What you don't like about Android (in general)?

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neo1911

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My biggest hate of Android is the Android fanboys who make themselves look beyond stupid when telling others they are stupid for choosing anything other then Android. While they are just simple minded teenagers, they should be smarter then that to know that people have different criteria and tastes that vary from person to person.

wish list for android:

Equal quality video chat to facetime. ( i know its impossible and out of their control with different manufacturers)

Notifications like IOS.

Updates like IOS

Live Tiles like windows.

Speedy like IOS/Windows

That's about it for me.

 

The updates issue can be solved if you opt for Google based Nexus device.

Even I am waiting for a proper rival to Apple's FaceTime, AirPlay. This functionality must be thoroughly baked into next Android. The integration must be so deeper that if manufacturers like Samesung, Sony and HTC likes try to remove it and implement their own proprietary code, it would break the whole OS.

A better touch algorithm. Currently there is definitely some lag with input/output when you tap screen compared to iOS devices.

 

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neo1911

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Android new Os version lollipop is awesome. I think this version is really comfortable in use and have amazing features.

What amazing features that you talk about?

Android 5 is a year old. I am sure Android 6 Marshmallow will blow your socks off with it's app permission changes.

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Kelxin

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Google attempting to trick you into doing what they want.  I.E. sharing more information than what you want, etc.   As an example:  By default, I leave my GPS turned off on my phone, and turn it on when I need it to save battery (and because it seems every random app turns it on whenever it feels like it, even if I've told it not to).   Now this is where Google gets tricksy ... When you turn on the GPS it prompts you for "advanced location tracking which sends all GPS data to google" with an accept and decline button, and a don't ask me this again check mark.   The funny thing is if you check the "dont ask me again", the decline becomes GREYED OUT not allowing you to click on it.  Of course when you uncheck it and click decline, the next time you turn it off and on the dialog pops up again.  On the latest version of android for my phone, it has a new dialog that comes up before that dialog that you must accept to get GPS at all, so now, every time I want to use GPS I have to turn it on, accept the first page and decline the second page.   This is only one example out of about 30 things similar to this that they do to squeeze as much information or control out of your hands as they can.

I've also notice that IPv6 via wireless lan (not 4G / LTE, literally you own home or office network) is completely busted on it with no fix in sight, but it works perfect via 4G / LTE / 3G.

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HawkMan

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There's a lot of issues and nags with Android. there are two MAJOR ones however.

1. Storage and apps. you can't save apps by default to SD card. if you move and app to SD and it updates, it right back on the phone memory. some apps can't be moved to SD card or won't work properly if you do move them... ###### design. I miss storage sense that llowed me to set apps by default to save on SD...

2. SD card folder permissions since L. even google can't get it right. apps can't save or do changes to files on folders on SD cards without first being given access, to get access they need to request it. most apps don't know this or isn't programmed to. this includes googles own Google Photo's app. their new fancy awesome photo management and editing app. yeah, except it can't do any diting on photos stored on the SD card because it always gets a write error and "can't save changes". 

Google you dun effed up. 

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francescob

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1) Unremovable OEM customizations
2) Lack of updates on OEM devices
3) Insane pricing of the official Google devices
4) Applications that install all sort of useless RAM/CPU-wasting background services (and Google doing nothing to disencourage the practice)
5) Google apparently not giving a damn about the aforementioned issues

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xrobwx71

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The one thing I really hate about it is the inconsistency in updates across vendors and devices.

Agreed. It's one of the reasons I went with the Nexus 6, that and the bloat on the others. I wanted the Note 5 but could not deal with the uninstallable bloat. 

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bluesman86

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Agreed. It's one of the reasons I went with the Nexus 6, that and the bloat on the others. I wanted the Note 5 but could not deal with the uninstallable bloat. 

I have a Sony Z3 Compact and it's a lovely device, but the bloatware just pisses me off to no end. I don't use it, I never asked for it, and I can't delete it. Updates are also slow. It took 'em over 5 months to get to Lollipop. I have a Nexus 7 2013 tablet and it's a delight to use. Kinda sad that all these extra "features" just ruin everything.

I got my eyes on the Blackberry Priv. Keyboard phone with huge battery and vanilla Android with extra security features -- I'll take it.

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PGHammer

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Google attempting to trick you into doing what they want.  I.E. sharing more information than what you want, etc.   As an example:  By default, I leave my GPS turned off on my phone, and turn it on when I need it to save battery (and because it seems every random app turns it on whenever it feels like it, even if I've told it not to).   Now this is where Google gets tricksy ... When you turn on the GPS it prompts you for "advanced location tracking which sends all GPS data to google" with an accept and decline button, and a don't ask me this again check mark.   The funny thing is if you check the "dont ask me again", the decline becomes GREYED OUT not allowing you to click on it.  Of course when you uncheck it and click decline, the next time you turn it off and on the dialog pops up again.  On the latest version of android for my phone, it has a new dialog that comes up before that dialog that you must accept to get GPS at all, so now, every time I want to use GPS I have to turn it on, accept the first page and decline the second page.   This is only one example out of about 30 things similar to this that they do to squeeze as much information or control out of your hands as they can.

I've also notice that IPv6 via wireless lan (not 4G / LTE, literally you own home or office network) is completely busted on it with no fix in sight, but it works perfect via 4G / LTE / 3G.

GPS is not JUST used for location-based advertising - it's also used for location-based services (hotspot-locating, for example) - which is why Microsoft added it to Windows 8.The first time you leave home with an Android device - including a tablet, if not ESPECIALLY a tablet - you should turn on GPS.  (More and more government offices that serve the public also have in-office hotspots to serve the public - in the case of Prince George's County, they are provided by my broadband provider per their agreement with the county, and I can leverage them at-need as these same hotspots are part of their Hotspot Network (shared with Cox and TWC)

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Kelxin

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GPS is not JUST used for location-based advertising - it's also used for location-based services (hotspot-locating, for example) - which is why Microsoft added it to Windows 8.The first time you leave home with an Android device - including a tablet, if not ESPECIALLY a tablet - you should turn on GPS.  (More and more government offices that serve the public also have in-office hotspots to serve the public - in the case of Prince George's County, they are provided by my broadband provider per their agreement with the county, and I can leverage them at-need as these same hotspots are part of their Hotspot Network (shared with Cox and TWC)

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What does that have to do with what I said at all?

 

I have GPS off to save battery.  When I turn the GPS on google asks me to share info with them.  What you said had NOTHING to do with that.

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HawkMan

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What does that have to do with what I said at all?

 

I have GPS off to save battery.  When I turn the GPS on google asks me to share info with them.  What you said had NOTHING to do with that.

Can you provide a screenshot of this ? I have never seen android do this. 

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Draconian Guppy

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There's a lot of issues and nags with Android. there are two MAJOR ones however.

1. Storage and apps. you can't save apps by default to SD card. if you move and app to SD and it updates, it right back on the phone memory. some apps can't be moved to SD card or won't work properly if you do move them... ###### design. I miss storage sense that llowed me to set apps by default to save on SD...

 

Though is this more app-dev related than google per se?

Grand Master

Draconian Guppy

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Also on the update bit.

I've owned, LG, Samsung and HTC.    Going from JB, to KK, to L, there was no visual difference nor performance increase in any case. This on a galaxy S3, S4, LG 3 and HTC M7.

Point being, with the heavy modifying by OEMs(skin wise and system wise), updates in android (except security wise and even in those case, manufacturers  sometimes do update) are pretty pointless :/ 

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HawkMan

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Though is this more app-dev related than google per se?

Not really. it's a fundamental fault in how google developed the storage solution in the OS. 

There are a laundry list of functions and stuff that won't work from SD card on android. 

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Kelxin

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Can you provide a screenshot of this ? I have never seen android do this. 

Give me a day or two Hawkman and I'll make a screenshot.  I accidentally hit accept (as I'm guessing google was hoping for with this little scam of a system) and I need to figure out how to "un-accept" ....

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