Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (Paramount+)

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On 08/08/2023 at 02:56, WaynesWorld said:

This silliness has to stop......

Going where no man has gone before is one thing, but this silly-assed musical episode is what happens when you start screwing around with ###### that you have absolutely ZERO idea about what it is, where it came from, why it exists, who or what created it, how long it's been there, how long will it remain etc etc ect...shall I continue ?

And since Pelia was the one who suggested using musical signals and is responsible for the consequences, either get her dumb ass of the show or give her half a brain & something more constructive to do.... you would have that someone who has been around as long as she has would have either known about the "fold" thing already, or at least would have known better than to go screwing around with it.........

I'm pretty sure Gene's vision of the future did NOT include crap episodes like this, but he couldn't have predicted the writer's strike either, so there's that :D

I'm rewatching TOS for the past few weeks and I'm up to the Season 2, EP9, but some of the things they had to do to get themselves out of situations were also "silly" such as acting out to confuse Androids so they overloaded with confusion. Spock, more than once losing his composure and I haven't even seen that episode yet where Spock jams with space hippies. Uhura once danced and sang in the moonlight to distract the enemy in Star Trek V, and whatever you feel about that film personally, it is cannon.

Silly things have happened in Trek, and SNW adopted it from TOS. If anything they truly went back to the roots of the show.

SNW is no Picard.

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On 08/08/2023 at 09:09, Steven P. said:

Silly things have happened in Trek, and SNW adopted it from TOS. If anything they truly went back to the roots of the show.

True, TOS was camp, and it's nice to see they picked up some of these things from TOS and ran with it..

But TOS didn't have a musical episode, unlike SNW. I hate musical episodes in every show, not just ST.... 😡

The episode with the Lower Deck characters was hilarious, and a great idea! :D

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Another great episode :D

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Though I despise end of season TBC episodes 🤬

We finally have Scotty! So, will they kill off Pela next season and he takes over or be like Kirk and go to another ship for some time...

 

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On 11/08/2023 at 18:33, primortal said:

Another great episode :D

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Though I despise end of season TBC episodes 🤬

We finally have Scotty! So, will they kill off Pela next season and he takes over or be like Kirk and go to another ship for some time...

 

Good casting and I agree about end of season cliffhangers, but that was also typical Trek with ST:TNG, DS9, VOY and Enterprise.

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On 08/08/2023 at 08:09, Steven P. said:

I'm rewatching TOS for the past few weeks and I'm up to the Season 2, EP9, but some of the things they had to do to get themselves out of situations were also "silly" such as acting out to confuse Androids so they overloaded with confusion. Spock, more than once losing his composure and I haven't even seen that episode yet where Spock jams with space hippies. Uhura once danced and sang in the moonlight to distract the enemy in Star Trek V, and whatever you feel about that film personally, it is cannon.

Silly things have happened in Trek, and SNW adopted it from TOS. If anything they truly went back to the roots of the show.

SNW is no Picard.

Whilst I agree, 2 silly episodes back to back was a mistake...

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On 11/08/2023 at 23:36, Steven P. said:

Good casting and I agree about end of season cliffhangers, but that was also typical Trek with ST:TNG, DS9, VOY and Enterprise.

Whoever it was that decided to end it on that cliffhanger should be forced to watch ALL of Lost back to back, but denied the final episode...

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I've been pretty busy as of late so I finally watched 9 and 10 back to back.   While the music bits in 9 aren't my cup of tea I give them points for doing it. 

I'd also like to point out that 9 did have some very good character development for Laan and also Spock when you break it down. 

 

Episode 10, cliffhanger aside was solid, and omg huge character introduction, which I loved.  The wait for season 3 is going to be tough with the strike going on, who knows when we'll get it. 

 

Laan wanting some of that James T Kirk is also as canon as it gets. 

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kill off Pelia 

they have my vote for this.... I really like Carol as an actress in her other roles, but the role she has been given here is a complete waste of her talents and screen time...

On 12/08/2023 at 08:33, George P said:

Laan wanting some of that James T Kirk is also as canon as it gets. 

Since her very 1st episode, I thought that she needed some warp-powered TLC, so she could lose that zombyfied, always-######-off-at-the-galaxy facade that she thinks makes her so seem so tuff to everyone.... yea yea, I know she had a rough childhood and carries alot of baggage from it, but still, just lighten up chic & make some friends already :)

 

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On 12/08/2023 at 16:52, thexfile said:

According to the creators, SNW was intended to have a three-year run, much like Picard.

I really hope not.  I’d love to see the series last a little longer.

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It needs to have a 5 year run to match the 5 year mission statement.    After that they should go all in and jump into some TOS with these new actors.   I know some die hards might hate the idea, but think of it this way.  When we started off TOS Kirk and co were already on the ship for some time.  There's room there to show us how it all started and how Kirk took command and got to know everyone over time.   TOS only had 3 seasons, you could think of it as the last 3 years of the 5 year mission, so we still have the first 2 years to work with.

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On 12/08/2023 at 00:53, FloatingFatMan said:

Whoever it was that decided to end it on that cliffhanger should be forced to watch ALL of Lost back to back, but denied the final episode...

Yes... Because that last episode fixed the whole series /s :D

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On 13/08/2023 at 10:10, George P said:

It needs to have a 5 year run to match the 5 year mission statement.    After that they should go all in and jump into some TOS with these new actors.   I know some die hards might hate the idea, but think of it this way.  When we started off TOS Kirk and co were already on the ship for some time.  There's room there to show us how it all started and how Kirk took command and got to know everyone over time.   TOS only had 3 seasons, you could think of it as the last 3 years of the 5 year mission, so we still have the first 2 years to work with.

Well, technically speaking it got all 5... if you include TAS. 😬

Presumably Pike has the accident and Kirk has to come in and rebuild moral. However I don't think that there is anything to say that Pike only has 5 years in command.

 

'The Cage' = 2254 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Pike_(Star_Trek))

He is on a 5 year mission in 2257 (ending 2259 at the earliest) (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Five-year_mission)

His discovery crossover occurs 2257 - 2258 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Pike_(Star_Trek))

2259 is when SNW series 1 takes place (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek)

I am not sure that there is a canon date for Kirk taking command, 2264/2265 seem roughly consistent in appearance, with the Enterprise going for refit in 2264 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek)

This one says that Pike's accident accident was 2268/2269 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek) while this one says 2266 (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Christopher_Pike#Career_as_Fleet_captain)

'The Menagerie' = 2267 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Pike_(Star_Trek))

 

If his first 5 year mission ended in 2259 and Kirk doesn't take over until 2264, then there is room for a second 5 year mission or to be doing something in between the end of the 5 year mission and being called in for refit. Certainly, if series 1 is 2259 then it can go out to 2264 as series 5.

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Strange New Worlds has been renewed for a 4th season, currently season 3 is being filmed now.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-renewed-lower-decks-ending-1235969332/

 

For Lower Decks fans the final (5th) season will air later this year.

 

Looks like 5 seasons is the max for Star Trek shows....

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On 12/04/2024 at 22:10, primortal said:

Strange New Worlds has been renewed for a 4th season, currently season 3 is being filmed now.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-renewed-lower-decks-ending-1235969332/

 

For Lower Decks fans the final (5th) season will air later this year.

 

Looks like 5 seasons is the max for Star Trek shows....

I think 5 seasons is good, though if it's a show I like more like SNW, you'd want more of course.  But if you treat each season as a year of the mission then it works out.  

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On 22/09/2024 at 07:35, DocM said:

ST: Strange New Worlds 

S3 filming complete, release in (early?) 2025

S4 starts filming in March 2025

S3 teaser (cool!)

 

 

So looking forward to it :D 

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I have a feeling the plan is to do 5 seasons and then see where they go from there.  I wouldn't complain if we got more but if each season is 1 year of the 5 year mission, then I'm cool with it.

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