[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

By Ian S.
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  1. 1. On a scale of 1-5, 1 being worst, 5 being best. What do you think of Windows 10 from the leaks so far?

    • 5.Great, best OS ever
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    • 4. Pretty Good, needs a lot of minor tweaks
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    • 3. OK, Needs a few major improvements, some minor ones
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    • 2. Fine, Needs a lot of major improvements
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    • 1.Poor, Needs too many improvements, all hope is lost, never going to use it
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  2. 2. Based on the recent leaks by Neowin and Winfuture.de, my next OS upgrade will be?

    • Windows 10
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    • Windows 7
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    • Sticking with XP
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    • OSX Yosemite
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    • Linux
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  3. 3. Should Microsoft give away Windows 10 for free?

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    • Yes for Vista and above users
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1 hour ago, Gotenks98 said:

Does anyone know what happens if you have installed multiple PCs with the same live account?

It wont matter, it is tied to the hardware ID. You can have the same Microsoft Account across devices and they will be unique. If your copy is retail, off-the-shelf, you can call MS and they will re-activate it if you move hardware. OEM copies cant be transferred.

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Quillz

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9 hours ago, Gary7 said:

What do you mean by standard? What version of 7 Do you have? Actually after today I do not know what happens to your old windows 7 Key as the offer expires today and You can image your Windows 10 and try it?

As long as you've had Windows activated at least once on your hardware, you're fine. My ThinkPad started with Win7, then got Win8, finally Win10 and some Insider builds. I eventually did a clean install of Win10, and it was activated. Being on the insider program means nothing.

 

The only way you wouldn't stay activated is if you completely change your computer's hardware, which has always been the case in the past. But a simple clean install is fine. (I do clean installs roughly once a year).

9 hours ago, LiGhTfast said:

Looks like my live account has the activation not my pc hardware? I think i'll reinstall and use the win7 key just in case

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Did you buy the license yourself, or was it OEM? I think that message appears if you bought a license yourself, implying it's not strictly tied to the hardware the way an OEM license is. But in practice, neither should matter too much. If it fails to activate in the future, call Microsoft, they usually don't have an issue making it activate.

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Quillz

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9 hours ago, Ryoken said:

If you want your free upgrade, I believe you need to install 7, then upgrade to 10, then join the insider program.

Insider program has nothing to do with the free upgrade. The only rule, as far as I know, is you need to have Win7 or Win8 on your computer and then upgrade to Win10. And that only comes into play the very first time. After that, you can freely do clean installs of Win10 (i.e. the method that will generate windows.old), and you're fine. Doing a completely clean install (where you delete the HDD partition that had an old version of Windows) may not activate, but there is little reason to ever do an install that way (especially when you can also do the reset and refresh options).

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Ryoken

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2 hours ago, Quillz said:

Insider program has nothing to do with the free upgrade. The only rule, as far as I know, is you need to have Win7 or Win8 on your computer and then upgrade to Win10. And that only comes into play the very first time. After that, you can freely do clean installs of Win10 (i.e. the method that will generate windows.old), and you're fine. Doing a completely clean install (where you delete the HDD partition that had an old version of Windows) may not activate, but there is little reason to ever do an install that way (especially when you can also do the reset and refresh options).

I mentioned the Insider Program, cause he was already on it, and sounded like he wanted to remain an Insider.

He simply wanted to insure he had a legit copy of 10 if it wasn't on the insider program. (He said originally he installed the insider builds with the original Insider key, so that doesn't, or at least shouldn't, let you remain on Activated if not on those builds).

 

As for clean installs, I've had to do those 3 times now, on different computers. One was a 8.1-->10 upgrade that wouldn't work right after the upgrade, OR Refresh. One was a 10 RTM -> Nov Update, where the update failed, and it didn't revert back to a working copy of RTM. Last was during the Insider builds for Redstone, I had one where an upgrade to a new fast build was flakey, again refresh didn't solve it, so a clean install was needed before it played nice.

 

I agree MOST people MOST of the time won't need to do it, unless replacing a HDD, but as long as the Motherboard and the like remains the same, it should (and has for me) always activated without issue if you did the upgrade first.

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Quillz

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1 minute ago, Ryoken said:

I agree MOST people MOST of the time won't need to do it, unless replacing a HDD, but as long as the Motherboard and the like remains the same, it should (and has for me) always activated without issue if you did the upgrade first.

Yes, this is how it ended up working for me. Got a clean install of 10 activated with no issues. But I was always using a Win8 key that I bought, using an insider key as mentioned might cause an issue.

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Ryoken

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2 minutes ago, Quillz said:

Yes, this is how it ended up working for me. Got a clean install of 10 activated with no issues. But I was always using a Win8 key that I bought, using an insider key as mentioned might cause an issue.

Also most people use OEM Computers (Dell, HP, etc), which often have Digital Entitlement and will activate regardless, no keys needed.

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adrynalyne

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13 hours ago, LiGhTfast said:

Whats the deal if you've ran windows 10 insider since first beta with the generic key they emailed out?

 

If I reinstall a standard windows 10 iso will it activate if I leave insider? Only asking because I have a windows 7 key here and dont want to lose the free upgrade if leaving insider removes my activation?

Actually they store their keys in the UEFI, which Windows reads from. 

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patseguin Global Moderator

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Anyone having a problem with Edge opening? Whenever I click it now, it just opens the window for a second then closes. Same thing if I click a url in an email or something.

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UnclePritchard

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41 minutes ago, patseguin said:

Anyone having a problem with Edge opening? Whenever I click it now, it just opens the window for a second then closes. Same thing if I click a url in an email or something.

nope it must be something effed up there

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Quillz

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So this is kind of random, but something that had been bothering me for a long time about Win10 (and Win8, actually) is that the removing the drop shadows on desktop icon labels simply wasn't working.

 

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But I finally figured out why. First, toggling the setting off requires you to logout, reboot, or restart Windows Explorer, unlike most of the other visual effects you can tweak. But that's fine, the issue I had in Win10 was after a seemingly arbitrary amount of time, the drop shadows would come back, even with the setting off. Well, here's the issue... window snapping. For some reason, as soon as you snap a window (such as putting two windows side-by-side), the drop shadows come back. The only fix I know of is to restart Windows Explorer (or again logout or reboot the computer), and the drop shadows will disappear again. I filed a bug report, there is something wrong with window snapping. (While you still had to logout/reboot in Win7, the drop shadows remained off, so the bug seems to be related to window snapping and the introduction of Metro).

 

Totally random, I know, but if anyone else has been annoyed by this (I hate drop shadows and prefer desktop icon labels without them), now you know what's happening.

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George P Global Moderator

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So I just upgraded as well, maybe it's just me but I can't install any edge extensions from the windows store?  It looks like I'm not logged into the store or something?  Anyone having this issue?

 

*Edit* Ok, maybe it was just lagging or maybe it fixed itself when I tried the Xbox app, but the store itself wouldn't login to my account or even show me the option o, so it wouldn't let me install stuff, that works now, so all is well, 14393.10 here, no other issues.

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George P Global Moderator

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2 minutes ago, UnclePritchard said:

I just noticed that from Settings>System>About tab clicking it crashes the settings app...

Settings app works fine for me, weird, but then again I just upgraded this desktop right from 10586.494 to 14393.10.

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