[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

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  1. 1. On a scale of 1-5, 1 being worst, 5 being best. What do you think of Windows 10 from the leaks so far?

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  2. 2. Based on the recent leaks by Neowin and Winfuture.de, my next OS upgrade will be?

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  3. 3. Should Microsoft give away Windows 10 for free?

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Grand Master

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I tried that already and it will not install because I am running windows 10.

 

EDIT: The INFUpdate driver installed and that got rid of the SMBus controller one so that is installed.

 

EDIT 2: Okay so now both have installed.They wouldn't before on the previous build of Windows 10 that was released publically.

 

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Odd. Oh well TY for your help anyway :).

Glad you got it working bud. Also for future reference, Windows 8/8.1 drivers will work for anything in Windows 10. 

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how am i supposed to change network properties , any trick or workaround?

 

it  give "unexpected error" massage

 

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got it fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling WIFI driver

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BajiRav

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Noticed couple of new things in 10041,

-the maps app is now auto downloading maps I have on the phone

-weird all-caps message in Windows Update (Pending restart to install 10041 updates)

SELFHOST: CLICKING RESTART NOW MAY TAKE 5-10 MINUTES TO RESTART

Grand Master

Dashel

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I don't think it is a misguided way of saying that something is easier. Clicking / tapping / touching a 64x64 icon, for example, would be easier than doing so with one that is 32x32.

 

I never said that the Start screen backgrounds were chrome. In fact I had never even thought of them as such until you mentioned them.

 

The point with the images was not the Documents folder but that the targets for "All Apps" are easier to interact with in Windows 8.1 than in Windows 10 because of their size. The new "All Apps" view in Windows 10 is very much mouse-oriented

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Ian W

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You still didn't answer my question, do you have trouble hitting the target on phone?

Often times I wish the targets were a bit larger, yes.

So why not 512x512 icons or 2048x2048?  'Can they', sure, but where does your rule break down?

Technically the rule doesn't break down but it also depends on other factors as well, such as screen resolution, DPI scaling, et cetera. It is, however, not my rule. I will now forward you to the Microsoft article on the UI. Larger elements are not only beneficial for touch devices, they also benefit mouse users.

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I also have no idea what your point about 'categories' are still.

Because AFAIK one cannot sort applications by "name," "date installed," "most used," or "category" in Windows 10.

 

Your 'Documents' sizing point further backs up that MS made the right adjustment, as the Win10 sizing is between the two Win8 sizes.  Further, to say its mouse oriented is simply unfounded.  The targets aren't 'significantly' smaller, nor does the mere existence of a constrained list view have any bearing on input used.

The Windows 10 sizing is not between the Windows 8.1 sizes. While it is 3 pixels taller than an app target in Windows 8.1 when the "show more apps" feature is enabled, its width is 71 pixels shorter when compared to both modes in Windows 8.1.

 

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Windows 8.1 default target size (purple) compared with target in Windows 10 (teal).

 

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Windows 8.1 "show more apps" target size (purple) compared with target in Windows 10 (teal).

 

This shows that in Windows 8.1 there is a tradeoff to make between the two modes. Application targets will be slightly smaller when the "show more apps" option is enabled, but more applications will appear on the screen at one time. While the Windows 10 target is 3 pixels taller, the "show more apps" target makes up for this increase in height with its larger width

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The mail and calendar apps are combined.

 

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WinJS 4 was announced today. http://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2015/03/27/a-preview-of-winjs-4-0/

It includes a new two column view, called SplitView, which allows for navigation on the left, and the main content on the right. They also added a toolbar, AngularJS support, gamepad support, a redesign of Pivot, and a new selection/list UI.

 

It is expected that WinJS 4.1 will be released along with Windows 10.

Rising Star

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If anyone encountered a bug with Zune on Win10 TP (that is, if anyone is still using WP7 device and syncing it with W10) when UI of Zune app disappears and nothing can be done with it apart from using play controls from the system/taskbar, here is a solution.

I suspect this happened after Nvidia driver update, but it also could be a DPI scaling problem. So I added setting for Zune in Nvidia control panel to make it use integrated GPU (intel) instead of default external (nvidia). And also set the checkbox on cancelling DPI scaling within compatibility setting of the app. That made it work again.

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Dashel

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Because AFAIK one cannot sort applications by "name," "date installed," "most used," or "category" in Windows 10.

 

The Windows 10 sizing is not between the Windows 8.1 sizes. While it is 3 pixels taller than an app target in Windows 8.1 when the "show more apps" feature is enabled, its width is 71 pixels shorter when compared to both modes in Windows 8.1.

I would hate trying to pin applications from "All Apps" in Windows 10 with my finger!

I don't recall positioning it as a replacement for the desktop. That was not Microsoft's intention either when developing Windows 8

Grand Master

Ian W

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Its insulting that you keep linking to articles I'm quite familiar with, and that you want to 'splain it them to me.

I'm not going to apologize for it. I thought you said you weren't going to continue this debate?

 

The only 'filter' you can't apply to Start currently is the category filter, the rest are in.

Would you mind proving this? A screenshot of the options to change the category filter(s) will suffice.

 

Width hardly matters as the smaller dimension is the primary bottleneck.

. . . What are you trying to say?

 

Pinning will be much easier now that they we can drag and drop from the list, something the 'full screen' approach will never give and always be a barrier to the pinning process.

I noticed that you didn't address how the Start menu in Windows 10 throws out the features that benefited touch users and mouse + keyboard users. I guess that's alright since we can drag and drop now?

 

"And if you want to stay permanently immersed in that Metro world, you will never see the desktop
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I'm really enjoying using the latest windows 10 tech preview.

 

Way better than windows 8 or 8.1, which both i hated.

 

I just hope they get the  UI more consistent before the final release. Also clean up the settings. This is a confusing vague mess.

 

but over all its really nice.

Grand Master

Dot Matrix

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This is why we don't have nice things. Guy installs Windows as his primary OS, and yells at Microsoft when it breaks his work:

https://twitter.com/sakiski_ki/status/582417677290844160

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PotatoAlchemist

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@sakiski_ki: "Oh Yeah, wait and endure the fact that I cannot work with major Adobe applications and many others!"

Oh wow arrogant much? And what's up with the major Adobe applications? I mean just because he's having problems with it and wants to run them, does it mean he's above the rest?

 

The cycle is simple: you keep testing and bug reporting the latest build, until a newer one appears in which case you'll focus on that.

However, if you have a critical production machine that you're working with, rule of thumb: don't install a prerelease OS as your primary one, instead stick with a stable release, while having Windows 10 as a secondary OS (or even in a virtual machine instance).

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zman982

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This is why we don't have nice things. Guy installs Windows as his primary OS, and yells at Microsoft when it breaks his work:

https://twitter.com/sakiski_ki/status/582417677290844160

Man that was frustrating to read.  As many has stated, if you're not prepared for stuff to not work properly in the beta, then you shouldn't be running beta software especially on your main PC.

Grand Master

xendrome

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This is why we don't have nice things. Guy installs Windows as his primary OS, and yells at Microsoft when it breaks his work:

https://twitter.com/sakiski_ki/status/582417677290844160

 

That guy is tool of the year... wow..

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