Verbose. Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 XP... in fact, for the hardcore gamer, there are specific services that will most benefit performance on gaming systems. Routing and Remote Access Alerter Application Layer Gateway Service Application Management Background Intelligent Transfer Service ClipBook COM+ System Application Distributed Link Tracking Client Distributed Transaction Coordinator Help and Support IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service IPSEC Services Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service MS Software Shadow Copy Provider Net Logon NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing Network DDE Network DDE DSDM Network Location Awareness (NLA) NT LM Security Support Provider Performance Logs and Alerts Portable Media Serial Number QoS RSVP Remote Desktop Help Session Manager Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator Remote Registry Removable Storage Server Smart Card Smart Card Helper SSDP Discovery Service System Restore Service Telnet Themes Uninterruptible Power Supply Universal Plug and Play Device Host Volume Shadow Copy Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) Windows Installer Windows Management Instrumentation Driver Extensions Wireless Zero Configuration WMI Performance Adapter Fast User Switching Compatibility Protected Storage Windows Time TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Task Scheduler Secondary Logon Print Spooler Indexing Service Error Reporting Service Computer Browser Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted July 5, 2004 Author Share Posted July 5, 2004 i would go with a custom made windows xp embedded gaming edition made by me, increases performace in games by at least 25-150% depending on which game your running, some quick numbers on my pc in 3dmark03 i got a good 3383 on normal clean xp, and on clean formated installed windows xp embedded gaming edition (custom made by me for my system) i got 4628, i donno what % that is, but thats an amazing improvement thats what i wanted,is there anyway i could get a copy,or make my own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnmnky Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 Set up a hardware profile to test whether you find problems disabling the services or not. You don't want to fiddle with your default settings until you've tested them in a "test" hardware profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamend Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 1. windows 98 takes less than 10 seconds to boot2. all the new viruses don't work with win98 (most of them) 3. takes less than 300mb in your hard disk :yes: 4. It crashes every 4 or 5 mouse clicks 5. It's horribly inefficient 6. It may have a lower footprint, but it can't take advantage of system resources the way 2k/XP can By the way, the Tom's Hardware Guide article is http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20020930/index.html. The benchmarks showed that there was generally a 1 to 2% variation between OSs and each tested game seemed to have a different favourite OS. Conclusion The tests show that there's no reason today to use Windows 98/ME in a new system. In many of the benchmarks, XP and 2000 are ahead - albeit only by a small margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted July 5, 2004 Author Share Posted July 5, 2004 meh,i still see a big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 XP Pro then strip it of all the un-nessesary services and visuals you dont need on a gaming rig :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Moved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelsinho Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 ONLY the better: Windows XP PRO (witth tweaks) and FINISH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Windows 98 SE is a fantastic OS for gaming. Windows 2000 and XP are not too bad either. Best solution may be to dual boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelsinho Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Yeah! I agreed, but and all news games build for Windows XP?, then your alternative is convenient dual boot as: old games in partition with Windows 98SE, new games of course in other partition with Windows XP PRO right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 ok,i got 3 partitions now,xp home,win 2000,SuSE 9.1,thnx for all the help guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelsinho Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 good luck guy I am happy for your success in gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Yeah! I agreed, but and all news games build for Windows XP?, then your alternative is convenient dual boot as: old games in partition with Windows 98SE, new games of course in other partition with Windows XP PRO right. Sounds about right. Win 98 SE or ME for older games and Windows XP (Home or Pro) for newer games. I can go for that. :) I like PC Gaming. UT2004 r0x0rZ! :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted July 7, 2004 MVC Share Posted July 7, 2004 From my experence, Windows 2000 runs games far slower than Windows XP, so I suggest Windows XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 From my experence, Windows 2000 runs games far slower than Windows XP, so I suggest Windows XP. Exact oposite from me, unless your video card drivers don't like Win2k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gauge Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 VERY IMPORTANT: Use WindowsXP but do NOT use XPLite. I've tried and tested this to the limits and it breaks a lot of things that may well be important at some point. There is an alternative called nLite. Use this instead. XPLite works by taking a full installation of XP and ripping out the parts you don't want. This process is back to front, in my opinion, and is known to cause problems with the remaining components. As an example, removing the Windows Address Book makes it impossible to create/change any user accounts. nLite works the CORRECT way. It takes your XP installation disk, deletes all the components you don't want, removes them from the install scripts and then re-creates a new installation ISO. Not only does it remove the components correctly, it slims down your XP install to sizes I never thought possible. I tried it recently and have a fresh installation of XP Pro with a 330MB windows folder. If you do this and then disable your redundant services (those that nLite hasn't already removed) using BlackViper's guide, you will have a seriously slim and speedy installation of XP. I repeat: use nLite, NOT XPLite. You can find it here and I thoroughly recommend it: http://nuhi.<< spam >>/ (I don't know why the link is marked spam - it's nuhi dot msfn dot org . Gauge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Theory Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 If you are going to use Win 98 DONT use SE there is a gaming crash flaw in it so use first edition 98 and for XP use Home Edition not Pro (or Win 2k) because NT based OS's suck for gaming and Home is 9x based Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelsinho Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 NO I disagree, why Windows 98 first edition have several bugs on build is confirmed by Microsoft only verify in Microsoft knowledge base or TechNet, then need uses the Windows98 SE is the logical thing after user updating all in Windows Update website of course; You need remember what Windoes 98 need some tweaks for work better for example: enlarge Files and Buffers on sub-system for better memory management and more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmorya Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Choose Windows 2000 Professional. Its a smarter choice because: 1. Its a more stable version of Windows becasue its the previous NT based OS. More bugs have been fixed due to Service Packs. 2. Its more secure than Windows XP in my opinion. 3. It runs games/multimedia tasks faster than XP does! fact! 4. Its not as bloated as XP is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I've had excellent luck with Win 98 SE, especially with legacy games. Windows XP is great for newer games. Just that Simple. Try the dual boot yourself and see how it works for you. That is best, usually. (Y) Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vannos Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 If you are going to use Win 98 DONT use SE there is a gaming crash flaw in it so use first edition 98 and for XP use Home Edition not Pro (or Win 2k) because NT based OS's suck for gaming and Home is 9x based What??? Ok, two things, i've played lots and lots of games on win98SE, there is no 'gaming crash flaw'... More importatly, both XP home and pro are based on NT, NOT 9x... the final last OS to use 9x was WindowsME. NT OSs suck for gaming? Not likely. XBOX runs a striped down NT kernel, XP, the most popular gaming OS runs a NT kernel... Man, im wondering if your post was just fishing for replys and quotes, because you didnt make a single correct point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanekiwi Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 ive used everything from 95 upto xp by now and i must say xp is doing the best job by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiZzArD Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Windows 98 is CRAP for gaming. Nvidia and ATi no longer produce drivers for it, what good is an OS for gaming without up-to-date drivers? Also, newer games require Windows 2000 or XP, look at Thief: Deadly Shadows as a good example. Use 2K Pro or XP, both work great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Player Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 OSX! ...Just kidding :D...I'd say windows XP unless you are a linux god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 i use linux too,lol,SuSE 9.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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