Recommended Posts

Secondly, to the Opera fans, I don't like Opera much. Firefox is a nice and speedy, small web browser, Opera has too much stuff crammed into it, like an email client, etc. It would compare better to the Mozilla suite, and both are too bloated for my liking.

I also don't like the advertising, though last time I tried (about two weeks ago) they wonderfully gave you the option of using Google text ads.

Well all that extra stuff comes in less than 4 megabytes of download, so why not just download it? To use it or not entirely remains to be your option. I use Opera, but not it's Email clients, and barely use it's chat client either, but why not just keep it if it all comes in less than 4 megs? Opera, in my opinion, is a lot more smoother and convenient to use than FireFox. Keep in mind I used FireFox for a long while and it just feels rough to use, for me atleast. Opera does have ads(obviously because it's not free), but I don't mind the unintrusive google ads it gives in exchange of the innovative features and functions along with a *highly* customizable interface.

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/162049-firefox-8/page/5/#findComment-2092672
Share on other sites

I love all browsers, but I currently use FF because I forced myself to (all web browser links point to FF). I would use opera, but I don't like the ad, and there are comparable browsers out there for free. Its still a great product. I don't like FF's 'slowness', espically on my ancient computer. I don't like IE's problems with pages and stuff. TO me, they all have bad points, but they all are very lovely :p

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/162049-firefox-8/page/5/#findComment-2092932
Share on other sites

  • 5 weeks later...
Skinning a fox really isn't that different to skinning a cat..

i'm sorry that i'm quoting something from 6 pages back, but that is one of the few most disgusting things i have ever seen in my entire life. why'd you have to post that? i feel like throwing up now. :x

good review btw :)

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/162049-firefox-8/page/5/#findComment-2319135
Share on other sites

just to let u know: (btw too lazy to write myself so i just copy/paste and why i have to argument something that is already done?? )

Anyone using Opera and discussing the shortcomings of CSS, JavaScript and XHTML implementations in various browsers would be complaining about IE, not Firefox. It's true that Opera handles some cutting-edge stuff better, but it's really of no consequence in the real world just yet - for the most part Firefox and Opera are identical where IE is different.

Opera isnt necessarily "ahead" of Mozilla, but it depends how you define "standards compliance". If you look on CSS Destroy, you'll see some CSS3 features that are implemented in Opera that are not yet in Mozilla, and equally there are probably things in Mozilla that Opera does not do correctly or at all... I think overall that Mozilla is more "compliant" and sticks to the spec more rigidly, whereas Opera features a few extras and is possibly not so strict.

Opacity is one example I can give of Opera being "ahead", since that is only recognised in Mozilla as of the nightlies (thus will be in 0.9/1.7), but is already present in Opera. Like I said though, most of these issues mean nothing yet in the real world. Debating who is better over CSS3 conformity is silly in any case.

LOL you are just begging to be flamed, you know that. When you state you dont like Opera because of it's name, you lose 99% of your credibility.

Firefox and Opera are not at all identical , perhaps only different from IE in the regard that IE is totalyl unsecure.

Then you go off on a tangent concerning which does what better, Mozilla or Opera. Personally Firefox and Opera are both better then IE hands down. But, thats alot due to the fact that MS doesnt code their own ****. They steal it. IE was coded by spyglass, not MS, thats why you see all the integrated applciations in Windows have competition that simply blows it away, in every area, from browser, to firewall, to defrag utilities and upwards.

Microsoft does not mean quality. People use IE because it comes with windows, and for the most part the average person doesn't know what makes their computer function at all. OIr people use AOL's browser simply because it comes with their software.

Personally I dont care what you call the browser, if it works it works, and I can always rename it later.

---- And d.thornton

Its not about what looks good where.. its about are we safe browsing the internet? Is our hardware our operating system vulnerable to attack by viruses, or hackers, exploits, adware, browser hijacking...

So, you see its not enough for a webpage to display "proper" but safely as well as fast, and pretty. If this were just about looks, the discussion never would have been started in the first place.

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/162049-firefox-8/page/5/#findComment-2369988
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • I like the show more options. The only problem with it is that it's not always in a consistent spot in the menu. If the copy/paste/cut, happens to show on top, then more option is the last in the menu. But if copy/paste/cut happens to show on the bottom, then more options is before the copy/paste/cut. But I do like the more options because it hides the stuff that I rarely use. But I would like to choose what it is or isn't hiding. That would make it better.
    • I wonder if "put it back the way it was for decades" ever crossed their minds? 🤣
    • Rescind the stupid "Show more options" in context menus and just give us the full menu instead of adding more steps to get to what we want. The "simpler by default" makes me think they'll go in the opposite direction. Every context menu should have a configure button so you can pick and choose what options should be shown, I know you can do that with some registry fu but that shouldn't be required.
    • This is why competition must exist. Finally, pressure is mounting on Microsoft to move in the right direction.
    • Microsoft is making Windows 11's context menus faster, simpler, and configurable by Taras Buria Five years ago, Windows 11 introduced redesigned context menus, offering users a simpler, more modern design. However, customers quickly discovered that the new menus leave a lot to be desired. Many are unhappy with performance (they are really slow), while others dislike the double-layed design, where many options are hidden behind the "Show more options" button. In addition, over the years, menus became cluttered and overloaded. While Microsoft has already fixed plenty of pain points across Windows 11, context menus remain mostly unchanged. Fortunately, Microsoft is finally listening. Marcus Ash, Design and Research Lead for Windows at Microsoft, responded to a tweet on X, confirming that the company is working on fixing Windows 11's context menus. Reworked context menus are supposed to be faster, simpler by default, and "configurable to what you use most." What the latter means is unknown, just like whether Microsoft plans to keep the classic menu alongside the modern one, but according to Marcus, the wait should finally be over soon, as he promised to "share our approach soon." Improved context menus will most likely appear first in Windows 11 preview builds in the Experimental Channel. While we wait for Microsoft to release them, you can try fixing context menus on your PC with a simple tool called Windows 11 Context Menu Manager. It lets you disable entries you do not need, not only cleaning up context menus, but also making them significantly faster. Microsoft has already improved Windows 11's Start menu and taskbar, so hopefully it will address user criticism of the context menu as well. Stay tuned for new Windows 11 preview builds, which usually arrive every Friday.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      I2D earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Carru_123 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Dr Jared Dental Studio earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      RG INVESTMENT GROUP earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Very Popular
      The Norwegian Drone Pilot earned a badge
      Very Popular
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      472
    2. 2
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      249
    3. 3
      Skyfrog
      79
    4. 4
      FloatingFatMan
      65
    5. 5
      Michael Scrip
      60
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!