Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Well here is another failure by Apple. Now when Google releases their self driving cars to the public no one can say they copied off of Apple. The Apple Car Not Gonna Happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted October 22, 2016 Veteran Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Don't tell me it wont happen.... it already did happen Oh and Google wont be releasing cars, they already said they are only in it to make the back end systems for other car mfgs... the cars google has now are just "testers" for their tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son_Of_Dad Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Is anyone surprised by this. Apple aren't the business of creating original tech, their was never any way they could accomplish anything as massive as this. Sensi 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Don't care if it's Apple or Google, this is great news!! The humans behind the wheel of some cars are bad enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 13 hours ago, Son_Of_Dad said: Is anyone surprised by this. Apple aren't the business of creating original tech, their was never any way they could accomplish anything as massive as this. Because they aren't innovators like some people believe that they are. If they were they would make their own screens for their tablets. Come out with features first on their phones before other manufacturers do and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 13 hours ago, cork1958 said: The humans behind the wheel of some cars are bad enough! Which is the reason we need Self-Driving cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, neufuse said: Oh and Google wont be releasing cars, they already said they are only in it to make the back end systems for other car mfgs... the cars google has now are just "testers" for their tech Google wants to be releasing Self-Driving cars in 2020. Also, they said they have been testing them in some markets, and I swear I've seen at least 2 Google cars while I'm driving around my city. I know they have a test center by me and the car said Google and some other stuff (I was stop at a light turning left, while the other car had a green and was going straight). It had a weird antenna thing on the top of the roof. Google Self-Driving Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Except it's not a "failure", nothing was ever officially announced by Apple. Sounds like this thread is another case of a "fan" spewing nonsense. Google is not releasing it's own brand of self driving car. They however are testing self driving tech with their own cars. They're building the driver, not the car. Public will never have access to their in house test vehicles. This has been reported on numerous times. Dick Montage 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son_Of_Dad Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 20 minutes ago, shockz said: Except it's not a "failure", nothing was ever officially announced by Apple. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/18/apple-meets-california-officials-self-driving-car https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/14/apple-self-driving-car-project-titan-sooner-than-expected I guess they were just hiring people who left Tesla for furniture assembly at the space donut! Scutley and Anibal P 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, shockz said: . Google is not releasing it's own brand of self driving car. They however are testing self driving tech with their own cars. They're building the driver, not the car. Public will never have access to their in house test vehicles. This has been reported on numerous times. But it is still Google hardware. A lso, where has it been reported? Please give me some sort of report or article stating this fact. According to this they have a Self-Driving Car and it has hit the 2 mile mark. "The Google car can detect whether a moving object is a child or a bicycle and anticipates that both can make fast, unpredictable movements. The car's driving system calculates the probability of such movements and uses the results to determining how the vehicle will react." https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1251WE&ved=0ahUKEwiqsZe-7e7PAhVKRCYKHa5MAbMQFgiIATAQ&usg=AFQjCNEdcWI_GYcdzbj6bDiZCGXaSQnPJA&sig2=59lJqV5MRXTI_CgSvFfDOw Edited October 22, 2016 by Scutley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Son_Of_Dad said: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/18/apple-meets-california-officials-self-driving-car https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/14/apple-self-driving-car-project-titan-sooner-than-expected I guess they were just hiring people who left Tesla for furniture assembly at the space donut! I can think of all sorts of automation and technological aspects of cars that would require some of those types. CarPlay as well, my new car has an update available where it's embedded deeper into the car, and can now display things on the dash as opposed to just the radio. Automation is going to be a really big thing, whether or not that's self driving or Apple telling your car to fire up the heat and lights before getting home. While I have no doubt Apple was probably working on a car..., it's not a failure if it wasn't ever announced. If a company like google decides investigate making a competitor to Amazon.com, but decides to can the project, does that make it a failure as well? Of course not. For all we know it could of been a segway 2.0. A more likely product for them to take on. Robotics is another one... see Honda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted October 22, 2016 Subscriber² Share Posted October 22, 2016 And so got the dreams of buying a new car every year. TrickyDickie 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, shockz said: I can think of all sorts of automation and technological aspects of cars that would require some of those types. CarPlay as well, my new car has an update available where it's embedded deeper into the car, and can now display things on the dash as opposed to just the radio. Automation is going to be a really big thing, whether or not that's self driving or Apple telling your car to fire up the heat and lights before getting home. While I have no doubt Apple was probably working on a car..., it's not a failure if it wasn't ever announced. If a company like google decides investigate making a competitor to Amazon.com, but decides to can the project, does that make it a failure as well? Of course not. For all we know it could of been a segway 2.0. A more likely product for them to take on. Robotics is another one... see Honda. Can't you buy stuff and ECHO not Apple be able to do this? Also, Google can already do this as well. Also, they will probably be able to turn on and off cars and do more things like your saying before Apple with their home automation. Oh and yeah when the Google car or the hardware for the Google Car comes out. Don't you think Google will implement it with their home automation system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Scutley said: Can't you buy stuff and ECHO not Apple be able to do this? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 22 minutes ago, Zagadka said: And so got the dreams of buying a new car every year. People already do it's called leasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, shockz said: What? You can buy certain products from certain manufacturers and ECHO can tell you much gas you have, how many miles you can go without running out if had. It can tell you your tire pressure as Nd if something is wrong with your car. That is if the product/manufacturer supports ECHO. All by your voice without the car even being turned on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Scutley said: You can buy certain products from certain manufacturers and ECHO can tell you much gas you have, how many miles you can go without running out if had. It can tell you your tire pressure as Nd if something is wrong with your car. That is if the product/manufacturer supports ECHO. All by your voice without the car even being turned on. That's nice... I'm not sure how it pertains to any discussion we're having about Apple though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, shockz said: That's nice... I'm not sure how it pertains to any discussion we're having about Apple though. You were talking about automation and what Apple "carplay" does. I'm trying to point out there has been stuff out there way before Apple Carplay that's cheaper and better. My car doesn't have Apple Carplay, or Android Auto, and it display's pictures on the dashboard, and display other things as well on the dashboard. I have had that for years and years on my car. It came with my car. I can use the internet on my dashboard if I want. Which I have no desire to because I'm driving. It can also look up the weather on my dashboard, give me notifications of when there are weather alerts, or if there is a problem with my car and I don't even need a phone, or Apple Carplay or Android Auto. To connect this with automation if I wanted to I probably can connect it to my Amazon Echo as well. Anibal P 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Scutley said: You were talking about automation and what Apple "carplay" does. I'm trying to point out there has been stuff out there way before Apple Carplay that's cheaper and better. My car doesn't have Apple Carplay, or Android Auto, and it display's pictures on the dashboard, and display other things as well on the dashboard. I have had that for years and years on my car. It came with my car. I can use the internet on my dashboard if I want. Which I have no desire to because I'm driving. It can also look up the weather on my dashboard, give me notifications of when there are weather alerts, or if there is a problem with my car and I don't even need a phone, or Apple Carplay or Android Auto. To connect this with automation if I wanted to I probably can connect it to my Amazon Echo as well. Have you ever actually used android auto or Apple CarPlay? It doesn't sound like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 49 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: Have you ever actually used android auto or Apple CarPlay? It doesn't sound like it. Tell me about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scutley said: Tell me about it? They are applications on the infotainment system that extend the infotainment's system and give you remote control to some of your multimedia applications. It is running from the phone. In addition, they get regular updates which your infotainment system does not. In addition, more apps can be introduced without needing to jump through silly hoops like sd cards, thumb drives, or firmware updates. They are also way faster than the standard infotainment software. All I can say is you have to try them to understand. Both can co-exist on the same infotainment sytem. When my wife drives, she uses android auto. When I drive, I use car play. Its not about browsing the Internet or viewing photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scutley Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 47 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: They are applications on the infotainment system that extend the infotainment's system and give you remote control to some of your multimedia applications. It is running from the phone. In addition, they get regular updates which your infotainment system does not. In addition, more apps can be introduced without needing to jump through silly hoops like sd cards, thumb drives, or firmware updates. They are also way faster than the standard infotainment software. All I can say is you have to try them to understand. Both can co-exist on the same infotainment sytem. When my wife drives, she uses android auto. When I drive, I use car play. Its not about browsing the Internet or viewing photos. I was being sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Scutley said: I was being sarcastic You were about as successful with your sarcasm as your fail posting this thread when there had already been threads on it. Companies are measured by successful products they release, not projects they cancel. Google knows this quite well. Apple is not going to be a stranger to t either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted October 23, 2016 Veteran Share Posted October 23, 2016 10 hours ago, Scutley said: Google wants to be releasing Self-Driving cars in 2020. Also, they said they have been testing them in some markets, and I swear I've seen at least 2 Google cars while I'm driving around my city. I know they have a test center by me and the car said Google and some other stuff (I was stop at a light turning left, while the other car had a green and was going straight). It had a weird antenna thing on the top of the roof. Google Self-Driving Car google recently said they don't want to sell cars, they are only making the brains for them... you need to keep up to date on your google news they are partnering with a few large automakers to make the controllers and hardware for them to implement so google doesn't have to produce cars themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 22 hours ago, Scutley said: Which is the reason we need Self-Driving cars. Oh, sure, I want cars driving around by themselves with faulty/buggy software that have the ability to get hacked. At least you don't have those risks with humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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