KDE vs. Gnome

[ThunderRiver]

My vote goes to KDE just because KDE is written in C++, and Gnome is mostly done in C.

[Fred Derf Veteran]

My vote goes to KDE just because KDE is written in C++, and Gnome is mostly done in C.

As long as you're being technical... Gnome uses GTK libraries and KDE uses QT. Therefore my vote goes to Gnome.

(well actually I already voted other, but you get the idea...)

[kongit]

My vote goes to KDE just because KDE is written in C++, and Gnome is mostly done in C.

and this affects how it works or looks how? it could be written in pachal for all I care as long it works good, is quick enough, and looks good......errr would be hard to make quick in pascal but you get my point. c and c++ for the purposes of the desktop are really about the same.

[slapnuts_ox]

I personally am a Gnome fan. That out of the way there are several features which KDE has which I wish gnome had but it is a tradeoff. Gnome is simple and straight foward. I feel as if KDE is cluttered in a sense but has a lot of eye candy and is full of tons of features. One really nice feature of KDE is how if you upgrade to a new version of QT its changes take effect in all KDE apps, where in gnome when a new version of GTK is released you have to update the applications to take advantage of the new features. I also like the tabbed browsing feature which Konquorer has and really wish Gnome had that. Finally even though it is a "dirty hack" as some might call it, KDE has transparencies in its menus and I really would love to see Gnome have that as well but the Gnome devel team already stated that they will wait till X supports it. Still even though I wish Gnome had these features Im still a Gnome fan. I do however plan on possibly switching to XFCE when it hits 4.2 because it will add menu support and a few new features. I feel the best approach is to keep an open mind with the linux desktop.

[DTR]

KDE 3.2. It is even better than osx, really. And you can tweak it in 10 min (for windows you need much more) so that it looks more than great. Take a look at the screenshot. But you'll obviously need gnome, because several best apps are gtk (gimp, firefox, gaim, evolution). KDE interact smoothly with Gnome apps in contrast to gnome with KDE apps. All in all gnome is even more dumbed down than windows . So thats why I at least dislike it. Open file or Save file is too little for me. I need options and KDE gives them

[kemical]

im running gnome 2.5.92 which is 2.6 rc 1 under garnome and its pimp, wait until final 2.6 and youll change to gnome ;-)

[hornett]

I wish the Gnome had a busy cursor or something when you double click an icon - often I don't see any activity after my double click so I do so again, then get two copies of the same thing open. Plus the bouncy thing in KDE looks cool ;)

[CaKeY]

I wish the Gnome had a busy cursor or something when you double click an icon - often I don't see any activity after my double click so I do so again, then get two copies of the same thing open. Plus the bouncy thing in KDE looks cool ;)

I see a nice litttle clock when I click on something.

[DTR]

im running gnome 2.5.92 which is 2.6 rc 1 under garnome and its pimp, wait until final 2.6 and youll change to gnome ;-)

Haven't tried that yet. It'll be ages before debian uploads it. Anyway gnome will NEVER have anything comprable to konqueror or k3b. The most important fact gtk apps look nice and load fast under kde while it takas ages for qt/kde app in gnome. I quess I'll try it and switch back in 10 minutes as usually.

[metal_dragen Veteran]

If I run a full DE (which is rare these days), I go for GNOME. It's much faster than KDE for me, looks cleaner, more professional, and isn't bloated and cluttered.

I just compiled KDE 3.2 on my box the other day to give it another go, and it really hasn't changed that much since 3.0. It's slightly faster (though that's due mostly to improvements in the QT code), the configuration screens are a little cleaner and easier to find, and it looks better than it did with the Keramik style (Go Plastik! :D ).

But it's still slower than GNOME, more bloated than GNOME, and all the apps I use are GTK apps anyway (X-Chat 2, gAIM, gFTP, GIMP, Firefox, XMMS, Rhythmbox, gToaster), so why run a QT desktop?

[EDIT] Almost forgot to give props to the WM I use 95% of the time - PekWM.

[mcnelson]

Gnome, because it's nice...can't explain much beyond that, it's a purely personal preference.

:cool:

[isomer]

Gnome all the way. It looks and feels professional and it is so. Also its going to be much better in 2.6 with the (total) remake of Nautilus...

[isomer]

My vote goes to KDE just because KDE is written in C++, and Gnome is mostly done in C.

o wow this makes almost no difference. C++ is just C with some OOP thrown in

[hornett]

@sttroopers - you get a different mouse cursor when you double click an icon on the desktop? I get no feedback at all on every distro I've tried.

[kjordan2001]

o wow this makes almost no difference. C++ is just C with some OOP thrown in

You'd actually be surprised at the difference it makes.

[MrStaticVoid]

I get no feedback at all on every distro I've tried.

You must be using at least GNOME 2.2 and have the

*  x11-libs/startup-notification

      Latest version available: 0.5

      Latest version installed: 0.5

      Size of downloaded files: 207 kB

      Homepage:    http://www.freedesktop.org/software/startup-notification/

      Description: Application startup notification and feedback library

      License:    LGPL-2 BSD

package.

[MegaManXcalibur]

I'm a bigger fan of KDE myself, but they are both good Windows Managers, it's all a matter of personal preference.

[CaKeY]

@sttroopers - you get a different mouse cursor when you double click an icon on the desktop? I get no feedback at all on every distro I've tried.

Ya, i get a nice little clock.

[Moparx]

im a Gnome user.

while i like KDE and used to use it extensively years ago, i find gnome just feels right for me.

[MulletRobZ]

KDE was the first GUI I used in Linux and also at first, I didn?t like GNOME that much. Now, GNOME has become very good to use and even though it doesn?t has some of the applications that KDE includes, it definitely runs better:):)

[leadcelt]

:D So heres why KDE wins... period, and at least half the votes cast here don't matter much:

I am a regular person, not a programmer, not a KDE or Gnome partisan... just a regular computer user, but by regular, I mean one who spends money and makes business decisions. When I need to know about linux, I'll hire someone to do it for me,.. or maybe ten someones. But I know business, I know where the value-chain begins and ends... and at the beginning there's the customer: a regular person with a personal need or a business objective,.... and at the end of the value-chain is the same person either happily paying for it all, or angrily "making a change".

If Linux is going to stick, it must inevitably win the hallowed ground of the consumer: the regular person. I've been a DOS power user (while most of you were watching Barney or transformers or He-Man or something) an engineer, a windows "early-adopter" and power user, I've used a Mac (PPC) and I just gotta tell-ya!! As long as you require me to assemble pieces and modules of a distribution rather than a simple "single-click" automatic preconfigured inctallation.... I can't go for it. This gives big-brother his edge, and he's moving chess pieces right now that could render all of you irrelevant. He's building his algorithms into MPEG std's, he's getting his technology onboard in television sets and games and media players, and as long as he can build his architecture into the consumers "need", you will all pay him a toll as your servers and apps will have to support it all. Remember, it's our almighty dollar that makes your whole industry turn. Give me a Linux desktop that measures up to Apple and XP, and we can hobble the MS straglehold.

As an unbiased consumer I have to say that KDE (with super Karamba) offers me a skinnable configurable UI that I can make into whatever I want (including that OS2-looking Joke you call Gnome) but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Visit Wincustomize.org and you'll see the kind of customization that OSX and XP already give me. It doesn't matter if you disdain such eye-candy,... it's not about you, about programmers... its about you serving the needs of regular people, and we go for an attractive UI. And the next twenty-something neophyte who tells me I should build a car from individual parts,.... that's what I hire kids like you to do!

[kongit]

whatever. Gnome is much more professional and is suited for business use.

[Roadworthy]

:D So heres why KDE wins... period, and at least half the votes cast here don't matter much:

blah, blah, blah, pwetty pictures of flutterbys, blah blah

,.... that's what I hire kids like you to do!

Feeling a little self-important today are we?

Gnome - it's simple and effective

[Fred Derf Veteran]

:D So heres why KDE wins... period, and at least half the votes cast here don't matter much:

I mean one who spends money and makes business decisions. When I need to know about linux, I'll hire someone to do it for me,.. or maybe ten someones. But I know business, I know where the value-chain begins and ends...

That's the funniest post I've ever read.

It begins to talk about business needs and then goes on to discuss the fact the KDE is better because it is skinnable. I'm sorry but I've never met one business person who cares about anything being skinnable. I have, however, come across many home user hobbiest-types that do care about such details.

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Haven't tried that yet. It'll be ages before debian uploads it. Anyway gnome will NEVER have anything comprable to konqueror or k3b. The most important fact gtk apps look nice and load fast under kde while it takas ages for qt/kde app in gnome. I quess I'll try it and switch back in 10 minutes as usually.

Gnome 2.6 is on Debian via apt-get. It has been for the past few days.

Are there any KDE apps that you can't do without? Kolf? Most of the professional aps at GTK are they not?