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Couple of things i notice.

 

The highlight color under the app on task bar is gone.

 

Cortana missing icons.

 

Quick access Icon is different than 9926.(if screenshots are real, that means icons are still being worked on)

 

Actually, I think it might still be there. The highlight appears only when the app (or window) isn't the one in focus. When you have it as your main window, it appears just like in the screenshot above (it's in 9926). Since there are no other applications open, we can't really tell. 

Actually, I think it might still be there. The highlight appears only when the app (or window) isn't the one in focus. When you have it as your main window, it appears just like in the screenshot above (it's in 9926). Since there are no other applications open, we can't really tell. 

No im talking about the line under apps that are open.

 

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No im talking about the line under apps that are open.

 

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I see what you mean. I was under the impression that the bar only appears when the window is not in focus. It's quite a nice touch, but who knows, it might come back. 

Icons are looking nice. 

 

Really? I honestly don't see it. I really like the Office 2013 style icons that are in 9901.

Reported 10009 Screenshot:

 

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From IThome.com

 

Posted: https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1231563-win7-upgrade-to-windows-10-tp/page-7#entry596744844 as well

 

Notice the new icons:

Recycle

Drives

Disc Drives

User Icon

Quick Access

Control Panel (!?!)

The title bar graphics are boring and the icons are ugly. Everyone seems to think this kind of watered down flat UI is cool. I just don't get it.

The title bar graphics are boring and the icons are ugly. Everyone seems to think this kind of watered down flat UI is cool. I just don't get it.

 

 

sure a lot better than ugly fake bevels and faux glass and crap like that. straight and to the point, clean and none distracting.

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Reported 10009 Screenshot:

 

20150206_105434_403.jpg

 

From IThome.com

 

Posted: https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1231563-win7-upgrade-to-windows-10-tp/page-7#entry596744844 as well

 

Notice the new icons:

Recycle

Drives

Disc Drives

User Icon

Quick Access

Control Panel (!?!)

 

Maybe they'll include a link to the control panel for backwards compatibility for software not upgraded to the new 'Settings' way of doing things? it'll be a while before we start seeing software vendors upgrade their software for Windows 10 unfortunately.

Maybe they'll include a link to the control panel for backwards compatibility for software not upgraded to the new 'Settings' way of doing things? it'll be a while before we start seeing software vendors upgrade their software for Windows 10 unfortunately.

Unfortunately, all too true.  Worse, some software won't be upgraded at all; after all, how much (in the way of desktop software) was upgraded installer-wise for 8+? (That is the only REAL upgrade most desktop software needs - their installers.)

sure a lot better than ugly fake bevels and faux glass and crap like that. straight and to the point, clean and none distracting.

Maybe you should go back to this then:

 

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Unfortunately, all too true.  Worse, some software won't be upgraded at all; after all, how much (in the way of desktop software) was upgraded installer-wise for 8+? (That is the only REAL upgrade most desktop software needs - their installers.)

 

It is amazing that in this day and age we still have developers who INSIST on having their own custom installer rather than just using an MSI package because you know that would require far more common sense than most developers seem to be capable of. Microsoft now includes OneGet as standard with Windows 10 - I wonder how many software vendors will make use of OneGet instead of having their own custom 'sitting in the background always checking for new updates' daemon instead of using OneGet. One of the things I do love about with the OS X world is how quickly developers embrace change instead of the usual groans that come from Windows developers as if they were saying, "so you're telling me I'm actually going to have to do my job for once and maintain the code rather than just sitting around in the office playing ping pong?".

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sure a lot better than ugly fake bevels and faux glass and crap like that. straight and to the point, clean and none distracting.

They are hardly clean :/ I see jaggies everywhere. Looks like jaggies and retina burning colors are in and flatness is out.

Maybe you should go back to this then:

fcp5j5.jpg

Still has too many fake bevels. Plus the colour scheme is too hard. Loved the pastel scheme though.

I think the screenshot is legit.

Dot, Do you like the icons?

 

Also Cortana loading needs to be sped up. The time from click to opening is slow and even on WP it is slightly sluggish. Yes its a beta, but there have been little to no updates. With siri on the iPad, the microphone activates instantly. I would love to say Cortana take a picture, or Cortana snap a screenshot, or Cortana translate this, or Cortana speech to text, but for little things Cortana is too slow to activate (from cold boot).

that's as ridiculous and irrelevant as those posting windows 1 and AOL "comparison"

 

also, that one still has bevels, I thought you claimed to be a "designer"...

I didn't design this. It's a screenshot of WfW 3.11. Don't you recognize it?

 

So all you guys think an OS from 25 years ago has a dated UI? LOL MS must be listening to you, because they have designed probably the most ugly and boring UI in history.

It is amazing that in this day and age we still have developers who INSIST on having their own custom installer rather than just using an MSI package because you know that would require far more common sense than most developers seem to be capable of. Microsoft now includes OneGet as standard with Windows 10 - I wonder how many software vendors will make use of OneGet instead of having their own custom 'sitting in the background always checking for new updates' daemon instead of using OneGet. One of the things I do love about with the OS X world is how quickly developers embrace change instead of the usual groans that come from Windows developers as if they were saying, "so you're telling me I'm actually going to have to do my job for once and maintain the code rather than just sitting around in the office playing ping pong?".

Either they embrace the Apple Way (if they want to stay) or leave - with OS X, there is no choice at all.  (The difference with iOS, surprisingly, is that there is MORE choice than there is with OS X.)

Speaking of old Things Apple Going Away, have the MacOS/OS X users among us forgotten about "haxies"?  The haxy is the MacOS/OSX version of uxtheme patching - it predates OS X (it goes back all the way to OS 8, in fact), and was used strictly as a dress-up mechanism (the same way uxtheme patching works in Windows).  However, it started getting harder to use haxies with Snow Leopard, and became impossible with Lion.  (I think the developer had a clue - he sold the company behind the haxy to Smith Micro Software before Mountain Lion's launch.)  If anything, OS X developers - those that have stayed - have become as conformist as any dictatorship.  It may be elegant and consistent, but the price paid is conformity and control - both are ceded to Apple.

 

With Windows, on the other hand, there has ALWAYS been installer choice - one of the oldest installers for Windows, in fact, is NOT a Microsoft product; have we forgotten about InstallShield?  InstallShield was, in fact, the default installer for a LOT of desktop software - including the first Win32 versions of Office.  (A copy of it was typically included with Visual Studio - and other IDEs as well, including Borland's, Intel's, and even Symantec's development tools.  Yes - I DID say "Symantec" - while Symantec may be BEST known for security tools, they have a surprisingly LONG history in terms of developer tools - they and Microsoft are the original JOINT stakeholder of the Windows Foundation Classes.)  All the OTHER installers (including Microsoft's own MSI) were designed to provide options to InstallShield - primarily due to cost/price; a full license for InstallShield is quite pricey, and even Microsoft resented getting continually stung.  Lots of choice - Microsoft's guideline are, in fact, just that.  That is, of course, also the reason for the lack of UI (or UX) consistency - some developers (Adobe, for example) use their UI/UX as branding.  In other words, the developers can (and should) share some of the responsibility for the inconsistency of the UI in Windows.

 

The point I have been trying to make is that despite (or even possibly BECAUSE) of the UI/UX inconsistency within Windows, Windows has become known as an operating system for independent thinkers because it is NOT conformist, or even all that elegant.  In other words, Windows actually reflects the country in which it was born - the United States.  It's not Mercedes, or Audi - and it's definitely not Porsche.  It's Chevrolet - and it is as proud of that independent non-conformist attitude as Chevy fanatics are of the "bowtie" logo that Chevrolet has had nearly from the beginning.

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