, but calling it a Justice League film is misdirecting imo :p

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