What you don't like about Android (in general)?

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Ian W

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That document is pretty inaccurate and even lists an issue with some apps that has nothing to do with Android itself. Which mobile OS is perfect again?

Inaccuracies do not surprise as the document is authored by the same person who wrote that "Why Windows 10 sucks" article.

It is not on the list, but in terms of the UI, I think the thing that I like the least about Android is that it uses icons that are mostly static; I much prefer Microsoft's live tiles. But perhaps that is not fair because, as tsupersonic already stated, there is no equal when it comes to customization in Android.

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Rippleman

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5) ... I think you need a better phone.. .my LG G3 32GB is snappy as hell. That being said, I do think iOS runs better on 1GB of ram.

 

 

currently use note 3 as main device with side use of htc m8. Both awesome phones, but should be with the specs. If they hadn't the specs to carry them, well....  Android is just so extremely inefficient imo.

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Anibal P

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currently use note 3 as main device with side use of htc m8. Both awesome phones, but should be with the specs. If they hadn't the specs to carry them, well....  Android is just so extremely inefficient imo.

They're both old with horrid manufacturer skins and they still run good, pretty much negating your inefficient comment at the end 

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Ironman273

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In waiting for a new Microsoft flagship I switched to Android recently and found these couple things annoying (off the top of my head):

1) Contacts!  I have contacts spread across 3 services (Outlook, Gmail, and Exchange).  In Windows Phone it just puts everyone in there with no problems and matches up pictures from LlinkedIn or Facebook (if I don't have a picture in the contact card).  In Android I have multiple contacts for the same person (same exact name) that I have to manually link.

2) Work email.  I haven't found a program that can work my mail and calendar as well as the one from Windows Phone.  The mail app has trouble looking up contacts from work and working with appointments in the calendar.  Outlook for Android is better but still not the same.  Emails sometimes appear with a really small font when there are images (like in signatures) included in the message.

Edit: I just realized the topic title was "in general" and I'm being specific, but if anyone has solutions for me I'm all ears!

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As an Android user, exclusively, over 5 years...

1. The fans. Absolutely the worst part. I've been guilty of this myself, but I give credit where credit is due. The iPhone 6s Plus is one of the best phones to come out this year. People get so worked up. They're just phones! Also, Android and iPhone originally had different goals. An iPhone was always just an iPod with a phone in it. The iPod has always been ambitious, with a Solitaire game and some PDA functions. But the iPod and iPhone have always put media first. Android on the other hand is more like the kitchen sink. Let's throw everything at it. Meanwhile Apple is leaning back and seeing what sticks. Apple is wiser but Android is more ambitious. I'm not so much an Android fan as I am a gadget hound. I use what suits me best. If I had to choose right now, I would be leaning toward that 6s Plus pretty hard, but the price makes it not the best phone of the year.

2. Updates, obviously. And you can't say Nexus because Nexus has been "everywhere but the US" for so long. Nobody's going to move for a damn phone. Don't be absurd. Maybe somebody couldn't get a Nexus. That's no longer the case but this is a recent development. Verizon and US Cellular getting Nexus phones means people due for an upgrade no longer have that excuse. When I bought my phone in June 2014, HTC One M8 was the best choice for me, followed by the LG G3. I chose the former. It got 5.0.1, and it was promised 6.0, but it was also promised 5.1 and they changed their minds, so anybody who's been paying attention isn't expecting anything from HTC. Except maybe more notification ads.

3. The lag. Nobody talks about this. Whenever somebody does, "Oh you're doing it wrong." Then it happens to them and they just roll over and accept that These Things Happen. When iPhone fans call Android "lagdroid," they're not wrong. My phone has a quad-core CPU and 2GB of RAM. It's no slouch. But now all the good phones have 3GB of RAM, and I bet they lag too. It's not a lack of power on my phone's part, it's poor optimization on Android's part. Or HTC's for Sense, since that's what I'm running.

4. The blogs. They're all so afraid to criticize OEMs for their faults for fear that they won't get free phones shipped to them to review. So they kiss the right amount of — and it doesn't help anyone, but they help themselves to some cool swag. Like in 2011 when Motorola didn't update any of their phones that year, or the next year. To top it off, this was right after Google bought them. A few sites said something but mostly? Crickets. Business as usual. Because offending Motorola was simply not an option. Like America's banks and auto makers, they were too big to fall, so —es were kissed and before long, people were saying Motorola was better than other OEMs, who actually did update, at updating their phones. (But now that they did update the 2014 Moto X and 2015 Moto E, they're criticized for abandoning those phones. I'm confused.)

5. The custom ROM developers. Some of these people are really awesome, but the rest? I won't name names, but there's a ROM development team that has two or three ROMs out. The difference? "LOL, flash and find out." LOL, no. If you can't tell me what's in this zip file you're offering, I'm not flashing it. And they can't. It's just "slightly different" and "made by different team members." Look, I'm not a developer, but if I were, I'd be able to tell you the build number, and then list each and every thing I took out and each and every thing I added. If I couldn't do that, I wouldn't trust me either.

And yet I still use Android. I don't hate it, and I think I would prefer it to iOS still.

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macoman

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The most annoying thing of using an Android device is definitely software update. If you are not using a high end expensive Android device... Your device will not be able to receive OS updates. Only the most expensive devices are allow to receive Android upgrades.

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PGHammer

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My anger with Android is that they didn't follow through on ending device-specific fracturing in even a general sense, let alone an OEM/ODM-specific sense  Look at OpenGL ES 2.x - a new standard feature as of Lollipop (and optional with JellyBean and later) - it got (and has remained) as fractured as discrete DirectX (and OpenGL) did in Windows and Linux distributions.  The ONLY reason that x86 is not as fractured as ARM is has to do with the number of SoC players (and that is just Lollipop and Marshmallow) - on x86, you have just three (Intel, nVidia, and AMD) how many DIFFERENT GPU subsections are there on MediaTek alone, let alone Qualcomm and the other ARM players?  Updates are a problem for multiple reasons - it's not JUST carriers - after call carriers don't exist in terms of purely-wireless tablets.  In terms of tablets, that puts the onus squarely on the OEMs/ODMs (and somewhat on their retailers, as well - name ONE retailer (other than MicroCenter) that carries a Nexus (or equivalent - yes, equivalents to Nexus but aren't - purely AOSP - tablets DO exist) in the retail space.)  My hunt for retail Nexus-style retail tablets began entirely DUE to Nexus devices being almost entirely e-tail - the problem is while Azpen Innovations came close, they have their flatware-based (fork) issues like most tablet OEMs.  The closest I've found is Visual Land - who has basically been whacked for not forking; space taken away FROM Visual Land has, instead, gone to more proprietary tablet OEMs (such as Lenovo and Samsung).  It's NOT that AOSP - or even Nexus - tablets can't sell - MicroCenter has issues keeping the current Nexus 7 2013 in stock.  They also used to carry Visual Land Prestige Elite 7 tablets - in fact, so did WalMart and Target  Now?  E-tail only.  Retail space has become either fork or don't bother trying to sell.  It's not that VL is expensive in terms of tablets - they are in the Lenovo/Azpen end of the tablet price curve in the 7" space; at the 10" size, they are HALF the price of the Galaxy Tab A (literally - $99.99 vs. $199.99 best-case - and that is on Amazon.com; they have a higher-end 10" tablet at the same price as the Tab A (Prestige Prime 10 ES) - however, it also has twice the storage space (32GB vs. 16GB), so basically no BOHICA for more space - and you even get to keep expandability).

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Flawedspirit

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My number one complaints are junk-ridden distributions and device support.

I'm perfectly happy with the bog-standard Google Android experience, and don't need a million widgets, or duplicate apps crowding out already limited device space, Samsung! I'm also not a fan of having to wait months for my device to get any sort of update at all, even basic ones because my carrier can't or won't play ball. I love my iPhone 6, but I'd still very much be an Android man if these issues weren't issues.

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PGHammer

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In waiting for a new Microsoft flagship I switched to Android recently and found these couple things annoying (off the top of my head):

1) Contacts!  I have contacts spread across 3 services (Outlook, Gmail, and Exchange).  In Windows Phone it just puts everyone in there with no problems and matches up pictures from LlinkedIn or Facebook (if I don't have a picture in the contact card).  In Android I have multiple contacts for the same person (same exact name) that I have to manually link.

2) Work email.  I haven't found a program that can work my mail and calendar as well as the one from Windows Phone.  The mail app has trouble looking up contacts from work and working with appointments in the calendar.  Outlook for Android is better but still not the same.  Emails sometimes appear with a really small font when there are images (like in signatures) included in the message.

Edit: I just realized the topic title was "in general" and I'm being specific, but if anyone has solutions for me I'm all ears!

The Contacts problem is service-specific; what is needed is a Contacts app that supports both Google and Microsoft services.

If your work e-mail is based on Exchange or EAS (quite likely, since you pointed out that it has no problems with Windows Phone) then use Outlook for Android (which is what I use - it supports EAS, Exchange, POP3, and IMAP4); while technically, it can also support GMail (like the desktop counterpart and Windows Mail), I don't use it for that on Android simply to avoid inbox clutter.

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LUTZIFER

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I can't think of anything I don't like about Android. Its incredible.

The only thing I don't like, is that manufacturers are allowed to alter it.

I think that Google should do something about that.

I mean, sure the manufacturer can install their own launcher and apps, but there should be the choice of what to use,

and Androids default apps, etc. etc. should still be in tact. 

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Draconian Guppy

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Trust me, you're not missing anything, it's mostly a rant IMO

ahhhh here I was innocently clicking and expecting an in depth technical analysis  sorta like how underpowered most phone AMPs and how snapdragon is not really a hifi DAC, but is publicized as one.

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The Evil Overlord

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ahhhh here I was innocently clicking and expecting an in depth technical analysis  sorta like how underpowered most phone AMPs and how snapdragon is not really a hifi DAC, but is publicized as one.

Here you go, not much in regards to hardware (understandable, seeing as hardware is extremely varied)

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Anibal P

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ahhhh here I was innocently clicking and expecting an in depth technical analysis  sorta like how underpowered most phone AMPs and how snapdragon is not really a hifi DAC, but is publicized as one.

You expect WAY too much form internet trolls 

It's a badly worded rant on generally nitpicky crap about Android

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Draconian Guppy

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Here you go, not much in regards to hardware (understandable, seeing as hardware is extremely varied)

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you were right, mostly rants and the majority also applies to iOS, like market lock in. heck that's even a dumb point, you know that when you are buying a specific vendor you will probably be locked to it, both android and iOS do so, while android has a bit of freedom (meizu, amazon, samsung lg specific "app stores" they SUCK)

 

You expect WAY too much form internet trolls 

It's a badly worded rant on generally nitpicky crap about Android

indeed!

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tompkin

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The apps that you can't uninstall 

When I got my LG G3, there were 3 apps on the home screen that I didn't want. Two of the apps I was able to uninstall but the 3rd one I was unable to uninstall. It was an NFL Football app. :(   (Verizon)

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Gerowen

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Android has become what Windows is when it comes pre-installed on a computer.  Every hardware manufacturer makes their own little tweaks and changes, pre-loads it with their own assortment of bloatware/adware, and some of them even remove the Google Play Store from it in lieu of their own locked down, segregated app store so that any purchases you make there doesn't transfer to any future Android devices you may buy from other vendors.

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Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Windows 10

Why Android Sucks even though it does not

Why iPhones and iPads Suck Big Time, or How Unusable iOS is

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this guy sure loved to hate :D

i cannot find much to dislike about android 6 other then things related to my phone hardware and choice of programs.  since i can customize and/or get a different phone, both are not androids faults.

i do only use top of the line phones, so people using low end hardware might be in for a different experience,.

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PGHammer

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I can't think of anything I don't like about Android. Its incredible.

The only thing I don't like, is that manufacturers are allowed to alter it.

I think that Google should do something about that.

I mean, sure the manufacturer can install their own launcher and apps, but there should be the choice of what to use,

and Androids default apps, etc. etc. should still be in tact. 

You CAN have choice without forking (or even with minimal forking) - for example, I'm using Samsung's S Launcher with my Lenovo tablet.

My launcher issue is that all too many are designed specifically for phones (both Nova Launcher and Microsoft Garage's Arrow commit this *sin*); I can use them on any emulator that supports US English (however, with few exceptions), I cant use them on my tablet (which is why S Launcher is still in place).  That issue occurs with apps as well - which is why most emulators target phones.

Emulators - more of them are available (a good thing) - however, so far, other than Genymotion, the Xamarin App Player, and AMIDuOS, none (as in zero) emulate either Lollipop or Marshmallow - worse, all too many are STILL based on JellyBean or earlier; as apps themselves are improved, the low-hanging target is now KitKat - not JellyBean (the latest update to TD: Reborn now requires KitKat - which kick all my emulators except the three I named and BlueStacks out of the rota).

In terms of JB-based emulators, one of the new ones is - apparently - based rather heavily on the Android SDK's included emulator in terms of a skin.  It's called Nox (or Night), and it's fast as blazes; if you don't need KitKat support, it can even run on a notebook (something a lot of even JB-based emulators can't do).  It has the Nova Launcher as the default - but can also use Arrow (I'm using Arrow for now).  It does NOT require Oracle VirtualBox.

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