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Like it or not, IE is the standard, get used to it.  If the site doesn't work, it's very unlikely that the author is going to care about the 1 or 2% that don't use IE.

IE is not the standard. MS create their own engine called MSHTML that isn't complaint with the W3C standards.

And if you look at the latest stats...Firefox and all Mozilla based browsers now own a 10% share of the market for internet while IE usership has fallen.

And to use your words:

Like it or not...MS is going to have to become compliant with the standards to remain competitive. Plus they are going to have to continue to implement new features like pop up blocking, tabbed browsing, download manager.

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If the site doesn't work, it's very unlikely that the author is going to care about the 1 or 2% that don't use IE.

Again, whose fault is that? The author is too lazy to make his site compatible with standards, that's his fault. And as AT pointed out, only about 80% of people use IE nowadays, and that number is constantly falling. 20% of internet users is no small amount.

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Again, whose fault is that? The author is too lazy to make his site compatible with standards, that's his fault. And as AT pointed out, only about 80% of people use IE nowadays, and that number is constantly falling. 20% of internet users is no small amount.

Neowin looks like crap with firefox 0.8 in slackware.

So, there. I said it.

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Neowin looks like crap??? :blink:

I've been using Firefox now since it came out and the only good thing I have left to say about that IE POS is that it helps idiots peruse the web. I'm sorry, yes I am a programmer/web developer, and have been programming since 1988. There are too many stupid computer users on the web now, and I feel if we don't do something soon its going to be out of hand. Lets unite in unison developers, build sites only to W3C standards, screw IE. ;)

There, I said it. :ninja:

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Neowin looks like crap??? :blink:

I've been using Firefox now since it came out and the only good thing I have left to say about that IE POS is that it helps idiots peruse the web. I'm sorry, yes I am a programmer/web developer, and have been programming since 1988. There are too many stupid computer users on the web now, and I feel if we don't do something soon its going to be out of hand. Lets unite in unison developers, build sites only to W3C standards, screw IE. ;)

There, I said it. :ninja:

It's already out of hand. Blaster proved that.

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NOT TRUE! NOT TRUE! NOT TRUE!

Not all sites are compatible with Firefox, not Firefox is not compatible with all sites!

To be technical, both sentence are false.

Not all sites are compatible with Firefox. They shouldn't be. They should be compatible with W3C standards. And also should Firefox be compatible with W3C standards. But the W3C standards doesn't have to be compatible with Firefox.

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Again, whose fault is that? The author is too lazy to make his site compatible with standards, that's his fault. And as AT pointed out, only about 80% of people use IE nowadays, and that number is constantly falling. 20% of internet users is no small amount.

I'm not saying it's anyone's fault but the developers, but the burden ends up being on the browser, not the developer. If it works in IE, and IE has most of the market, why would they bother programming for the rest.

Hell, according to the stats page for a site that I run, even search engine robots have a larger number of page accesses than any non-IE browser. I don't know where you're getting 20%. I myself do use Firefox but I only migrated from MYIE2 because of a bug wherein I cannot sort my favorites, otherwise I'd still use that. Bottom line is, IE works with damn near every site, and others don't. Authors' fault, browsers' problem.

edit: I give up trying to format this...just note that IE5/6 have 10 times the page requests of the nearest competitor

Browser Type	Number of requests	Number of page requests
---MSIE  10,899 	 2,616
1. MSIE/6	9,490 	 2,175
2. MSIE/5	1,409 	 441
---ia_archiver	305 	 266
---Yahoo-VerticalCrawler-FormerWebCrawler	
  235 	 235
3. Yahoo-VerticalCrawler-FormerWebCrawler/3	
  235 	 235
---Netscape (compatible)	
  368 	 86
---Netscape	334 	 71
4. Mozilla/1	226 	 36
---Googlebot	61 	 61
5. Googlebot/2	61 	 61
---libwww-perl	48 	 48

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rofl :laugh:

BTW, to maximize porn surfing potential, I suggest you all visit PornZilla and follow the tips. Don't forget to sign up for your free libpr0n registration number today! :laugh:

"zoom image in" - comedy gold!

:laugh: x100

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is there anyway in firefox to block all popups and ONLY open requested ones... like OPERA.... because is a little anoying to set all the sites I visit....

this is the only reason why i don't use firefox... so if someone helps me with this... I would try again :)

yes you can the setting for this in settings under the web features ;)

Also if a popup has been blocked you just click the little icon in the bottom left hand corner to un block it.

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