[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

[Dot Matrix]

Sorry, but your concept isn't appropriate for desktops.  Too much wasted space...throw back to 800x600 days.

Again, Windows 10 design elements aren't wasting anymore space than exists already. Below is the concept (now expanded for a 1680x1050 screen) blended with Windows 8.1 Explorer in its default state. (I'm starting to feel as if I should have thrown my Explorer angst into a separate thread at this point. Apologies for inadvertently derailing this one.)

 

[Jim K Global Moderator]

Again, Windows 10 design elements aren't wasting anymore space than exists already. Below is the concept (now expanded for a 1680x1050 screen) blended with Windows 8.1 Explorer in its default state. (I'm starting to feel as if I should have thrown my Explorer angst into a separate thread at this point.)

 

Explorer Blended.png

 

What?  Per that snapshot you can clearly see how your concept wastes much more space then the default state of Windows 8.1 Explorer.  If Windows 10 went your route.... *sigh* ...it would suck.

[Dot Matrix]

If Windows 10 went your route.... *sigh* ...it would suck.

Windows 10 is already going this route. This concept was created from UX elements already in the preview builds.

[benthebear]

Yes, Search. It's quicker than clicking around like a mad man, and takes you were you need to go with less energy - Type in a few keywords, and the OS will do the rest.

 

 

Sometimes, it's quicker to click around like a mad man if you know where something is than wait for your computer to chew through a couple of terabytes of data.

 

And you're loosing focus on the fact that it's just a concept based off what is currently available in Windows 10. The concept is based off a 1366x768 screenshot I took on my Laptop, currently running b9926. Obviously, there's going to be less room, but the sidebar and Ribbon are both collapsible, creating more room for users with smaller screens. Sorry you feel the way you do about tabs, and smartphones, but they're what's driving computing today. A responsive OS needs responsive applications, with an updated design, updated controls, and a revised workflow. Using the current Explorer in b9926 makes me feel like I was just thrown right back into 1995.

There is nothing in this concept that would prohibit desktop users from working like they do now.

 

 

And your concept should have the same affect because it's pretty much a three color version of what we have now. I don't see how that makes it new, modern, or revises workflow like you claim.

 

Again, Windows 10 design elements aren't wasting anymore space than exists already. Below is the concept (now expanded for a 1680x1050 screen) blended with Windows 8.1 Explorer in its default state. (I'm starting to feel as if I should have thrown my Explorer angst into a separate thread at this point.)

 

Explorer Blended.png

 

But since you've removed a lot of the elements that caused the 8.1 explorer to take up the space it did, and stripped it bare, it shouldn't take up the same amount of space. Know what I mean? Overlaying your mock up over what we have now highlights how much space that's being wasted, and that you pretty much just took what we have now and painted it black.

[+Warwagon MVC]

What?  Per that snapshot you can clearly see how your concept wastes much more space then the default state of Windows 8.1 Explorer.  If Windows 10 went your route.... *sigh* ...it would suck.

 

Good point. it does take up MUCH more of the screen.

[Dot Matrix]

Good grief. Windows 10 is going to be a bummer for you guys, isn't it?  

[spaceelf]

Just to throw my two cents in, cause it's probably all I can afford right now...haha

 

I don't see the point Dot.  I like it for 1080p and high DPI which is going to be more of a thing going forward, but no matter what they change there's going to be the same amount of handwringing that it isn't Windows XP.

 

Basically, even though I like it, I just don't see the need for it yet.  I'm sure MS will continue to improve things, but I doubt this is on the table right now.

 

Though I would agree Explorer still being GDI (I'm assuming it is, anyway) seems like a really big flaw in the core of Windows.

[TAZMINATOR]

Good grief. Windows 10 is going to be a bummer for you guys, isn't it?  

 

If you want modern file explorer, go to the store to get that app yourself. The icons are too big for me. Lame looking on the desktop. I am sure this app looks fine on tablets.

 

I don't want that on my desktop.. I like the way the file explorer is as of now just like 8.1 and 7.  I like small icons or listing on my end.

 

Everyone is entitled to their preferences. You can NOT expect that everyone like the same thing...

 

For example, you like Windows, your wife likes Apple.    

 

I don't care what my girlfriend/wife use/have as long as she is happy with.

[benthebear]

Good grief. Windows 10 is going to be a bummer for you guys, isn't it?  

 

Windows 10? We're talking about your mock up.

[nosense]

IMO explorer is fine. All they need to do to it is add a dark theme, if they're going to have light and dark theme for windows.

[Jim K Global Moderator]

Windows 10 is already going this route. This concept was created from UX elements already in the preview builds.

 

Which is fine.  I have nothing against the actual looks of your concept.  What I do have a problem with is that it is just way to big...way to much wasted space...and looks as if it was developed for the visually impared.  Like the Modern UI calculator...it looks great on the Windows Phone...but absolutely takes up too much space on the desktop.

 

If you're having trouble seeing 16x16 (or whatever) icons..then you should get some of these...instead of trying to mess up my desktop.

 

I personally do not have any issue seeing anything within Windows 7.

[nosense]

Really?Calc size is fine for me.

 

[Jackaluichi]

IMO explorer is fine. All they need to do to it is add a dark theme, if they're going to have light and dark theme for windows.

And add the possibility to open new instances in tabs. I hope they eventually do that.

[Jim K Global Moderator]

Really?Calc size is fine for me.

 

Maybe for you.

 

But I'd like for it to be much smaller (i.e. w32 calc size)

 

But....let's not turn this into another Calculator thread.  The other one went way off and eventually got locked.  

 

I agree to disagree.

[gohpep]

I really like Nautilus (except for the exclusion of an instant address bar in the bread crumbs)

[Dot Matrix]

Windows 10? We're talking about your mock up.

My mockup contains nothing new that isn't already inside Windows 10. It was created using a screengrab of the Photos app, using elements of the File Explorer seen in the new Windows Phone preview, and with a little inspiration by the Tweetium app and myself. The tiles were inspired by the tiles you already see in Windows Phone 8.1.

The elements were directly copied from the Photos app screenshot I took, and Brad's screenshots on the front page. I retained the basic layout that you see now in Windows Explorer in Windows 8.1 (to help reduce learning curve), while adding in the Metro elements.

 

If you're not a fan of the mockup, then I'm not sure you're going to be a fan of anything else inside Windows 10 once it's complete.

[SekaiStory]

It' a shame some of their screenshots from the Windows 10 event were UI mockups that looked way better than the current product, I really hope they add in transparency. ;-;

[Dot Matrix]

It' a shame some of their screenshots from the Windows 10 event were UI mockups that looked way better than the current product, I really hope they add in transparency. ;-;

They are. They were using newer builds than what we got at the event.

[benthebear]

If you're not a fan of the mockup, then I'm not sure you're going to be a fan of anything else inside Windows 10 once it's complete.

 

That's a pretty big conclusion to jump to, Dot. I've been using Windows 10 TP for over a week now, and there's a lot of stuff in it that I'm a fan of. I'm just not a fan of what you think explorer will look like in the end product. I'm sure Microsoft will come up with something better. It's a wait and see I guess.

[nosense]

It' a shame some of their screenshots from the Windows 10 event were UI mockups that looked way better than the current product, I really hope they add in transparency. ;-;

It's going to be added and was shown in build 10009. This also have been discussed before.

 

Transparency will be coming for task bar and start menu.

[SekaiStory]

They are. They were using newer builds than what we got at the event.

 

I still think the build Phil Spencer was using was a mockup video at the start, hence why the Xbox logo took up the entire screen to boot.

[indospot Veteran]

It is coming and that was stated by Microsoft as I saw someone quote here on Neowin. I can't source it right now, but I'm sure it was said.

[nosense]

 

 

[Jan Veteran]

It's going to be added and was shown in build 10009. This also have been discussed before.

 

Transparency will be coming for task bar and start menu.

 

Where's the transparent start menu in 10009? So far we've only seen the new icons and Spartan?

[nosense]

Where's the transparent start menu in 10009? So far we've only seen the new icons and Spartan?

Whoops i got mixed up it wasn't shown in build 10009, but the task bar transparency was shown in the same video that had a brief glimpse of 10009.