Jim K Global Moderator Posted June 28, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted June 28, 2018 Quote ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) — A gunman opened fire at a newspaper office in Annapolis on Thursday, killing five people and gravely wounding a number of others before being taken into custody in what appeared to be one of the deadliest attacks on journalists in U.S. history, police and witnesses said. Police gave no immediate details on the gunman or the motive for the attack at The Capital Gazette and said he was being interrogated. Authorities said they also found what they believed to be an explosive device. Phil Davis, a reporter who covers courts and crime for the paper, tweeted that the gunman shot out the glass door to the office and fired into the newsroom, sending people scrambling for cover under desks. “A single shooter shot multiple people at my office, some of whom are dead,” he wrote. Davis added: “There is nothing more terrifying than hearing multiple people get shot while you’re under your desk and then hear the gunman reload.” The gunman, who officials said was not carrying identification, is believed to have used a shotgun, according to a U.S. official who was briefed on the investigation but not authorized to discuss it publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. The official said the gunman was not cooperating with investigators. /snip Full article at the Associated Press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcbworth Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakjak Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Looks like a loon who didn't like having his lawsuit thrown out he had against the gazette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Shotgun and possible explosive device. Targeted attack. People are nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) The paper wrote in 2011 of him being a stalker. He sued for defamation in 2012, lost in 2015, and had posted threats on social media. He'd damaged his fingers to prevent fingerprints or ID, but they used facial recognition. A seriously deranged 'toon. Story by the paper http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/annapolis/bs-md-gazette-shooting-20180628-story.html Edited June 29, 2018 by DocM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 ^ Link not available in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) This NBC story has a good rundown. This guy has been lighting up neon 'trouble' signs. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/suspect-maryland-newspaper-shooting-had-sued-capital-gazette-defamation-n887626 VultureTX 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Reuters editor apologizes, could be disciplined after blaming Capital Gazette shooting on Trump A top editor at Reuters apologized on Thursday night after blaming President Trump for the deadly Capital Gazette shooting in a now-deleted tweet that was sent during a “state of emotional distress,” but he might still be disciplined by the international news service. Reuters Breakingviews Editor Rob Cox admitted that he “responded emotionally and inappropriately” after being called out for jumping to conclusions prior to the facts emerging. Police said the suspected gunman, eventually identified as Jarrod W. Ramos, targeted the newspaper after a lengthy feud regarding a 2012 defamation lawsuit. “This is what happens when @realDonaldTrump calls journalists the enemy of the people. Blood is on your hands, Mr. President. Save your thoughts and prayers for your empty soul,” Cox wrote in the deleted tweet, according to TheWrap. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/06/29/reuters-editor-apologizes-could-be-disciplined-after-blaming-capital-gazette-shooting-on-trump.html DocM 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 There has to be more we can do other than thoughts and prayers... SecretAgentMan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, wv@gt said: There has to be more we can do other than thoughts and prayers... Nope. And nothing will ever change. We can't accomplish anything in this partisan climate. Forget all the other countries that have tackled this issue with success, those are different somehow. If this was 15 years ago it'd have been headline news for a month, now it's just another Thursday in America. Edited June 29, 2018 by shockz SecretAgentMan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+primortal Subscriber² Posted June 29, 2018 Subscriber² Share Posted June 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, shockz said: Nope. And nothing will ever change. We can't accomplish anything in this partisan climate. Unless the same happens inside of Congress or the White House, they'll just sit there with their fingers in their ears till it all blows over. We are a reactive species, not proactive; and would rather wait till something happens before actually doing something that was actually preventable in the first place. SecretAgentMan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I don't get it. There's been a shooting at a newspaper office but it says he went through two magazines? exotoxic 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, wv@gt said: There has to be more we can do other than thoughts and prayers... Like what? First there was a major call to ban assault rifles. Recent shootings are starting to use shotguns and explosive devices. Even handguns. More attention and research needs to go in to solving the human equation and getting to the root of the problem. Banning something is a temp solution/band-aid and it has been shown that people who want to do things like this can and will find other means. Buttus, DConnell, DocM and 1 other 3 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesees Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Elliot B. said: I don't get it. There's been a shooting at a newspaper office but it says he went through two magazines? Magazine: noun: 4) a metal receptacle for a number of cartridges, inserted into certain types of automatic weapons and when empty removed and replaced by a full receptacle in order to continue firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsYcHoKiLLa Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 29 minutes ago, wv@gt said: There has to be more we can do other than thoughts and prayers... Nope, unfortunately that's what happens when your political system is available for rental by corporation and interest groups like the NRA. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a politician in the US now that isn't susceptible to bribery. SecretAgentMan and shockz 1 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 hour ago, techbeck said: Reuters editor apologizes, could be disciplined after blaming Capital Gazette shooting on Trump A top editor at Reuters apologized on Thursday night after blaming President Trump for the deadly Capital Gazette shooting in a now-deleted tweet that was sent during a “state of emotional distress,” but he might still be disciplined by the international news service. Reuters Breakingviews Editor Rob Cox admitted that he “responded emotionally and inappropriately” after being called out for jumping to conclusions prior to the facts emerging. Police said the suspected gunman, eventually identified as Jarrod W. Ramos, targeted the newspaper after a lengthy feud regarding a 2012 defamation lawsuit. “This is what happens when @realDonaldTrump calls journalists the enemy of the people. Blood is on your hands, Mr. President. Save your thoughts and prayers for your empty soul,” Cox wrote in the deleted tweet, according to TheWrap. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/06/29/reuters-editor-apologizes-could-be-disciplined-after-blaming-capital-gazette-shooting-on-trump.html The hate and bias of media has been clear since day one. 35 minutes ago, PsYcHoKiLLa said: Nope, unfortunately that's what happens when your political system is available for rental by corporation and interest groups like the NRA. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a politician in the US now that isn't susceptible to bribery. Ask HIllary and Obama, they were leaders in this field. DConnell and SecretAgentMan 1 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Euphoria said: The hate and bias of media has been clear since day one. In a lot of cases, it is not hate. It is frustration and people acting out of emotion instead of rational thought. I understand their point of view and how they are feeling. I just have a diff opinion on how to go about figuring it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 minute ago, techbeck said: In a lot of cases, it is not hate. It is frustration and people acting out of emotion instead of rational thought. I understand their point of view and how they are feeling. I just have a diff opinion on how to go about figuring it out. It is an emotional response, but in this case and in the case of the Chief editor of New York Times this emotion was/is hate... You can not be an editor and publish/post responses without checking facts first.... His first emotion was, Trump! Republicans!, post a derogatory bigoted statement and then retract it once there is no evidence to support it... One question for all liberals, why Obama didnt change the gun law if he was president for 8 years? Was he also, as some people say, accepting bribes from NRA, or did he realize that the issue is not the gun but the mental state of these lunatics pressing the trigger. Buttus, SecretAgentMan, DocM and 1 other 2 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Euphoria said: One question for all liberals, why Obama didnt change the gun law if he was president for 8 years? Was he also, as some people say, accepting bribes from NRA, or did he realize that the issue is not the gun but the mental state of these lunatics pressing the trigger. Uhhh were you absent for the last 6 years he was president? Changing it would have required the republican majoriry to sign off on it, something they have zero interest in doing, to this day even, in regards to meaningful gun legislation. And before a mod or other comes in and tries to hush the direction of this discussion, you can't have a mass shooting thread and not discuss it. If so you might as well ban mass shooting threads, although at the rate the US is going, might as well merge them into a mega mass shooting thread. +Raze, +primortal, Brandon H and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Euphoria said: It is an emotional response, but in this case and in the case of the Chief editor of New York Times this emotion was/is hate... You can not be an editor and publish/post responses without checking facts first. Not going to argue to much here but acting/saying something out of emotion does not equal hate in many cases. Does not matter what position you are in, people act out of emotion all the time. But really all I have to say on it so we will just have to agree to disagree. 4 minutes ago, techbeck said: Not going to argue to much here but acting/saying something out of emotion does not equal hate in many cases. Does not matter what position you are in, people act out of emotion all the time. But really all I have to say on it so we will just have to agree to disagree. Serious question....did Obama present any plans or legislation to change things? Saying something needs to be done or displaying a call for action with no ideas/plan does not help much if anything. Edit, never mind.... http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx Seems like he was concerned about mental health as well. But you do not hear that argument much with cases like this. It is always ban this/ban that or it is so and sos fault. Edited June 29, 2018 by techbeck Brandon H, DConnell, dead.cell and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, shockz said: Uhhh were you absent for the last 6 years he was president? Changing it would have required the republican majoriry to sign off on it, News flash; Obama couldn't get enough Democratic votes even during the 2 years Dems held both the House and Senate. Dems are gun owners too, and they will vote like it. https://nypost.com/2018/06/29/accused-newsroom-shooters-stalking-victim-i-warned-cops/ Quote A woman who claimed that the Capital Gazette shooting suspect had stalked, harassed and sued her warned a former police official that “he will be your next mass shooter,” according to a new report. The woman, whose name was not released, also told local station WBAL 11 that Jarrod W. Ramos, 38, the shotgun-toting man who allegedly burst into the Capital Gazette in Annapolis, Md., on Thursday, killing five staffers, was “a f—ing nut job.” > Edited June 29, 2018 by DocM SecretAgentMan, shockz and Dysphoria 1 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Red King Subscriber² Posted June 29, 2018 Subscriber² Share Posted June 29, 2018 For that Anderson Cooper tweet, I am all for disallowing the mentally ill from owning weapons, but here is the problem no one is talking about that. Its all about banning things and not giving two ###### about the mentally ill. It already hard to own pew pews especially suppressed SBR types. DConnell 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsYcHoKiLLa Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Euphoria said: The hate and bias of media has been clear since day one. Ask HIllary and Obama, they were leaders in this field. Campaign money doesn't count. Passing legislation that is favourable to someone who gave you money does. That's why US politics are dirty like a swamp and it ain't getting drained anytime soon no matter what nonsense the orange moron might be spouting. SecretAgentMan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, PsYcHoKiLLa said: Campaign money doesn't count. Passing legislation that is favourable to someone who gave you money does. That's why US politics are dirty like a swamp and it ain't getting drained anytime soon no matter what nonsense the orange moron might be spouting. I didnt know that the 2nd amendment was just some legislation that got passed over the last year and a half... but then you are from Scotland.... so I'll forgive your ignorance... DocM and DConnell 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakjak Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 4 hours ago, techbeck said: Reuters editor apologizes, could be disciplined after blaming Capital Gazette shooting on Trump A top editor at Reuters apologized on Thursday night after blaming President Trump for the deadly Capital Gazette shooting in a now-deleted tweet that was sent during a “state of emotional distress,” but he might still be disciplined by the international news service. Reuters Breakingviews Editor Rob Cox admitted that he “responded emotionally and inappropriately” after being called out for jumping to conclusions prior to the facts emerging. Police said the suspected gunman, eventually identified as Jarrod W. Ramos, targeted the newspaper after a lengthy feud regarding a 2012 defamation lawsuit. “This is what happens when @realDonaldTrump calls journalists the enemy of the people. Blood is on your hands, Mr. President. Save your thoughts and prayers for your empty soul,” Cox wrote in the deleted tweet, according to TheWrap. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/06/29/reuters-editor-apologizes-could-be-disciplined-after-blaming-capital-gazette-shooting-on-trump.html When does Sean Hannity apologize for blaming it on Maxine waters? Oh. Double standards. SecretAgentMan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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