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On 25/06/2024 at 11:59, wakjak said:

Oh **** off. Next you're going to tell me that the windshield wiper will just stop working. Impossible. This truck is the best designed truck ever created....

https://mashable.com/article/tesla-cybertruck-wiper-recall
 

GAHHD DAMNIT!

The Edsel didn't have this many problems. Wasn't it bad enough it's the ugliest vehicle ever created, it had to be a pile of junk too?

On 25/06/2024 at 12:08, Thrackerzod said:

The Edsel didn't have this many problems. Wasn't it bad enough it's the ugliest vehicle ever created, it had to be a pile of junk too?

In all honestly I am really surprised that there has not been a class action lawsuit about knowingly selling a defective product. But then again, the people who buy them are musk's fanboys. 

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On 25/06/2024 at 10:24, primortal said:

 

 

In 2023 the Ford F-150 was recalled 57 times, 6 million vehicles.

https://www.newsweek.com/ford-recalls-6-million-cars-f150-axle-defect-safety-concerns-1857538#:~:text=An NHTSA pie chart illustrates,recalls issued across the industry.

 

This new one sounds like a fun ride...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ford-recalls-550000-pickup-trucks-transmissions-suddenly-downshift-111396299

"DETROIT -- Ford is recalling more than 550,000 pickup trucks in the U.S. because the transmissions can unexpectedly downshift to first gear no matter how fast the trucks are going.

The recall covers certain F-150 pickups from the 2014 model year. Ford's F-Series pickups are the top-selling vehicles in the U.S.

Ford says in documents posted Tuesday by U.S. safety regulators that the downshifting can cause drivers to lose control of the trucks, increasing the risk of a crash."

 

Also this year, 820,000 Silverado 2500s were recalled, a safety issue with the tailgate.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/02/business/gm-recall-trucks-tailgate/index.html

In case you haven't heard, the mechanical emergency keys can fail too, and a dead battery in the fob is not a fun day either. 

My take on keyless entry is all of them need redundant car-side power in addition to the vehicle's 12/48 volt accessory systems. It's only job is to make the f'ing doors work.

I wasn't responding because the conversation was going from the usual inane to aggressive 6th grade pile on crap. Sometimes you guys act like you're still in puberty.

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On 25/06/2024 at 13:37, DocM said:

 

In 2023 the Ford F-150 was recalled 57 times, 6 million vehicles.

https://www.newsweek.com/ford-recalls-6-million-cars-f150-axle-defect-safety-concerns-1857538#:~:text=An NHTSA pie chart illustrates,recalls issued across the industry.

 

This new one sounds like a fun ride...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ford-recalls-550000-pickup-trucks-transmissions-suddenly-downshift-111396299

"DETROIT -- Ford is recalling more than 550,000 pickup trucks in the U.S. because the transmissions can unexpectedly downshift to first gear no matter how fast the trucks are going.

The recall covers certain F-150 pickups from the 2014 model year. Ford's F-Series pickups are the top-selling vehicles in the U.S.

Ford says in documents posted Tuesday by U.S. safety regulators that the downshifting can cause drivers to lose control of the trucks, increasing the risk of a crash."

 

Also this year, 820,000 Silverado 2500s were recalled, a safety issue with the tailgate.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/02/business/gm-recall-trucks-tailgate/index.html

In case you haven't heard, the mechanical emergency keys can fail too, and a dead battery in the fob is not a fun day either. 

My take on keyless entry is all of them need redundant car-side power in addition to the vehicle's 12/48 volt accessory systems. It's only job is to make the f'ing doors work.

I wasn't responding because the conversation was going from the usual inane to aggressive 6th grade pile on crap. Sometimes you guys act like you're still in puberty.

You never fail in your whataboutism rhetoric.

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On 25/06/2024 at 12:37, DocM said:

In case you haven't heard, the mechanical emergency keys can fail too, and a dead battery in the fob is not a fun day either. 

My take on keyless entry is all of them need redundant car-side power in addition to the vehicle's 12/48 volt accessory systems. It's only job is to make the f'ing doors work.

I wasn't responding because the conversation was going from the usual inane to aggressive 6th grade pile on crap. Sometimes you guys act like you're still in puberty.

Yet, with a dead FOB...you can use the mechanical key backup to gain entry and the dead FOB can be used to start the car (usually requires holding the FOB next to the start engine button).  Are you really suggesting that both FOB and mechanical key could fail, I mean sure...I guess...but come on.  🤡

Not shocking you came back without backing up the following claim "On some vehicles, this one a 2019 Hyundai, most are going completely keyless. "

 

On 25/06/2024 at 07:07, illumination said:

....yeah, I wouldn't doubt if the problem with that one was the driver.

On 25/06/2024 at 10:37, DocM said:

 

In 2023 the Ford F-150 was recalled 57 times, 6 million vehicles.

https://www.newsweek.com/ford-recalls-6-million-cars-f150-axle-defect-safety-concerns-1857538#:~:text=An NHTSA pie chart illustrates,recalls issued across the industry.

 

This new one sounds like a fun ride...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ford-recalls-550000-pickup-trucks-transmissions-suddenly-downshift-111396299

"DETROIT -- Ford is recalling more than 550,000 pickup trucks in the U.S. because the transmissions can unexpectedly downshift to first gear no matter how fast the trucks are going.

The recall covers certain F-150 pickups from the 2014 model year. Ford's F-Series pickups are the top-selling vehicles in the U.S.

Ford says in documents posted Tuesday by U.S. safety regulators that the downshifting can cause drivers to lose control of the trucks, increasing the risk of a crash."

 

Also this year, 820,000 Silverado 2500s were recalled, a safety issue with the tailgate.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/02/business/gm-recall-trucks-tailgate/index.html

In case you haven't heard, the mechanical emergency keys can fail too, and a dead battery in the fob is not a fun day either. 

My take on keyless entry is all of them need redundant car-side power in addition to the vehicle's 12/48 volt accessory systems. It's only job is to make the f'ing doors work.

I wasn't responding because the conversation was going from the usual inane to aggressive 6th grade pile on crap. Sometimes you guys act like you're still in puberty.

I’m just waiting for you to back up the comment you made about most vehicles are going keyless, in reference to not having a manual unlock method. 
 

Nothing childish nor aggressive about asking you to back that up. So when are you gonna answer me?

On 25/06/2024 at 18:37, DocM said:

Sometimes you guys act like you're still in puberty.

Says the guy who comes here and lies, deflects, flip-flops on the truth and generally just wants Musk and Trump to turn up to his gym so he can see them in the changing room…

On 25/06/2024 at 13:37, DocM said:

So what. Do you think that it excuses how bad the cybertruck is?

On 25/06/2024 at 08:07, illumination said:

It's a feature, not a bug.  Maybe the Tesla shareholders will give Musk a couple billion more in bonus money when they hear about this.  They do seem to live in opposite world.

Sure the tech is nice, but I cannot get over the design over this vehicle, it is downright ugly. I see so many of them in my area now and they are just hideous. Tesla is a bunch of computer nerds attempting to build a vehicle, I much prefer Rivian's approach which was car people adding tech to a vehicle.

On 26/06/2024 at 17:28, Xenon said:

So what. Do you think that it excuses how bad the cybertruck is?

DocMs statement is also incorrect. Ford issued 57 recalls across ALL their vehicles, not the F150. How many models does Ford sell in the USA?

Comparing a poor quality build like the Cybertruck to Ford recalls is also a bit dumb. Usually, Ford recalls are due to a poor quality part that failed or was installed wrong, or as in my case, a recall on a BMW E46 because they discovered after 20 years that the airbag could suddenly go off, (after a couple of accidents and deaths from the issue happened in Europe), and this was the fault of the airbag manufacturer, not BMW itself.

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On 05/07/2024 at 07:22, Slugsie said:

DocMs statement is also incorrect. Ford issued 57 recalls across ALL their vehicles, not the F150. How many models does Ford sell in the USA?

Of course it is. He never tells the truth about anything. Don't trust a thing he says. 

On 05/07/2024 at 10:38, Steven P. said:

Comparing a poor quality build like the Cybertruck to Ford recalls is also a bit dumb. Usually, Ford recalls are due to a poor quality part that failed or was installed wrong, or as in my case, a recall on a BMW E46 because they discovered after 20 years that the airbag could suddenly go off, (after a couple of accidents and deaths from the issue happened in Europe), and this was the fault of the airbag manufacturer, not BMW itself.

It's a BMW what do you expect? 😛 (I hate them slightly less than tesla's )

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