Running Mac OS X on x86 PC!

[S.MULLA]

a new emulator called PearPC seems to be able to run OS X on x86 machines:

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/index.html

Check out the screenshots:

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html

source:aqua-soft.org [forum]

[ATLien_0]

this thread and pearpc development seems to have slowed way down/ have been very quiet

[Emon]

I think this thread should be split in to a group, there are so many topics in here it is hard to keep track of what is going on.

well we kinda have groups .. like my help doc thread at essential guides section.

[Fozzieb]

That's true. but people still keep asking the same questions time and time again, because they can't be bothered reading 166 pages of posts

[jedavis1]

I posted this on Neowin's thread about PearPC, but with 160+ pgs of information, it tends to get lost, so I thought I would post it here also. Sorry for those who have to read it both places! :lol:

It didn't seem like anyone has done a comprehensive comparison between the nightly builds and the SDL version, so I did some testing/benchmarking and here are the results:

My system specs:

Custom built P4 2.53 GHz

Asus P4B533 mobo

512 RAM

32MB nVidia GeForce2 MX 200

Windows XP Professional SP1

WD 80 GB HD SE with 8mb buffer

Networking: T1 with FreeProxy bound to the TAP win32 driver (I find this faster than tunneling)

PearPC Specs:

SDL.0003 with RAM set to 256MB and networking enabled. Screen set at 800x600 window

Nightly Build 6-3-04 with RAM set to 256MB and Networking enabled. Screen set at 800x600 window with 60ms redraw.

I was surprised that there really isn't much speed difference between the two. The SDL version seems faster because the video is smoother. But practically it isn't. I may or may not run some more test with the nightly build adjusting the redraw rate.

I think this is enough to give you the factors. So here is the chart!

Edited June 4, 2004 by jedavis1

[aka JAWheat411]

Okay, Beta 1 Release 2 is hot off the compiler. :cool:

View: Homepage

Download: Here

Screenshot below:

Does PearPCFront do anything related to your network? Just curious because after installing it I had to go to Network in OS X and refresh my PCI card thing. It wasn't a problem or anything. The internet worked right away. I just thought it was weird. Did this on both pc's I had it running on.

[niteowl]

I posted this on Neowin's thread about PearPC, but with 160+ pgs of information, it tends to get lost, so I thought I would post it here also. Sorry for those who have to read it both places! :lol:

It didn't seem like anyone has done a comprehensive comparison between the nightly builds and the SDL version, so I did some testing/benchmarking and here are the results:

My system specs:

Custom built P4 2.53 GHz

Asus P4B533 mobo

512 RAM

32MB nVidia GeForce2 MX 200

Windows XP Professional SP1

WD 80 GB HD SE with 8mb buffer

Networking: T1 with FreeProxy bound to the TAP win32 driver (I find this faster than tunneling)

PearPC Specs:

SDL.0003 with RAM set to 256MB and networking enabled. Screen set at 800x600 window

Nightly Build 6-3-04 with RAM set to 256MB and Networking enabled. Screen set at 800x600 window with 60ms redraw.

I was surprised that there really isn't much speed difference between the two. The SDL version seems faster because the video is smoother. But practically it isn't. I may or may not run some more test with the nightly build adjusting the redraw rate.

I think this is enough to give you the factors. So here is the chart!

Thanks.

That's a helpful chart. Benchmarking the different builds was a good idea :yes:

[I need Zoloft]

Any else think yes,we will finally get some of those non convertable icons on windows now?;)

[jdkramar]

Any else think yes,we will finally get some of those non convertable icons on windows now?;)

the icons are convertable... :rolleyes:

[I need Zoloft]

I dont mean the ones packaged in .sit files.I know how to convert those.I mean the ones like Icontainer files and the ones in .dmg format.I love how people allways assume they know what your talking about.

Edited June 4, 2004 by I need Zoloft

[Ryan Hoffman]

Does PearPCFront do anything related to your network? Just curious because after installing it I had to go to Network in OS X and refresh my PCI card thing. It wasn't a problem or anything. The internet worked right away. I just thought it was weird. Did this on both pc's I had it running on.

You probably used the default MAC address, which was different from the MAC Address that *was* in your config file.

[jdkramar]

I dont mean the ones packaged in .sit files.I know how to convert those.I mean the ones like Icontainer files and the ones in .dmg format.I love how people allways assume they know what your talking about.

how do you know I didn't know what you were talking about? I can get an icon from whatever Mac file I want and use it on a Win machine. :rolleyes:

[I need Zoloft]

how do you know I didn't know what you were talking about? I can get an icon from whatever Mac file I want and use it on a Win machine.  :rolleyes:

Meaning all you get are sit files or tell me how to convert dmg to a usable format.Also i do know you didnt know what i was talking about because of your stupid comments.

[jdkramar]

Meaning all you get are sit files or tell me how to convert dmg to a usable format.Also i do know you didnt know what i was talking about because of your stupid comments.

Why didn't you say formats instead of icons? Last time I checked icons have nothing to do with the format of a file. So really the problem is your lack of computer terminology knowledge.

[I need Zoloft]

Why didn't you say formats instead of icons? Last time I checked icons have nothing to do with the format of a file. So really the problem is your lack of computer terminology knowledge.

The icons come in the dmg file.Its a mac format.And i said i was talking about file formats in my second and third post,maybe you should learn to read.

[jdkramar]

The icons come in the dmg file.Its a mac format.And i said i was talking about file formats in my second and third post,maybe you should learn to read.

Why don't you learn to write?

Here is your post.

Any else think yes,we will finally get some of those non convertable icons on windows now?

It would have been a lot clearer if you wrote it more like this.

Is anyone else thinking that we will finally get to use some of those icons from (where ever you get them) that come in .dmg formated images?

But lets not turn this into an English lesson and get this topic locked by the Mods.

[eaglebtc]

Why doesn't PearGUI work for me? When I click "Run PearPC" the dos box appears, flashes "usage: ppc configfie" and then quits.

PearGUI.exe is in the same folder as my PearPC installation, and it is pointing to the correct IMG and ISO files. Is PearGUI expecting my config file to be a certain name? Either that, or it's not passing its own files correctly to the command interpreter.

And another thing...how does it enable right-click functionality in pearPC?

[I need Zoloft]

Why don't you learn to write?

Here is your post.

It would have been a lot clearer if you wrote it more like this.

Is anyone else thinking that we will finally get to use some of those icons from (where ever you get them) that come in .dmg formated images?

But lets not turn this into an English lesson and get this topic locked by the Mods.

You should have picked up what i said on my second and third post.Nonetheless you should have asked what i meant before you tryed to show off on this board.Your the only one turning this into a english lesson.

[jdkramar]

You should have picked up what i said on my second and third post.Nonetheless you should have asked what i meant before you tryed to show off on this board.Your the only one turning this into a english lesson.

If you want me to, I can pick at your other posts. But instead how about I say I should have asked you to clarify what you meant. And you admit that your post was clear as mud.

[xplatinum]

/me votes for you two to take the argueing in PMs.

[I need Zoloft]

So you go off,when you should have ask me about my post and then because you didnt understand the post in the first place im the jerk.That tells me thiers no need to talk any longer.You just want to fight about this.Im sorry if my post wasent clear enuff for you.Next time ask,dont flame.

Edited June 4, 2004 by I need Zoloft

[jedavis1]

Why doesn't PearGUI work for me? When I click "Run PearPC" the dos box appears, flashes "usage: ppc configfie" and then quits.

PearGUI.exe is in the same folder as my PearPC installation, and it is pointing to the correct IMG and ISO files. Is PearGUI expecting my config file to be a certain name? Either that, or it's not passing its own files correctly to the command interpreter.

And another thing...how does it enable right-click functionality in pearPC?

Make sure that you save the config file. Also, make sure that you don't have a setting checked that isn't supported by your version of PPC (Right click option isn't enabled on the current standard versions, so don't check that) and things like that. PearGUI is my favorite front end right now. Simple and effective!

[JeremyWeisser]

Here is a fleeting thought that I will throw out to you all.

Can you imagine how slow Windows XP would be running inside Virtual PC for Mac?

[Steve]

Here is a fleeting thought that I will throw out to you all.

Can you imagine how slow Windows XP would be running inside Virtual PC for Mac?

Virtual PC running Windows XP wouldn't be as slow as running Mac OS X on PearPC IMO...

[syphern]

LOL @ the two guys who are fighting.

[Ryan Hoffman]

Guys, lets please try to stay on topic here. This is a PearPC thread; not a lets talk about converting icons thread or lets talk about other virtual machine applications thread!

Keep the questions on topic, and this 100+ page thread will contain useful information; wander off, and it will be ignored and disreguarded.