Enabling DCE

[freakyfriday]

Yeah, I can see that as well; like a very, VERY light pattern overlay. Is that with DCE enabled, or not? I didn't really pay much attention to the taskbar when I installed 4053 last.

yes its not DCE its just like that, mine is like that i have a older video card so i can't even enable DCE does not support directx9

[cpu killer]

Ah well :(, I didnt do anything it was just like that :p

anyways, back to the drawing board for us than..

[fakpuppet]

btw has anyone started the dce?

i have so far managed to only get the "partial" start of the DCE where you get the familiar black-dotted (otherwise to be transparent) corners of the windows and terrible lag behind the cursor when moving windows around desktop. that's about it... yeah and there definitely is a drop in CPU usage with the redraw of windows that have sorta complex contents (for example windows explorer displaying thumbnails of a picture-crowded my pictures folder). where you'd usually have 100% CPU load now it goes to about 60% max with now blank areas on the lower level windows again accompanied with the choppy and lagging window movement (that probably in part at least consequence of the DCE doing software rendering).

[cpu killer]

Heres the video of DCE working in 4051 that I talked about:

http://dibob.kxgard3.net/4051.dce.wmv

Take a look, not sure if this is the one posted by alphaAlien tho..

:).

[Medievil]

ist that just windowFX?

[cpu killer]

dunno :-/...dont even remember where I got the video.

[JadeWolf324]

and is it known how exactly to get 4051 to do that? or even look like that for that matter? i didnt they they had it working properly.

[cpu killer]

im pretty POSITIVE there was a post here exactly about AlphaAliens DCE pack which had this attached as proof...

[michaeltal]

hmm, looks like WindowFX! :angry:

Michael

[JadeWolf324]

where does one get WindowFX?

[michaeltal]

where does one get WindowFX?

Klick

[JadeWolf324]

k. does 4051 really look like in the video above?

[fr1sk3y]

i think so, and i'm sure they didn't use windowfx (it uses almost the full cpu -- i've tested it on my lh) and also windowfx doesn't have such effect -- similar but with "rotating grip"

[fr1sk3y]

also, windowfx, as you maybe noticed, transforms both the titlebar and the contents of the window, and the "dce engine" shown in the video doesn't

[Illusion456]

Sorry, but that's clearly WindowFX in action there. That is the "Basic Swaying Windows" in the window dragging options. Anyone that's used WindowFX for awhile should be able to tell thats it in action. The waving motions of the windows in this video and WindowFX are identical, especially when he moved it from top to bottom. Go back and watch the video of the demo of the real DCE effects in motion and you'll see a totally different curvature and motion in that video, and the wave noticably slows down very fluidly before coming to a rest instead of a really quick static waving motion like in WindowFX and this video. He might not be using much processor power, not sure what trick he used for that, but that is WindowFX in action.

Edited March 18, 2004 by Illusion456

[freakyfriday]

Heres the video of DCE working in 4051 that I talked about:

http://dibob.kxgard3.net/4051.dce.wmv

Take a look, not sure if this is the one posted by alphaAlien tho..

:).

that's just windowsFX

[fr1sk3y]

that's just windowsFX

it isn't, windowfx always cuts some of the edges of the windows. see this:

[Mx]

It is WindowsFX, alphaalien confirmed the video creaters just installed WindowsFx on 4051.

[fr1sk3y]

ok sorry, i was wrong

[fakpuppet]

It is WindowsFX, alphaalien confirmed the video creaters just installed WindowsFx on 4051.

Regardless of what AlphaAlien may have "confirmed" the video looks way too good for WindowFX from what I've seen WindowFX being capable. Quite frankly, WindowFX is real crap and the "Basic Swaying Windows" warps a window nothing like in the video. I'd say that the video indeed shows DCE if we're to make any judgement based on that video.

[Coolme]

:o Found something interesting. I think that this video is edited by macromedia...

Here's why....

Look at it closly(I tried to take a picture of it, but I can't) look when the guys moves the task manager, you see that? NO EFFECTS!! :huh: (Below is a recreation to reference what to look for in the video)

[JadeWolf324]

can someone PM me the needed DLL's for this to work (milcore and the Sbctl and whatever else?) im close to getting this to work.

[fr1sk3y]

Found something interesting. I think that this video is edited by macromedia...

Here's why....

Look at it closly(I tried to take a picture of it, but I can't) look when the guys moves the task manager, you see that? NO EFFECTS!!  (Below is a recreation to reference what to look for in the video)

we can find the truth if we have 3 videos from WinHEC '03 - i''m talking abut the dizzy effects, wavy windows and the last one i can't remember. there were shown rotating windows and wavy ones - if there's Task Manager in these videos and it has the dce effects -> the 4051 video is FAKE

btw JadeWolf324 check your inbox ;)

[Coolme]

we can find the truth if we have 3 videos from WinHEC '03 - i''m talking abut the dizzy effects, wavy windows and the last one i can't remember. there were shown rotating windows and wavy ones - if there's Task Manager in these videos and it has the dce effects -> the 4051 video is FAKE

btw JadeWolf324 check your inbox ;)

I was talking about this video... LH Video

[fr1sk3y]

Coolme, i know what you're talking about, but we can do the following: if in one of the three videos there's the task manager and it has dce effects on it -> the video is fake, else, you can see what effect would WindowFX add to the task manager window when you remove the title bar (click twice on the free are above the listview) - none