formula 1 Formula 1 World Championship 2016 Season Discussion

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[MightyJordan]

1 hour ago, Frank B. said:

 

I'm surprised he's sticking around, especially considering the stupid PR stuff they get him to do...

 

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Nico Rosberg may face a penalty for driving too slowly during Q1.

 

The Mercedes driver is under investigation for breaking article 27.5 of the sporting regulations which specifies a maximum time for driving between the pit lane exit and entrance.

 

Rosberg set two flying laps during Q2 but did a much slower 2’26.444 in between them. This was almost half a minute slower than team mate Lewis Hamilton drove when he backed off.

 

Safety Car line two is at the pit lane exit and line one is at the pit lane entrance. The maximum permitted time for the drivers to pass between them is one minute and 45 seconds.

 

The rule, which was introduced in 2010, is intended to prevent drivers lapping too slowly during qualifying to save fuel, creating a potential safety risk.

 

Article 27.5 of the sporting regulations states:

“At no time may a car be driven unnecessarily slowly, erratically or in a manner which could be deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers or any other person. This will apply whether any such car is being driven on the track, the pit entry or the pit lane.”

 

“In order to ensure that cars are not driven unnecessarily slowly on in laps during and after the end of qualifying or during reconnaissance laps when the pit exit is opened for the race, drivers must stay below the maximum time set by the FIA between the Safety Car line after the pit exit and Safety Car line before the pit entry.”

 

“The maximum time will be determined by the race director at each event after the first day of practice but may be amended later in the Event if deemed necessary. The time will normally be based upon 145% of the best dry [first practice or second practice] time.”

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/07/09/rosbergs-second-place-threat-investigation/

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Nico Rosberg has been cleared of breaking the rules during qualifying.

 

The Mercedes driver was investigated for exceeding the maximum time limit during Q1 measured between the Safety Car lines at the pit lane exit and entrance.

 

However the stewards decided to take no action after ruling Rosberg “was not on an in-lap when the time between the Safety Car lines was set”.

 

Rosberg therefore keeps his place alongside Lewis Hamilton on the front row of the grid for Sunday’s British Grand Prix.

 

“The team has given us an incredible car,” he said after qualifying. “It really was a pleasure to drive out there today – especially through these spectacular high-speed corners where it’s just awesome. It’s like the car is on rails, which is just what you want as a driver, so a big thank you to everyone for that.”

 

“It wasn’t my day out there today – but congratulations to Lewis, who did an awesome job. Tomorrow is the day and it’s all to play for and it will be a great battle between Lewis and me.”

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/07/09/rosberg-avoids-penalty-slow-driving-q1/

[MightyJordan]

Reject of the race almost certainly goes to the Renault pit crew for releasing Palmer on just three tyres. 

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[what]

I think Mercedes would happily take that. Not saying anything could have resulted in a DNF for Rosberg. All they've lost is three points.

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6 minutes ago, what said:

I think Mercedes would happily take that. Not saying anything could have resulted in a DNF for Rosberg. All they've lost is three points.

Hamilton will be very happy with that; he's now leading the championship by a point.  Mercedes have lodged an appeal, so it isn't over yet. Also...

 

[Biohead]

I was lucky enough to get tickets in Club Corner - what a show to the crowd by Hamilton!

 

Unfortunately, not able to get all the radio traffic when you're there in person so I'm not quite sure what got said to Rosberg. Do feel like he's been a bit hard done by though if he was on the verge of retirement!

[Sparky Marky]

1 hour ago, Biohead said:

Unfortunately, not able to get all the radio traffic when you're there in person so I'm not quite sure what got said to Rosberg. Do feel like he's been a bit hard done by though if he was on the verge of retirement!

Rosberg was told how to fix the problem, but then told not to use 7th gear. It was for the second part that he received the penalty, 55 seconds onwards on http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p041111q 

[Noir Angel]

Big fan of Team LH, not of this rule. It's almost as if the FIA want cars dropping out of races and not being able to overtake. It robbed us of a chance to see Lewis do some overtaking at Baku, and now a driver has been penalised because the team didn't want his car to drop out of the race. Time to drop the radio rules IMO.

[philcruicks]

14 hours ago, Biohead said:

I was lucky enough to get tickets in Club Corner - what a show to the crowd by Hamilton!

 

Unfortunately, not able to get all the radio traffic when you're there in person so I'm not quite sure what got said to Rosberg. Do feel like he's been a bit hard done by though if he was on the verge of retirement!

More info on exactly what was said and reason for the penalty.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/36760027

The settings change was fine, it was the shift through 7th they got the penalty for.

[Chasethebase Veteran]

Well now that we know that a radio breach costs a 10 second penalty, Mercedes, more than anyone, may use that to their advantage, knowing say, Lewis has a 20 second lead yet has issues, they get him to fix them, take the penalty yet he still wins.

 

Interesting times.

[i11usive]

36 minutes ago, Steve B. said:

Well now that we know that a radio breach costs a 10 second penalty, Mercedes, more than anyone, may use that to their advantage, knowing say, Lewis has a 20 second lead yet has issues, they get him to fix them, take the penalty yet he still wins.

 

Interesting times.

Yeah I thought the penalty was too lenient to be honest. Also think it should hurt the team more than the driver seeing as Nico didn't ask to be told the info that ultimately cost him the penalty.

[philcruicks]

39 minutes ago, i11usive said:

Yeah I thought the penalty was too lenient to be honest. Also think it should hurt the team more than the driver seeing as Nico didn't ask to be told the info that ultimately cost him the penalty.

Well he asked the question do i shift through it, I know in the heat of the moment its hard, but he should know its not something he can ask/can't get a response.

 

While I agree some might now use this to advantage knowing it's 10secs, I suspect the stewards will crack down harder on serial offenders if they start to use it that way.

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3 hours ago, philcruicks said:

Well he asked the question do i shift through it, I know in the heat of the moment its hard, but he should know its not something he can ask/can't get a response.

 

While I agree some might now use this to advantage knowing it's 10secs, I suspect the stewards will crack down harder on serial offenders if they start to use it that way.

I can see all teams getting harsher penalties, rather than everyone knowing at worst they'll get 10 seconds. 

 

Maybe it's something like amount of information conveyed, or if it allows the driver to have any unfair advantage etc.