New Rig Build $2500 Maybe Little Bit More

[Mockingbird]

4 minutes ago, ThaCrip said:

assuming your right... it's $1k which is WAY too much for a CPU if you ask me considering you can build a entire PC for that price and have a pretty good one at that.

 

i think even half of that $1k is too much for a CPU as, if you ask me, it's mostly about finding that sweet spot between price/performance in general (i realize the OP apparently has $$$ to burn and all, but still). i can't see paying more than around $300 tops for a CPU as your better off getting a reasonably priced CPU and then saving the $$$ for a future build as it's a more efficient use of your $$$ this way.

 

but money aside, 16 cores with 32 threads sure looks nice but it seems like overkill currently as i can't see too many things taking advantage of that, especially to the point there is any major benefit over what CPU's half of that price or less can't do more than well enough. like what can that CPU do that a CPU at half of that price or less can't? ; i can't imagine many people benefiting enough from that CPU to justify it's costs. but if you got money to burn then i guess you ain't got much to lose and should have a powerful PC for quite a few years into the future especially if what your doing really takes advantage of many cores.

 

p.s. it appears those CPU's are fairly large compared to what i am used to. about a credit card or so in size it seems.

What I am saying is that: if OP wants to spend $2.5K on a video editing computer, Ryzen Threadripper 1950X is what processor he should get.

 

It does help with video editing.

 

I have also already suggested a cheaper build with Ryzen 7 1700X above.

[DevTech]

"the Intel Core i7 7820X is a bit more expensive than the Ryzen 7 1800X, but in exchange it is a solid 17% faster at exporting, 15% faster at rendering previews, 32% faster at warp stabilize, and better at live playback. On average, this makes the i7 7820X about 18% faster than the AMD 7 1800X for $100 more. X299 motherboards do tend to be around $120 more than the lowest end AMD motherboard which will negate most of this pricing advantage, but keep in mind that the more affordable AMD motherboards are often lacking in features like WiFi or USB 3.1 and often use lower quality components to achieve the low price points. In addition, the AMD Ryzen CPUs only support 64GB of RAM and 24 PCI-E lanes while the Intel 6-10 cores support up to 128GB officially (or up to 512GB on X299 boards that support Registered RAM) and have either 28 or 44 PCI-E lanes"

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-1-2-CPU-Comparison-Skylake-X-Kaby-Lake-X-Broadwell-E-Kaby-Lake-Ryzen-7-969/

 

 

[Mockingbird]

23 minutes ago, DevTech said:

"the Intel Core i7 7820X is a bit more expensive than the Ryzen 7 1800X, but in exchange it is a solid 17% faster at exporting, 15% faster at rendering previews, 32% faster at warp stabilize, and better at live playback. On average, this makes the i7 7820X about 18% faster than the AMD 7 1800X for $100 more. X299 motherboards do tend to be around $120 more than the lowest end AMD motherboard which will negate most of this pricing advantage, but keep in mind that the more affordable AMD motherboards are often lacking in features like WiFi or USB 3.1 and often use lower quality components to achieve the low price points. In addition, the AMD Ryzen CPUs only support 64GB of RAM and 24 PCI-E lanes while the Intel 6-10 cores support up to 128GB officially (or up to 512GB on X299 boards that support Registered RAM) and have either 28 or 44 PCI-E lanes"

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-1-2-CPU-Comparison-Skylake-X-Kaby-Lake-X-Broadwell-E-Kaby-Lake-Ryzen-7-969/

 

 

AMD Ryzen 7 1700X (basically, slightly lower binned Ryzen 7 1800X) can be purchased for $299.99

 

Intel Core i7-7820X meanwhile can be purchased for $599.99

 

Motherboard with AMD B350 chipset can be purchased for as little as $59.99

 

Motherboard with Intel X399 chipset can be purchased for $214.99

 

#RESEARCH FAILED

[DevTech]

My impression is that too many people are making performance suggestions based on gaming experience or other workloads not related to the actual Video Editing.

 

Note that Video Encoding is NOT the same thing as Video editing when you look at benchmarks. (although it is an important task out of many)

 

This guy has a wonderful Editing Benchmark which allows us to add some real world data to the discussion, although the overall workflow only has a small amount of 4K:

 

"There are three important hardware items in a great video editing computer.  Our tests always have been Hardware tests using Premiere Pro to accomplish the end result of giving you information to build or upgrade your system.  It is not a media evaluation tool but it has four tests which stress test the CPU, GPU and Storage system. We do have a very complex H.264 Timeline that has 8-layers and has 8 different media types including some 4K media.  This exact same set of tests has survived Premiere Pro from CS5 and CS6 up through CC 2017 with out any changes to the timelines."

 

http://ppbm8.com/index.html

 

To download the benchmark here is the link for the 1 GB "ppbm.zip" file http://ppbm8.com/ppbm.zip

 

CPU's Ranked by CPU Intensive PPBM MPEG2-DVD Score

 

http://ppbm8.com/CPU/CPU.html

 

PPBM Storage Test Results Disk I/O

 

http://ppbm8.com/Storage/Storage.html

 

Premiere Pro GPU Acceleration

 

http://ppbm8.com/GPU/GPU.html

 

Of interest, the GPU acceleration was about 20X over just CPU and so GPU should be carefully considered. Two 1060's being faster than a single 1080 was also notable.

 

[DevTech]

10 minutes ago, Mockingbird said:

AMD Ryzen 7 1700X (basically, slightly lower binned Ryzen 7 1800X) can be purchased for $299.99

 

Intel Core i7-7820X meanwhile can be purchased for $599.99

 

Motherboard with AMD B350 chipset can be purchased for as little as $59.99

 

Motherboard with Intel X399 chipset can be purchased for $214.99

 

 

The Intel CPU is within his budget. He will have to live with his selection for a long time. 

 

For me it is no contest. I would rather video edit on the Intel build. More options. More expansion. More RAM. No brainer.

 

Time is money.

 

Also, please be polite. No need to be rude in a discussion that is helping another human being.

 

[Mockingbird]

27 minutes ago, DevTech said:

The Intel CPU is within his budget. He will have to live with his selection for a long time. 

 

For me it is no contest. I would rather video edit on the Intel build. More options. More expansion. More RAM. No brainer.

 

Time is money.

 

Also, please be polite. No need to be rude in a discussion that is helping another human being.

 

He can fit a Ryzen Threadripper 1950X in his budget.

 

I thought you are really concerned about PCIe lanes.

 

AMD X399 has more PCIe lanes than Intel X299.

 

Intel also crippled the cheaper Skylake-X with fewer PCIe lanes.

 

In order to get all the PCIe lanes, you would have to buy the $999 Core i9-7900X

 

In contrast, even the $549 Ryzen Threadripper 1900X has all of its PCIe lanes

 

AMD X399 supports 256GB DDR4 (ECC and non-ECC).  

 

Intel X299 supports 128GB DDR4 (non-ECC only).

 

And I didn't even mention how Intel uses thermal paste instead of solder to connect the die to the heat spreader.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Mockingbird

[DevTech]

15 minutes ago, Mockingbird said:

He can fit a Ryzen Threadripper 1950X in his budget.

 

Also, I thought you are really concerned about PCIe lanes.

 

AMD X399 has more PCIe lanes than Intel X299.

 

Intel also crippled the cheaper Skylake-X with fewer PCIe lanes.

 

In order to get all the PCIe lanes, he would have to buy the $999 Core i9-7900X

 

In contrast, even the $549 Ryzen Threadripper 1900X has all of its PCIe lanes

 

AMD X399 supports 256GB DDR4.  

 

Intel X299 supports 128GB DDR4.

 

And I didn't even mention how Intel uses thermal paste instead of solder to connect the die to the heat spreader.

Thanks for a well considered response. Everyone benefits.

 

I would still go with Intel and NVIDIA simply because in the end if both are in the same ballpark, Adobe is Adobe.

 

Also, some Video Editing workflows have a huge 3D component which would use a lot of floating point which could be a factor for some people, but I don't know how they compare there.

 

It would be interesting to add up a max PCIe Lane count for a well expanded system:

 

- Video x 2 = 32

- M.2 NVMe x 4 = 16

- Thunderbolt x 4 = 4??

- Everything else = 4??

 

[Mockingbird]

2 minutes ago, DevTech said:

Thanks for a well considered response. Everyone benefits.

 

I would still go with Intel and NVIDIA simply because in the end if both are in the same ballpark, Adobe is Adobe.

 

Also, some Video Editing workflows have a huge 3D component which would use a lot of floating point which could be a factor for some people, but I don't know how they compare there.

 

It would be interesting to add up a max PCIe Lane count for a well expanded system:

 

- Video x 2 = 32

- M.2 NVMe x 4 = 16

- Thunderbolt x 4 = 4??

- Everything else = 4??

 

You just contradicted yourself.

 

You said that you want the platform that has "More options. More expansion. More RAM."

 

That's the AMD X399 platform.

[DevTech]

1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

You just contradicted yourself.

 

You said that you want the platform that has "More options. More expansion. More RAM."

 

That's the AMD X399 platform.

I have no idea why you view discussions that help another person with ideas and considerations and probably painful choices as a debate.

 

I have preferences and you have preferences and the OP has probably a third set of preferences. Our job here is to feed him information and ideas he may not have thought about and not to tell him what to do.

 

For me, you have failed to make a persuasive argument if I was buying new hardware today for Video Editing since in the end Adobe has a tradition of supporting Intel and NVIDIA by default and other hardware as an after-thought.

 

Your information may very well be vital to the decisions the OP has to make and that's just great.

 

Your point about PCIe lanes was also great and laying out an actual estimate of # total lanes that might be probable over the lifetime of a Video Editing computer seemed like an interesting thing to do.

 

And 256 gigs of RAM is certainly better than 128.

 

X299 has a possible 512 gigs which is somewhat awe inspiring.

 

 

 

 

[Mockingbird]

26 minutes ago, DevTech said:

I have no idea why you view discussions that help another person with ideas and considerations and probably painful choices as a debate.

 

I have preferences and you have preferences and the OP has probably a third set of preferences. Our job here is to feed him information and ideas he may not have thought about and not to tell him what to do.

 

For me, you have failed to make a persuasive argument if I was buying new hardware today for Video Editing since in the end Adobe has a tradition of supporting Intel and NVIDIA by default and other hardware as an after-thought.

 

Your information may very well be vital to the decisions the OP has to make and that's just great.

 

Your point about PCIe lanes was also great and laying out an actual estimate of # total lanes that might be probable over the lifetime of a Video Editing computer seemed like an interesting thing to do.

 

And 256 gigs of RAM is certainly better than 128.

 

X299 has a possible 512 gigs which is somewhat awe inspiring.

The advices you give are terrible.

 

For example:

 

1. Recommending that a gamer (in another thread) spend his money buying 1 TB Samsung 960 Pro because it supposedly load games much faster than slower SSDs.

 

2. Recommending that the OP buy 64 GB DDR4.

 

It's like you didn't do any prior research and when someone calls you out on it, you have to go find something that supports your position while conveniently ignoring anything else that doesn't.

[Mando]

@OP both Devtech and Mockingbirds proposals would kick serious ass in your workload and BOTH would be a serious upgrade to any existing system your using. Pick your stables and run with it for best bang per buck....

 

Edited September 8, 2017 by Andrew

[Astra.Xtreme]

Anyway, I think OP needs to let us know if he intends to add a monitor from the same budget.  That will largely swing what his best options will be, and we can suggest monitors, arms, etc.  And does he intend on having mechanical HDD storage in there, or will that be in an external networked controller.  Things can be greatly simplified if the only storage will be an M.2 SSD. Cooling fans can then be very minimal even with a beast GPU.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Andrew

[Mando]

7 hours ago, Astra.Xtreme said:

Anyway, I think OP needs to let us know if he intends to add a monitor from the same budget.  That will largely swing what his best options will be, and we can suggest monitors, arms, etc.  And does he intend on having mechanical HDD storage in there, or will that be in an external networked controller.  Things can be greatly simplified if the only storage will be an M.2 SSD. Cooling fans can then be very minimal even with a beast GPU.

 

and yep i agree Astra, these days your case cooling does next to nothing to a well built/vented cooling solution on most modern GPUs. I can run with all my fans powered off, bar the CPU radiator fans at 600rpm while gaming and i see no ambient temp spikes, the 1080ti cooler keeps it cool regardless of ambients. 90% of the time thats the only fans that are active on my sig build. 115i cooler removing the CPU heat source easily and the 1080tis cooler does just fine with exhausting out any heat from the GPU.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Andrew

[Mockingbird]

11 hours ago, Mando said:

jeesh come on ladies, can we grow up and help the guy with advice and not bicker and play ###### for tat, we are all "meant" to be grown ups. it aint a peeing contest who can give the best system build, give the user options to decide himself.

 

@OP both Devtech and Mockingbirds proposals would kick serious ass in your workload and BOTH would be a serious upgrade to any existing system your using. Pick your stables and run with it for best bang per buck....

 

One of the most talked about features of Ryzen Threadripper is that it has more PCIe lanes than Skylake-X.

 

Intel was widely criticized for crippled the PCIe lanes for processors cheaper than the Core i9-7900X even more.

 

Ryzen Threadripper also support more memory.

 

These are just some of the most talked about features of the two platforms.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Andrew

[GamerZon360]

Thank you all for the input on this subject and please lets not fight on this thread. My goal wasn't to get people fighting, it was to get comments and thoughts on what is good processor out there. Both Intel and AMD have there features on there processor and both are good in there own ways. I have provide a bit more details on what my config might look like when I put it together. Maybe this will help you and me to make the final decision and move forward. Thank you again soon much for your time and help on this subject.

 

Case: Corsair 760T Full Tower (White)

Case Fans: Corsair HD RGB 120 or 140

 

System Board: Pending

 

Processor: Pending

Processor Cooling: Corsair Hydro Dual Radiator Liquid Cooling (H115i or H100 v2)

 

Graphic Card: Nvidia 1080 atleast and (No SLI Needed, Just Single Card)

 

System Ram: Pending (looking to start with 32GB)

Power Supply: Pending

 

SSD: at least 2 or 3 Samsung NVMe M.2 Drives (One Boot and One Project)

HHD: WD or Segate for Storage 

 

Optical Drive: None 

 

Sound Card: Optional 

 

Hope this help you guys and in the end I will get my answers, thanks Team

 

Josh 

[Mockingbird]

27 minutes ago, GamerZon360 said:

Thank you all for the input on this subject and please lets not fight on this thread. My goal wasn't to get people fighting, it was to get comments and thoughts on what is good processor out there. Both Intel and AMD have there features on there processor and both are good in there own ways. I have provide a bit more details on what my config might look like when I put it together. Maybe this will help you and me to make the final decision and move forward. Thank you again soon much for your time and help on this subject.

 

Case: Corsair 760T Full Tower (White)

Case Fans: Corsair HD RGB 120 or 140

 

System Board: Pending

 

Processor: Pending

Processor Cooling: Corsair Hydro Dual Radiator Liquid Cooling (H115i or H100 v2)

 

Graphic Card: Nvidia 1080 atleast and (No SLI Needed, Just Single Card)

 

System Ram: Pending (looking to start with 32GB)

Power Supply: Pending

 

SSD: at least 2 or 3 Samsung NVMe M.2 Drives (One Boot and One Project)

HHD: WD or Segate for Storage 

 

Optical Drive: None 

 

Sound Card: Optional 

 

Hope this help you guys and in the end I will get my answers, thanks Team

 

Josh 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor  ($979.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($333.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Corsair - Vengeance LED 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($291.57 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($117.60 @ B&H) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($117.60 @ B&H) 
Storage: *Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($75.18 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Turbo OC Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 760T Black V2 ATX Full Tower Case  ($137.39 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - HD120 RGB 54.4 CFM  120mm Fan  ($26.61 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $2849.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 11:45 EDT-0400

 

OR if you want slightly cheaper

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor  ($979.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC - Liquid Freezer 240 74.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($81.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($333.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Corsair - Vengeance LED 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($291.57 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Western Digital - Black PCIe 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Western Digital - Black PCIe 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($75.18 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Turbo OC Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *DIYPC - Gamemax-BK ATX Full Tower Case  ($59.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - HD120 RGB 54.4 CFM  120mm Fan  ($26.61 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $2738.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 12:04 EDT-0400

Edited September 8, 2017 by Mockingbird

[GamerZon360]

1 hour ago, Mockingbird said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor  ($979.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($333.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Corsair - Vengeance LED 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($291.57 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($117.60 @ B&H) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($117.60 @ B&H) 
Storage: *Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($75.18 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Turbo OC Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 760T Black V2 ATX Full Tower Case  ($137.39 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - HD120 RGB 54.4 CFM  120mm Fan  ($26.61 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $2849.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 11:45 EDT-0400

 

OR if you want slightly cheaper

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor  ($979.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC - Liquid Freezer 240 74.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($81.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($333.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Corsair - Vengeance LED 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($291.57 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Western Digital - Black PCIe 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Western Digital - Black PCIe 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($75.18 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Turbo OC Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *DIYPC - Gamemax-BK ATX Full Tower Case  ($59.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - HD120 RGB 54.4 CFM  120mm Fan  ($26.61 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $2738.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 12:04 EDT-0400

Thanks for the config, I am having a really hard time spending 1k just on a processor. Most of my processor that I have bought in the past (Intel) have never crossed the $500 limit. so I am guessing if I were to go with that then the i7-7820x or Ryzen 7 1800x will be the processors to look at? Is it worth the wait for the upcoming Intel refresh for my needs?

 

Josh 

[Nerd Rage]

13 hours ago, GamerZon360 said:

Which ThreadRipper do you have? I was looking at 1900x or 1920x? But the system boards are so freaken expensive!

I got the 1950X.  Power it brings at the price point is insane.  I agree though, the boards are pretty steep.  With your budget, unless you are including a nice monitor as well, you would be good to get a very nice Threadripper system.

[Mockingbird]

1 minute ago, Nerd Rage said:

I got the 1950X.  Power it brings at the price point is insane.  I agree though, the boards are pretty steep.  With your budget, unless you are including a nice monitor as well, you would be good to get a very nice Threadripper system.

You get what you paid for though.

 

Intel X299 motherboards are awful.

 

Look up "Intel X299 VRM disaster"

 

By contrast, AMD X399 motherboards have much better VRMs.

[Mockingbird]

22 minutes ago, GamerZon360 said:

Thanks for the config, I am having a really hard time spending 1k just on a processor. Most of my processor that I have bought in the past (Intel) have never crossed the $500 limit. so I am guessing if I were to go with that then the i7-7820x or Ryzen 7 1800x will be the processors to look at? Is it worth the wait for the upcoming Intel refresh for my needs?

 

Josh 

I recommend the Ryzen 7 1700X

 

Ryzen 7 1700, Ryzen 7 1700X, and Ryzen 7 1800X are pretty similar.

 

The main differences are the binning and the stock clock.

 

Would I pay $10-$20 more for Ryzen 7 1700X over the Ryzen 7 1700?       Yes, I would.

 

Would I pay $120 more for Ryzen 7 1800X over Ryzen 7 1700X?      H*** no!

[Nerd Rage]

1 minute ago, Mockingbird said:

I recommend the Ryzen 7 1700X

 

Ryzen 7 1700, Ryzen 7 1700X, and Ryzen 7 1800X are pretty similar.

 

The main differences are the binning and the stock clock.

 

Would I pay $10-$20 more for Ryzen 7 1700X over the Ryzen 7 1700?       Yes, I would.

 

Would I pay $120 more for Ryzen 7 1800X over Ryzen 7 1700X?      H*** no!

I couldn't argue there.  I got a Threadripper for my workstation setup and a Ryzen 1700 for my gaming rig.  I opted for the 1700 over the 1700x just for the power utilization (try to offset my Threadripper + Vega, lol).  I'm happy with the performance on both.  Ryzen is full of value.

[DevTech]

3 hours ago, GamerZon360 said:

Thank you all for the input on this subject and please lets not fight on this thread. My goal wasn't to get people fighting, it was to get comments and thoughts on what is good processor out there. Both Intel and AMD have there features on there processor and both are good in there own ways. I have provide a bit more details on what my config might look like when I put it together. Maybe this will help you and me to make the final decision and move forward. Thank you again soon much for your time and help on this subject.

 

Case: Corsair 760T Full Tower (White)

Case Fans: Corsair HD RGB 120 or 140

 

System Board: Pending

 

Processor: Pending

Processor Cooling: Corsair Hydro Dual Radiator Liquid Cooling (H115i or H100 v2)

 

Graphic Card: Nvidia 1080 atleast and (No SLI Needed, Just Single Card)

 

System Ram: Pending (looking to start with 32GB)

Power Supply: Pending

 

SSD: at least 2 or 3 Samsung NVMe M.2 Drives (One Boot and One Project)

HHD: WD or Segate for Storage 

 

Optical Drive: None 

 

Sound Card: Optional 

 

Hope this help you guys and in the end I will get my answers, thanks Team

 

Josh 

If you follow the links that I posted previously from people that actually make a living from Video Editing, you will find the information you need.

 

I have been assuming since your primary usage is video editing that you have been using Adobe Premiere, but Avid is another possibility. Every major vendor of Video Editing software has various degrees of hardware support for different devices and they mostly expect video professionals to purchase the hardware they support the most rather than the other way around.  For Adobe, you are like a salmon swimming upstream by using hardware that is not Intel and NVIDIA. For other software vendors the reverse could very well be the case.

 

You should consider avoiding perspectives centered around Gaming hardware and benchmarks common on the internet that focus on Gaming. There are also specialized forums for Video Editing that might be worth posting in, although as a rule the hardware knowledge is not high in those forums. 

 

[Brandon H Supervisor]

Okay guys. please try to stick with assisting GamerZon with his questions. 

[Brandon H Supervisor]

Healthy discussion is all well and good but not in a request thread. Please move the discussion to PMs or it's own thread as even OP has shown discomfort with current discussions.

 

Thank You

[The Evil Overlord]

Just now, DevTech said:

FWIW, I was a huge AMD fan back in the day and completely encourage any resurgence they might be able to achieve with Rizen. The skeptic in me is not optimistic about current chances since as Andy Grove once said, "Big Boys own Fabs" and Intel can cranks those babies up like crazy any time they don't fear anti-trust as much. Sessions is too busy ramping up a new "War on Drugs" to be bothering with Intel.

 

 

See, I am so embedded in the AMD camp, I may as well build my house here. The Intel vs AMD debate bores and annoys me on the grounds of real time use and even top tier gaming, AMD can, and to the best of my knowledge keep up, and I'm talking about fx chips. Benchmark figures mean diddly squat to me, as only the most nerdy of nerds care about those.

 

Another aspect I love is the cost tradeoff, OK so the fx9590 cannot keep up with it's rival Intel flagship chip, but it doesn't cost anywhere near as much neither.

 

(I'm not one to tell someone what they should spend their money on, but I am, and have always recommended and AMD build first.)

3 minutes ago, Brandon H said:

Healthy discussion is all well and good but not in a request thread. Please move the discussion to PMs or it's own thread as even OP has shown discomfort with current discussions.

 

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