EBOLA Outbreak

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Gotenks98

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Regardless if the decision was made by higher ups they still should have refused treatment in the USA. Its not fair to the rest of the nation. This would be like me going to work knowing I have TB and hoping I don't spread it. They can wear all the space suits in the world but all it takes is one tiny mistake and this thing will blow. I don't trust the CDC at all giving the recent events with the anthrax samples they didnt properly handle. What makes you think they can handle this. Also I used to work for the hospital where the patients are currently being kept so I know how incompetent their employees can be. While doing a quarantine of Africa now would not help if they had done this earlier then we might have a chance.

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Regardless if the decision was made by higher ups they still should have refused treatment in the USA. Its not fair to the rest of the nation. 

It's not fair...how? I don't see how your rights are being breached.

 

This would be like me going to work knowing I have TB and hoping I don't spread it. 

Not really a valid analogy - everyone at your work is protected against TB.

 

They can wear all the space suits in the world but all it takes is one tiny mistake and this thing will blow.

If you listen to the expert consensus - what they are saying is that this situation won't suddenly and catastrophically go pear-shaped if a tiny mistake is made. The flu is more dangerous than these Ebola patients. 

 

I don't trust the CDC at all giving the recent events with the anthrax samples they didnt properly handle. What makes you think they can handle this.

Different people at the CDC, no evidence of major systemic flaws encompassing the entire organisation. 

 

Also I used to work for the hospital where the patients are currently being kept so I know how incompetent their employees can be. 

Same as above. One (or a few) incompetent employees do not define an organisation. If you could state for a fact that some of the specialist employees involved in this are incompetent, then your point would become more valid. 

 

While doing a quarantine of Africa now would not help if they had done this earlier then we might have a chance

And how was this proposed quarantine of 'Africa' going to work? Furthermore - why would it be necessary? Also, Ebola has not spread outside 'Africa', so what has suddenly changed that makes this hypothetical quarantine ineffectual?

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Regardless if the decision was made by higher ups they still should have refused treatment in the USA. Its not fair to the rest of the nation. This would be like me going to work knowing I have TB and hoping I don't spread it. They can wear all the space suits in the world but all it takes is one tiny mistake and this thing will blow. I don't trust the CDC at all giving the recent events with the anthrax samples they didnt properly handle. What makes you think they can handle this. Also I used to work for the hospital where the patients are currently being kept so I know how incompetent their employees can be. While doing a quarantine of Africa now would not help if they had done this earlier then we might have a chance.

 

 

Holy ignorance batman. The nation is not at risk, this isn't some zombie plague that turns people into mindless virus sprinklers. You stand a greater chance of being hit by a meteorite and struck by lighting at the same time then getting Ebola. Stop the fear mongering, hell the nation prob has a greater chance of another 3 mile island then an Ebola outbreak. Again if you want to play the fear card, the doctors are not the risk, the risk lies with someone not even knowing they are infected traveling from over seas. That's a far greater risk then 2 people under the security as tight as Fort Knox. 

 

Also if you have the hospital experience you claim, then you know damn well people face greater dangers from more common viruses then some exotic one. Im going to call BS on your experience, even a basic hospital secretary would understand that. Lastly the idea of the African continent being quarantined is just retarded. 

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Gotenks98

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Ok then explain to me why the isolation unit is at most 2 whole rooms away from the Cafeteria of that hospital? I have a reliable source that works there that has seen the patients. The area they are kept is not far enough away from the rest of the hospital. Not sure if thats a design flaw or just they chose to put them there. When the ###### hits the fan we shall see. Also to those who keep mentioning zombies, you do know that the ebola virus was used to create the T-Virus in the resident evil/bio hazard game series. http://residentevil.wikia.com/Ebola_virus I am not saying thats going to happen but you never know.

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FloatingFatMan

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Ok then explain to me why the isolation unit is at most 2 whole rooms away from the Cafeteria of that hospital? I have a reliable source that works there that has seen the patients. The area they are kept is not far enough away from the rest of the hospital. Not sure if thats a design flaw or just they chose to put them there. When the ###### hits the fan we shall see. Also to those who keep mentioning zombies, you do know that the ebola virus was used to create the T-Virus in the resident evil/bio hazard game series. http://residentevil.wikia.com/Ebola_virus I am not saying thats going to happen but you never know.

 

What matters distance?  Ebola can only be transmitted by direct contact with body fluids... It's not airborne, so distance has zero relevance.

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Ok then explain to me why the isolation unit is at most 2 whole rooms away from the Cafeteria of that hospital? I have a reliable source that works there that has seen the patients. The area they are kept is not far enough away from the rest of the hospital. Not sure if thats a design flaw or just they chose to put them there. When the ###### hits the fan we shall see. Also to those who keep mentioning zombies, you do know that the ebola virus was used to create the T-Virus in the resident evil/bio hazard game series. http://residentevil.wikia.com/Ebola_virus I am not saying thats going to happen but you never know.

As stated above, distance doesn't matter so much as physical barriers against contact with virus particles. Perhaps you are thinking of radiation, in which there is a direct distance-from-source component to exposure.

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Ok then explain to me why the isolation unit is at most 2 whole rooms away from the Cafeteria of that hospital? I have a reliable source that works there that has seen the patients. The area they are kept is not far enough away from the rest of the hospital. Not sure if thats a design flaw or just they chose to put them there. When the ###### hits the fan we shall see. Also to those who keep mentioning zombies, you do know that the ebola virus was used to create the T-Virus in the resident evil/bio hazard game series. http://residentevil.wikia.com/Ebola_virus I am not saying thats going to happen but you never know.

 

Also... I just noticed this.. I can't believe you quoted a game wiki site as source for your info on a real life disease... :rofl:

 

If I said what I was thinking now, I'd get banned! :p

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Villagers began running from the ambulances, trying to burn down hospitals, and attacking humanitarian workers.

 

This reminds me a little about my Haitian neighbors.

 

 

Which makes the already difficult job those workers have even harder and more dangerous. The only group of people who can help are the ones being attacked & potentially could be killed. It reminds me of the aid workers in Pakistan who are killed for trying to vaccinate children.

 

Humans: a strange bunch.

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Gotenks98

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Also... I just noticed this.. I can't believe you quoted a game wiki site as source for your info on a real life disease... :rofl:

 

If I said what I was thinking now, I'd get banned! :p

Its not me posting a source just me posting something thats kind of related. The whole story of Resident Evil/BioHazard was based on them trying to weaponize Ebola. Given how corrupt government is these days I wouldn't put it past them to want to find a way to leak this for testing purposes of course.

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Its not me posting a source just me posting something thats kind of related. The whole story of Resident Evil/BioHazard was based on them trying to weaponize Ebola. Given how corrupt government is these days I wouldn't put it past them to want to find a way to leak this for testing purposes of course.

 

 

 

LOL that's like saying Star Wars is related because we have the space shuttle. 

 

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Regardless if the decision was made by higher ups they still should have refused treatment in the USA. Its not fair to the rest of the nation. This would be like me going to work knowing I have TB and hoping I don't spread it. They can wear all the space suits in the world but all it takes is one tiny mistake and this thing will blow. I don't trust the CDC at all giving the recent events with the anthrax samples they didnt properly handle. What makes you think they can handle this. Also I used to work for the hospital where the patients are currently being kept so I know how incompetent their employees can be. While doing a quarantine of Africa now would not help if they had done this earlier then we might have a chance.

 

 

Ok then explain to me why the isolation unit is at most 2 whole rooms away from the Cafeteria of that hospital? I have a reliable source that works there that has seen the patients. The area they are kept is not far enough away from the rest of the hospital. Not sure if thats a design flaw or just they chose to put them there. When the ###### hits the fan we shall see. Also to those who keep mentioning zombies, you do know that the ebola virus was used to create the T-Virus in the resident evil/bio hazard game series. http://residentevil.wikia.com/Ebola_virus I am not saying thats going to happen but you never know.

 

 

Its not me posting a source just me posting something thats kind of related. The whole story of Resident Evil/BioHazard was based on them trying to weaponize Ebola. Given how corrupt government is these days I wouldn't put it past them to want to find a way to leak this for testing purposes of course.

 

With this string of comments it leads me to call BS on you having any medical related role what-so-ever and also as stated various times before the Ebola virus can only spread from bodily fluid transfer (e.g intercourse) or them having a open wound (likely due to the symptoms of the virus) and you having an open wound and then you both rub each others open wounds transferring blood and other bodily fluids. (e.g In some tribal burials its customary to touch the dead persons body, if the person doing the touching has an open wound on their hand like a small cut of some sort they are likely to also catch the virus).

 

So the likeliness of Ebola spreading throughout the US just because the two US citizens were brought back for better medical care is basically zero even if the hospital staff are completely incompetent.

 

It's not like the flu where it is airborne and you can sneeze on someone and they can catch it also, its similar to HIV(AIDS), Hep A, B and C, Chlamydia, Gonorrhoea and many others.

 

As for the Resident Evil comments. Zombies are a story plot created for entertainment, not a real life scenario governments are trying to recreate...

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Its not me posting a source just me posting something thats kind of related. The whole story of Resident Evil/BioHazard was based on them trying to weaponize Ebola. Given how corrupt government is these days I wouldn't put it past them to want to find a way to leak this for testing purposes of course.

 

Not to dwell on the absurdity of using Resident Evil as a virology reference, but you're actually wrong in terms of the fiction too.

 

The T-Virus was derived from the Progenitor virus, which itself in turn was derived from some weird flowers. Ebola isn't related, the game wiki you linked describes as much.

 

Have to say dude, being wrong in terms of both fantasy and reality - that's gotta sting.

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DocM

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Ok then explain to me why the isolation unit is at most 2 whole rooms away from the Cafeteria of that hospital?

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And there's an area hospital here whose morgue is 3 doors down from the kitchen entrance. That doesn't mean that the recently deceased Uncle Charlie is on the Monday Special platter. "2-3 doors" on a hospital service floor can be >100 feet or more.

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KeeperOfThePizza

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1 - It's a highly contagious disease.

2- Dealing with the outbreak, mostly means isolating people that were contaminated.

Things can still go out of control.

It's not as contagious as people think, if it somehow mutates and turns airborne then we're screwed.

 

Taken from NBC

 

The virus doesn?t live for long outside the body. Ultraviolet rays from sunlight destroy it, as does heat. Bleach kills it and plain soap and water can wash it away. Warm body fluids such as blood, vomit and feces carry the virus. And it has to get into the body to infect you ? it doesn?t soak in through the skin, for instance. It must get in through the nose, mouth, eyes, through a cut or by a needle stick.

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It's not as contagious as people think, if it somehow mutates and turns airborne then we're screwed.

 

 

And it's unlikely that it will become airborne. Most human viruses don't. 

 

Just learned that. Funny how everyone's an expert on Ebola since it got here. 

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