FunkyMike Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 A newly published paper suggests that it is possible that Aliens are actually responsible why we have not found any other lifeforms in the universe. It may be possible that these advanced alien civilizations have formed numerous ‘unions’ and not a pan-galactic government indicates a new study. Quote According to the Fermi Paradox, Earth should have already been visited by extraterrestrial aliens. In an informal conversation, Fermi noted no convincing evidence of this, leading him to ask, “Where is everybody? If we are truly not alone in the ‘infinite’ cosmos, how come we have not encountered aliens? One possible answer is the so-called zoo-hypothesis which argues that extraterrestrial civilizations are intentionally preventing us from contacting them. However, researchers, argue that in order for this ‘isolation’ to function properly, a galactic community would have to agree and enforce the blockade. A new study published by the Library of Cornell University, British astrophysicist Duncan Forgan argues that if indeed there are multiple civilizations in the Milky Way then it is very likely that these civilizations would have formed several alliances rather than a single galactic ‘club.’ Forgan’s model is based on numerous factors like how long each civilization needed to advance enough to participate in interstellar communication, distances between worlds and longevity of civilizations. “We find that for there to be only a single group (a ‘Galactic Club’), the mean civilization lifetime must be extremely long, and the arrival time between civilizations must in fact be relatively short. This is perhaps an unlikely scenario, as it would require a significant number of civilizations to emerge across the galaxy in a very short time frame,” the paper said. In addition to the above, the newly published study discovered that a single long-lasting alien civilization which flourished in the early history of our galaxy would still not have the means to bring together different alien civilizations –if they do exist— into a single galactic club. However, if all civilizations came into existence relatively uniformly, and managed to survive and evolve longer than millions of years, then it’s likely that such a club may exist in the universe. The study argues that a more likely scenario is that there are several conflicting cliques of alien civilization that have failed to agree on a universal policy. “One clique attempting to place an interdict on contacting ‘primitive’ civilizations is likely to encounter significant problems if another clique disagrees,” Forgan said. “It may well still be the case that the Earth resides in a region of space occupied by a conservative clique bent on non-contact,” the paper added. “However, as our ability to detect unintentional signals from both living and dead civilizations increases, we should presumably be able to break the deadlock imposed in this scenario.” If you want to check out the newly published study, please visit the pre-print website arXiv.org. http://www.ancient-code.com/new-study-reveals-alien-cliques-may-be-keeping-earth-isolated/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Everything we understand regarding physics shows that objects (i.e space ships) can not go faster than the speed of light. So even if some advanced civilization has obtained the ability to travel at light speed, more than likely they are spattered about the galaxy hundreds, thousands of light years apart. A civilization 47 light years away would, at minimum take 47 years to travel just here. A civilization 5000 light years? Same thing. While I have no doubt we aren't the only ones around, it would be difficult for aliens to visit us (at least on a regular basis) due to the sheer amount of time it would take to get here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyMike Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 1 minute ago, shockz said: Everything we understand regarding physics shows that objects (i.e space ships) can not go faster than the speed of light. So even if some advanced civilization has obtained the ability to travel at light speed, more than likely they are spattered about the galaxy hundreds, thousands of light years apart. While I have no doubt we aren't the only ones around, it would be difficult for aliens to visit us due to the sheer amount of time it would take to get here. Lets hope that they are using wormholes or somesuch. What always bugged me about ufos is that a lot seem to be disk shaped if we chpose to believe. It would be a good design to move into any direction at an instant but I would still prefer it if humanity made ships like the Sulaco .... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted September 9, 2016 Subscriber¹ Share Posted September 9, 2016 On 9/6/2016 at 2:56 AM, FunkyMike said: the Sulaco .... just because. Awe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevTech Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 On 9/5/2016 at 7:49 PM, shockz said: Everything we understand regarding physics shows that objects (i.e space ships) can not go faster than the speed of light. So even if some advanced civilization has obtained the ability to travel at light speed, more than likely they are spattered about the galaxy hundreds, thousands of light years apart. A civilization 47 light years away would, at minimum take 47 years to travel just here. A civilization 5000 light years? Same thing. While I have no doubt we aren't the only ones around, it would be difficult for aliens to visit us (at least on a regular basis) due to the sheer amount of time it would take to get here. If you meet a friend for coffee,there are a few things you could talk about with a very low bandwidth of information sharing before heading back to your daily schedule. Then, when you get to work or home and sit down in front of a large screen connected to the internet you have access to a fire hose of vast information. Just because most people ignore the opportunity and look at few cat pictures instead, the incredible nature of this information exposure is taken for granted without seeming very useful. Now picture advanced civilizations encoding vast information with advanced compression algorithms so dense the communication seems to be pure noise. These signal streams could be pervasive in many parts of the Galaxy containing a bounty of information that would instantly advance human civilization thousands of years. Information streams from multiple civilizations could be far more valuable than a physical visit. Or, if they are a bit too much like us, the Galaxy could just be full of interstellar emails containing pictures of Alien Cats... DConnell and FunkyMike 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) We have found Aliens. The advanced ETs are preventing us from traveling beyond this solar system, until we grow up. Quote Everything we understand regarding physics shows that objects (i.e space ships) can not go faster than the speed of light. Non-sense. Light is only part on a much greater electromagnetic spectrum. Scalar technology goes much faster than light. Space can be warped. Aliens usually keep hidden because our Military tends to shoot them down. Edited September 9, 2016 by Hum DConnell 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Hum said: We have found Aliens. The advanced ETs are preventing us from traveling beyond this solar system, until we grow up. Non-sense. Light is only part on a much greater electromagnetic spectrum. Scalar technology goes much faster than light. Space can be warped. Aliens usually keep hidden because our Military tends to shoot them down. Nonsense? Read a Science book, nothing can go faster than light. It's an impossibility unless you've found a way to break laws of relativity. For awhile we though neutrinos might of broken that rule, but it turned out to be a equipment malfunction measuring information incorrectly. The only way to traverse something that is a light year away in less than a year would require some sort of shortcut, i.e a portal that bends space like a wormhole (and recently maybe even a black hole), but as of yet wormholes are yet only a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, shockz said: Nonsense? Read a Science book, nothing can go faster than light. It's an impossibility unless you've found a way to break laws of relativity. For awhile we though neutrinos might of broken that rule, but it turned out to be a equipment malfunction measuring information incorrectly. The only way to traverse something that is a light year away in less than a year would require some sort of shortcut, i.e a portal that bends space like a wormhole (and recently maybe even a black hole), but as of yet wormholes are yet only a theory. Ask the aliens about that. Present day Science is far from the ultimate. Far more advanced technologies are being suppressed. 'Anti-gravity', for example has been known to some humans since 1954. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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